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thishereboi -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/8/2015 5:16:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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Banning them is going a bit far, I say we microchip them, with one that has a gps tracker on it, linked to a drone with a hell fire missile.

That way, if they get to close to a school, mall, 7/11, movie theater, we can just send a hell fire on their ass...

We can do the same with people on the no fly list.

They go to buy gasoline, diesel, yard chemicals, etc, we can just blast them into hamburger and be done with it.


Or,

People like Trump and Feinstein can get their heads out of their asses and actually use their brains for something more than a laxative.

Personally, I think that everyone who does not like 80's rock needs to have a collar on them that gives them a shock everytime they cant answer who the lead singer of the silver bullet band was.


Or if we are going to ban Muslims from coming into the country, we should exile the idiots who cancelled "Firefly."



Bob Seger, there now that I am no longer in danger of electrocution I'll put my 2 cents worth on good old Trump. Yes he does seem to spend most of his time with his head up his ass, but I really doubt he has any chance of the nomination so I am not worried. And it is fun to watch some on the left foam at the mouth every time he talks so there is some entertainment value in him. But that's about it.



But you said nothing in defense of firefly!

Im a moderate and I foam at the mouth at some of the crap he spews.




But I've never watched firefly. ::she says as she ducks and runs out of the room::




thishereboi -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/8/2015 5:26:32 PM)


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Nothing that Republicans on here havent already lapped up though. Some of them seem dumb enough to think its true.


It's not really surprising though, is it? The demographic that Trump appeals to is so wildly stupid that they'll believe anything he says. I mean, Christ, most of them couldn't even pick out the UK on a map, much less London.

Trump may or may not know something about London and therefore may or may not know that there's no area in it that's 'taken over by Muslim radicals' or even taken over by Muslim moderates ... but his supporters don't. I don't know which is worse, really, a Trump who knows that he's talking out of his arse but knows what his terminally thick supporters want to hear - or a Trump who is actually ignorant enough to believe what he says. Either way, I don't need any more proof now that the man is bloody menace.


It's surprising to me, of course I haven't actually met anyone who is supporting him so maybe it's the area I live in. But PS was talking about repubs on here and my memory is getting bad, so maybe you can help me out since you seem to have noticed it too. Which republicans on here are backing the jackass?




PeonForHer -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/8/2015 5:48:12 PM)

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Which republicans on here are backing the jackass?


I don't know and don't much care. I do know, though, that he's getting a lot of support in the country - and that's the important thing.




PeonForHer -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/8/2015 5:59:52 PM)

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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries




bounty44 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 7:03:25 AM)

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Nothing that Republicans on here havent already lapped up though. Some of them seem dumb enough to think its true.


It's not really surprising though, is it? The demographic that Trump appeals to is so wildly stupid that they'll believe anything he says. I mean, Christ, most of them couldn't even pick out the UK on a map, much less London.

Trump may or may not know something about London and therefore may or may not know that there's no area in it that's 'taken over by Muslim radicals' or even taken over by Muslim moderates ... but his supporters don't. I don't know which is worse, really, a Trump who knows that he's talking out of his arse but knows what his terminally thick supporters want to hear - or a Trump who is actually ignorant enough to believe what he says. Either way, I don't need any more proof now that the man is bloody menace.


peon you can say stuff like that, and then there is stuff like this:

"‘Trump is right!’ Police say parts of Britain ARE no-go areas due to ISIS radicalization"

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BRITISH police officers have sensationally backed Donald Trump’s controversial claim that parts of the country are no-go areas because of growing Islamist extremism.

Serving officers in terrorist hotspots including London and Birmingham said that forces are becoming increasingly nervy over the rising threat of Islamic State (ISIS) inspired attacks, with some telling staff not to wear their uniforms in their OWN patrol cars.

One officer in London said the firebrand presidential hopeful was “pointing out something plainly obvious” whilst another in Lancashire said the police have to ask local Muslim leaders for PERMISSION before sending patrols into their communities...

One serving officer in west London said: “Islamification has and is occurring. You have to have extra vigilance in certain parts when you are working."

Speaking to Breitbart he added: “When I was a teenage lad in Burnley there were no go white areas. This is the case still nationally, including London where you have to have extra vigilance in certain parts when you are working.”

And a policeman posted in Yorkshire said police top brass were so afraid of potential terrorist attacks he had been ordered not to wear police uniform in his own patrol car.

The anonymous officer wrote on the online forum Police.Community: “I’m not allowed to travel in half blues to work anymore IN MY OWN CAR as we're ’All at risk of attack’ - yet as soon as someone points out the obvious it's 'divisive.'"

He added: “In this instance he (Trump) isn't wrong. Our political leaders are best either ill-informed or simply being disingenuous...

Meanwhile in an interview last year Tom Winsor, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary, warned that there are “cities in the Midlands where the police never go” because local communities refuse to engage with law enforcement.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/Donald-Trump-Muslims-speech-British-police-ISIS-radicalisation-London

its not a comprehensive refutation of what you wrote, but its something...






Staleek -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 7:12:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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Nothing that Republicans on here havent already lapped up though. Some of them seem dumb enough to think its true.


It's not really surprising though, is it? The demographic that Trump appeals to is so wildly stupid that they'll believe anything he says. I mean, Christ, most of them couldn't even pick out the UK on a map, much less London.

Trump may or may not know something about London and therefore may or may not know that there's no area in it that's 'taken over by Muslim radicals' or even taken over by Muslim moderates ... but his supporters don't. I don't know which is worse, really, a Trump who knows that he's talking out of his arse but knows what his terminally thick supporters want to hear - or a Trump who is actually ignorant enough to believe what he says. Either way, I don't need any more proof now that the man is bloody menace.


peon you can say stuff like that, and then there is stuff like this:

"‘Trump is right!’ Police say parts of Britain ARE no-go areas due to ISIS radicalization"

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BRITISH police officers have sensationally backed Donald Trump’s controversial claim that parts of the country are no-go areas because of growing Islamist extremism.

Serving officers in terrorist hotspots including London and Birmingham said that forces are becoming increasingly nervy over the rising threat of Islamic State (ISIS) inspired attacks, with some telling staff not to wear their uniforms in their OWN patrol cars.

One officer in London said the firebrand presidential hopeful was “pointing out something plainly obvious” whilst another in Lancashire said the police have to ask local Muslim leaders for PERMISSION before sending patrols into their communities...

One serving officer in west London said: “Islamification has and is occurring. You have to have extra vigilance in certain parts when you are working."

Speaking to Breitbart he added: “When I was a teenage lad in Burnley there were no go white areas. This is the case still nationally, including London where you have to have extra vigilance in certain parts when you are working.”

And a policeman posted in Yorkshire said police top brass were so afraid of potential terrorist attacks he had been ordered not to wear police uniform in his own patrol car.

The anonymous officer wrote on the online forum Police.Community: “I’m not allowed to travel in half blues to work anymore IN MY OWN CAR as we're ’All at risk of attack’ - yet as soon as someone points out the obvious it's 'divisive.'"

He added: “In this instance he (Trump) isn't wrong. Our political leaders are best either ill-informed or simply being disingenuous...

Meanwhile in an interview last year Tom Winsor, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary, warned that there are “cities in the Midlands where the police never go” because local communities refuse to engage with law enforcement.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/Donald-Trump-Muslims-speech-British-police-ISIS-radicalisation-London

its not a comprehensive refutation of what you wrote, but its something...





You quoted the Daily Fucking Express as a source.

The Daily Express. This is what you quoted, as a source of... for want of a better word... "information".

For those wondering, this is the man who owns the Daily Express talking about ethical standards in the media at the Leveson inquiry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htyb6W6H6IY

The publication is derided as a joke here in the UK, with it mainly being bought for the pretty comprehensive racing pages at the back. It is our equivalent of Fox News.




Greta75 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 7:24:55 AM)


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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries

Him having businesses in Islamic countries, just prove to me that his not against Muslims as a whole. But was just suggesting a practical solution for US Muslim terrorist problems.




tj444 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 8:57:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries

Him having businesses in Islamic countries, just prove to me that his not against Muslims as a whole. But was just suggesting a practical solution for US Muslim terrorist problems.

oh, he is not against Muslims that arent in the US, of course not!.. (duh) He's a money slut and will sell to anyone if they have the cash... He still doesnt want them in his country...




Politesub53 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 4:59:22 PM)

There is a petition on a Government web site asking for Trump to be banned from entering hte UK. It has gained enough signatures to ensure it will be debated by MP`s.

Trump has also been stripped of his post of business ambassador for Scotland among other things.

He is divisive and hardly a politician by any standards, an opportunist is more exact.

As TJ has pointed out, he wishes to ban Muslims from the US but still wished to do business with them.

FFS even the Israelis dont want him to go visit.

Staleek is also spot on about our tabloid press, sensationalist reporting from an "Unnamed" source...... Thats press code for bullshit.




PeonForHer -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 5:12:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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Nothing that Republicans on here havent already lapped up though. Some of them seem dumb enough to think its true.


It's not really surprising though, is it? The demographic that Trump appeals to is so wildly stupid that they'll believe anything he says. I mean, Christ, most of them couldn't even pick out the UK on a map, much less London.

Trump may or may not know something about London and therefore may or may not know that there's no area in it that's 'taken over by Muslim radicals' or even taken over by Muslim moderates ... but his supporters don't. I don't know which is worse, really, a Trump who knows that he's talking out of his arse but knows what his terminally thick supporters want to hear - or a Trump who is actually ignorant enough to believe what he says. Either way, I don't need any more proof now that the man is bloody menace.


It's surprising to me, of course I haven't actually met anyone who is supporting him so maybe it's the area I live in. But PS was talking about repubs on here and my memory is getting bad, so maybe you can help me out since you seem to have noticed it too. Which republicans on here are backing the jackass?


Read my words again, think again about your question and in general please try not to be such a cretin, thb.




ifmaz -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 7:37:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries


A coworker suggested Trump is a democratic party plant to make Clinton look good.




Tkman117 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/10/2015 7:53:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries


A coworker suggested Trump is a democratic party plant to make Clinton look good.



That would make sense if he wasn't the most popular choice on the campaign trail. If anything it just points out how fucking crazy a good portion of the repubs truly are to the rest of American voters. If they were trying to slander the Republican Party and prop up the Dems, then why would they have someone running for the republicans that happen to appeal to the hateful and fearful nature of the republicans?




thishereboi -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 3:17:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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*Sigh*. More evidence of just what a loathsome old two-faced turd he is. A report on Trump's extensive business-interests in mainly Muslim countries ....

http://www.channel4.com/news/donald-trumps-business-empire-in-muslim-majority-countries

Him having businesses in Islamic countries, just prove to me that his not against Muslims as a whole. But was just suggesting a practical solution for US Muslim terrorist problems.


I think the only thing that proves is he saw a good business opportunity and took it. I doubt liking someone is a real big concern to the guy. I think he would deal with satan if he thought he could make a buck. But then again I freely admit I have never liked him so maybe I'm wrong.




thishereboi -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 3:20:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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Nothing that Republicans on here havent already lapped up though. Some of them seem dumb enough to think its true.


It's not really surprising though, is it? The demographic that Trump appeals to is so wildly stupid that they'll believe anything he says. I mean, Christ, most of them couldn't even pick out the UK on a map, much less London.

Trump may or may not know something about London and therefore may or may not know that there's no area in it that's 'taken over by Muslim radicals' or even taken over by Muslim moderates ... but his supporters don't. I don't know which is worse, really, a Trump who knows that he's talking out of his arse but knows what his terminally thick supporters want to hear - or a Trump who is actually ignorant enough to believe what he says. Either way, I don't need any more proof now that the man is bloody menace.


It's surprising to me, of course I haven't actually met anyone who is supporting him so maybe it's the area I live in. But PS was talking about repubs on here and my memory is getting bad, so maybe you can help me out since you seem to have noticed it too. Which republicans on here are backing the jackass?


Read my words again, think again about your question and in general please try not to be such a cretin, thb.



Why bother? You already admitted you agreed to something about which you claimed "I don't know and don't much care." so why are we even discussing it.




bounty44 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 4:10:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

You quoted the Daily Fucking Express as a source.

The Daily Express. This is what you quoted, as a source of... for want of a better word... "information".

For those wondering, this is the man who owns the Daily Express talking about ethical standards in the media at the Leveson inquiry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htyb6W6H6IY

The publication is derided as a joke here in the UK, with it mainly being bought for the pretty comprehensive racing pages at the back. It is our equivalent of Fox News.


i figured there'd be some brit attempting this, and while I can confess I don't know the quality of uk sources, when you say you liken it to fox news, what that does tell me is, you simply don't like the position the paper takes. or at the very least, you don't really know anything about fox.

besmirching sources doesn't really work, especially when you don't actually deal with the content, or the material in the piece. you'll notice that the author created his by material found on a police forum (though that is a little problematic for me) and breitbart.

are we supposed to think therefore, in accordance with your dislike/disrespect of the paper, that the author completely fabricated the information?

or the more likely scenario---they are saying things contrary to your ideology.





Lucylastic -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 4:49:16 AM)

Bounty.....When you can post non biased sites in your claims and rants, you might get taken seriously.
Its already been proven to be bullshit when fox claimed it.
And in another recent thread.
Your claims of bias are farcial.


FR
Some brits showing their respect for the leading man for the race to the presidency.
This is trump covering for the one who will come after him with ugly proposals and policies that make trump look only slightly less nutty.
But...at least its generating mods and dems to notice the ugliness from him and his followers.
Id cheer if he did something about the reality of gun deaths happening everyday, not just ones you can blame on anything(blacks, mexicans, immigrants, muslims, syrians, etc etc etc) but your own countries shitty record of white terrorism.

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Real0ne -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 8:30:47 AM)


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FFS even the Israelis dont want him to go visit.




and thats supposed to be undesirable in some way? [8|]




Tkman117 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 8:58:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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FFS even the Israelis dont want him to go visit.




and thats supposed to be undesirable in some way? [8|]


Just ironic that a country that is essentially wiping out Palestinian culture is also in opposition to the bigotry of Trump.




thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 10:00:25 AM)

its not a comprehensive refutation of what you wrote, but its something...


That "something" is typically called bullshit.




Kirata -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/11/2015 10:19:25 AM)


~ FR ~

With the U.S. and other countries on high alert for ISIS attacks, American authorities are warning the terror group’s followers may have infiltrated American borders with authentic-looking passports ISIS has printed itself with its own machines, according to an intelligence report obtained by ABC News. “Since more than 17 months [have] passed since Raqqa and Deir ez-Zour fell to ISIS, it is possible that individuals from Syria with passports ‘issued’ in these ISIS controlled cities or who had passport blanks, may have traveled to the U.S.,” the report says...

“The intelligence community is concerned that they [ISIS] have the ability, the capability to manufacture fraudulent passports, which is a concern in any setting,” Comey said. Former Department of Homeland Security intelligence official and ABC News consultant John Cohen said, “If ISIS has been able to acquire legitimate passports or machines that create legitimate passports, this would represent a major security risk in the United States.”

Fake Syrian passports have already been discovered in Europe, most notably two used by suicide bombers in the horrific terrorist attack on Paris last month. The two men are believed to have slipped into Europe with a flood of Syrian refugees fleeing the violence in their homeland. According to the source that provided the passport information to homeland security officials, Syria is awash in fake documents.
~ABC News

K.




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