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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 1:50:05 PM

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Okay Lady, I have a more important question myself. Just do what I am doing and give her space for now...right?

I am going to do that anyway, but I am resisting the urge to reach out. I mean I could call her, I am not going to but I could.

I myself am giving her a couple days to cool down, and hopefully she will want to talk to me. And if I don't hear from her, that is an answer in itself..and I'll quickly move along. But, I like the girl, what can I say.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 1:53:11 PM

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Okay Lady, I have a more important question myself. Just do what I am doing and give her space for now...right?

Yes. That's called being a man instead of an asshat.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 1:55:48 PM

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I know, and I have done to her exactly what has been done to me...and I know how much of a turn off it is. Hard to back away from something you want.

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Okay Lady, I have a more important question myself. Just do what I am doing and give her space for now...right?

Yes. That's called being a man instead of an asshat.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 1:56:09 PM

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What is it that you want out of a kink relationship?

You mentioned before:

"My desires are to have a woman that would f--k me anytime and anyplace. And I come up with the craziest idea's. Seemingly out of no-where. And appreciate the desire I have for her, like all the time...even when asleep, and appreciate the provider I am .And I have had that before, so I know exactly what its like."

Why did that previous relationship end up going wrong? And how long did it last?

When it comes to kinky women, LadyPact has already explained the difference between a submissive and a bottom.

Based on what you said, bottom isn't going to be the woman you're looking for, because bottoms don't really want to obey outside of "play time". So a bottom might agree to fuck you whenever you want during playtime, but they're not going to be okay with fucking you whenever you want, just because you want to.

Submissive women (or slaves) want to obey all the time, even outside of playtime. So a submissive/slave will fuck you whenever you want... however, no woman is going to want to be in a relationship with you just to get the privileged of fucking you whenever you want. She's going to want something in exchange.
In the case of a submissive/slave, that thing she wants in exchanges is going to be dominance and leadership. She's going to want you to dominate her on more than merely telling her when you want to fuck her. She's going to want to you lead her, and guide her, and dominate her in all sorts of ways that are non-sexual. She's going to want you to be in charge all the time, even on stuff that's not remotely about sex. If she's a masochist too, she's also going to want you to hurt her, while you're dominating her.

If you don't want to provide her with dominance and leadership outside of telling her when to fuck you, and if all you're really looking for is sex-on-demand, you're better off with a gold digger than a submissive/slave, because all a gold digger wants in exchange for sex-on-demand is for you to provide for her, and she's not going to expect you to dominate her in other ways as well.
Submissive women are going to come with a long laundry list of things they want you to do, besides telling them when to fuck and providing for them.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:15:37 PM

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@ Ullishtar) Last relationship as in seriousness? like committed? That would have been a year ago. Beautiful woman, got along great with her. But, she had no sexual desires. Got embarrassed when I pulled out my *** She would rather feed stray cats and garden. I had to end that. last committed one before that. About another year. met a woman that worked in a bank, let her notes (indiscriminately) over the course of a year. left her a Christmas card (on her desk) with contact info, we met and went from there. I quickly realized I had more fun pleasing myself and fantasizing about her than when I actually got her. That is not the main reason for ending it, but a big one. Before that? ugggg, about 2 years and that would be when all the fukken misery started. The end of my marriage and start of the separation and ultimate divorce. We had a great marriage in many ways, fantastic woman. I met her on POF, she was in Law School, we met and within 3 weeks she dropped out of law school and moved in with me. Within 6 weeks we were married, just woke up and went to the courthouse and got married. It took me 2-3 years to get over her. I never knew what I had until it was gone, that saying is so true. She was perfect for me in everyway as far as sex, never a problem. We were married 5 years. back further? To Jen, the crazy bipolar I was with for 6 years. great sex but difficult to live with. Before her, my daughters mother (I wont even go there) she tried to dom me, that didn't work or last, and the most miserable I have ever been in my life. Trying to stay for my kids. Four years of hell, even rented my house out and moved to that b***hes state. She was also mean to my son who just lost his mom. If I go back a little further, that would be my sons mom, who I was with for 10 years. until she died from leukemia...of course I just said the "committed" ones. I am starting to feel like I am on Dr Phil here.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:31:03 PM

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@ Ullishtar) Last relationship as in seriousness?

I didn't ask about your last relationship.

You said: ""My desires are to have a woman that would f--k me anytime and anyplace. And I come up with the craziest idea's. Seemingly out of no-where. And appreciate the desire I have for her, like all the time...even when asleep, and appreciate the provider I am .And I have had that before, so I know exactly what its like."

If you have had it before, and know exactly what it looks like, what are the reasons that specific relationship ended, and how long did it last?
Answering those questions will allow us to give you better advice on how to find such a relationship again.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:35:16 PM

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And if you want to know what happened to that great marriage, and it was in so many way. The memories I sometimes still think about, sex everywhere from the Top of a dam, the Boardwalk in Atlantic City, railroad track somewhere in Tenn (I pulled over and didn't know where we were) Dugout at a baseball field, the bathroom in the Harley Dealership, the horse stall at the county fair..i could go on and on. She hardly refused me, I never just "took it" with her or any other woman. Funny that I always ordered her food, we never even fought. Amazing cook, artist, intelligence, beauty. I truly had it all and I know it. What f--d it up? Me, surpised? I am laughing here. Because of an injury due to a motorcycle accident I got hooked on pain pills. Was driving every month from West va to Philly to see my doctors. she warned me over and over to stop. the pills were more important, besides, I never thought she would leave. We got into a fight, she left. I seen the seriousness, and got help. Didn't save the marriage but it saved me. Never looked back as far as that goes. The only thing positive thing I can take away from losing the woman that I love/loved.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:36:21 PM

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"Why did that previous relationship end up going wrong? And how long did it last?" didn't I read this from you?

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@ Ullishtar) Last relationship as in seriousness?

I didn't ask about your last relationship.

You said: ""My desires are to have a woman that would f--k me anytime and anyplace. And I come up with the craziest idea's. Seemingly out of no-where. And appreciate the desire I have for her, like all the time...even when asleep, and appreciate the provider I am .And I have had that before, so I know exactly what its like."

If you have had it before, and know exactly what it looks like, what are the reasons that specific relationship ended, and how long did it last?
Answering those questions will allow us to give you better advice on how to find such a relationship again.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:37:41 PM

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You didn't ask, but you did, and you are asking again...lol. Just saying, and laughing.

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@ Ullishtar) Last relationship as in seriousness?

I didn't ask about your last relationship.

You said: ""My desires are to have a woman that would f--k me anytime and anyplace. And I come up with the craziest idea's. Seemingly out of no-where. And appreciate the desire I have for her, like all the time...even when asleep, and appreciate the provider I am .And I have had that before, so I know exactly what its like."

If you have had it before, and know exactly what it looks like, what are the reasons that specific relationship ended, and how long did it last?
Answering those questions will allow us to give you better advice on how to find such a relationship again.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:44:37 PM

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You know what is ironic about this, we were into an argument and I asked her "what do you do for me or around here" I took care of almost everything. I even did most of the cooking, and it irritated me at times. I have realized since, she cooked everytime I asked her too. She replied, and I will never forget it "I give you companionship" ..well, that didn't mean shit to me at the time. I have always been in long term relationships. All I can say is this, five years later I get it, loud and clear.

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And if you want to know what happened to that great marriage, and it was in so many way. The memories I sometimes still think about, sex everywhere from the Top of a dam, the Boardwalk in Atlantic City, railroad track somewhere in Tenn (I pulled over and didn't know where we were) Dugout at a baseball field, the bathroom in the Harley Dealership, the horse stall at the county fair..i could go on and on. She hardly refused me, I never just "took it" with her or any other woman. Funny that I always ordered her food, we never even fought. Amazing cook, artist, intelligence, beauty. I truly had it all and I know it. What f--d it up? Me, surpised? I am laughing here. Because of an injury due to a motorcycle accident I got hooked on pain pills. Was driving every month from West va to Philly to see my doctors. she warned me over and over to stop. the pills were more important, besides, I never thought she would leave. We got into a fight, she left. I seen the seriousness, and got help. Didn't save the marriage but it saved me. Never looked back as far as that goes. The only thing positive thing I can take away from losing the woman that I love/loved.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 2:54:35 PM

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I am just another fish, in a sea of fishes, and sometimes the minnow turns out to be the shark. It just needs a little direction.

I understand this is a lot about "control" and regardless I am controlling what I say..as accurate as it is. I am making the point that I am doing so, strictly because I want to.

And Karma is indeed a bi**h. The girl that wants to come over just sent me a text (after I said I didn't really feel like having company) and she knows about "the Girl" she said, exact quote...." How tables have turned sorry your sad been there" the girl fell in love after a night of sex. She also just said "I could cheer you up" she is prolly a sub too. I kept asking her to not call me "sir" the few times we got together. I sure owned it like a master, some of you would be proud.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:01:35 PM

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Back to your original posting about the woman who left the jewelry.
It occurs to me after reading this thread, that you have had women pretty much easily all your life. Could it possibly be you obsess over this woman because she isn't pursuing you like your A God, and you feel rejected, and that's the attraction?
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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:04:20 PM

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I have already given this extreme thought. and I am unsure myself.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:08:03 PM

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"Could it possibly be you obsess over this woman because she isn't pursuing you like your A God, and you feel rejected"

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I have already given this extreme thought. and I am unsure myself. Messed up isn't it, that I wouldn't even be sure and I am me. I have been rejected before, I say fuck it and move on. I'm not even sure there was any rejection here, just the one I created in my head when I was told "after last night I feel comfortable enough with you to tell you if I didn't think it would work or we aren't a match, that's not it" I didn't hear that, not at all..I heard something else. And please, I already know I was an asshole. lets not go there again. Also, she just brought in her luggage from the car about 20 minutes earlier. If you spent a night with a guy and hated it, wouldn't you get the fuk out first thing in the morning. Or, do you stay, eat breakfast, play with the dog, bring your luggage in. Just maybe she was telling me the truth and because I found it hard to believe (my heater did break 3 times in 10 years) I was an ass. And now I might never know and that is f--d up. I'm not sure she was for me, I had fun with her and I was actually attracted to her (as compared to just being attracted to a pic) I might never know, and that's my fault. I realize its all my fault.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:11:33 PM

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You didn't ask, but you did, and you are asking again...lol. Just saying, and laughing.

I say I didn't ask about your LAST relationship.
And I certainly didn't ask about a list of ALL of your relationships.

I ask you about the SPECIFIC relationship you mentioned where you already had everything you want, and so you know what it looks like.

But you don't want to answer questions, and instead twist people's words around?

Suit yourself...

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:16:54 PM

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Seriously, I am not even going to get started on you. Not answer questions? I am going to have to take on a full time staff soon. Twisting words? I can only laugh at that. If you want to play, we can do that. But, let me get my Doberman in and a cup of coffee.

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You didn't ask, but you did, and you are asking again...lol. Just saying, and laughing.

I say I didn't ask about your LAST relationship.
And I certainly didn't ask about a list of ALL of your relationships.

I ask you about the SPECIFIC relationship you mentioned where you already had everything you want, and so you know what it looks like.

But you don't want to answer questions, and instead twist people's words around?

Suit yourself...

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:22:22 PM

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I bet you read through that list anyway. You asked me questons (pretty much from the start) that made me know you haven't read through the posts. don't go hopping around trying to give Master advice on all the threads when you hardly read to gather information on this one. And, if you don't have time to read through it, bro, save your questions and advice. I certainly am not retyping it.

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You didn't ask, but you did, and you are asking again...lol. Just saying, and laughing.

I say I didn't ask about your LAST relationship.
And I certainly didn't ask about a list of ALL of your relationships.

I ask you about the SPECIFIC relationship you mentioned where you already had everything you want, and so you know what it looks like.

But you don't want to answer questions, and instead twist people's words around?

Suit yourself...

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:27:13 PM

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And if you want to get technical, if you actually read wrote I wrote about "the last relationship" and absorbed it you will see it only lasted a couple months. if you are actually trying to gain information to give me good Master advice you will see that I had to go back to my Marriage to use an example of significant time together, and at that point why not go back one more to my sons mother.

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You didn't ask, but you did, and you are asking again...lol. Just saying, and laughing.

I say I didn't ask about your LAST relationship.
And I certainly didn't ask about a list of ALL of your relationships.

I ask you about the SPECIFIC relationship you mentioned where you already had everything you want, and so you know what it looks like.

But you don't want to answer questions, and instead twist people's words around?

Suit yourself...

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:46:40 PM

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It probably doesn't even matter, I get it LadyP. This girl probably wants more in the form of pain than I would feel comfortable giving. I say that and I quickly think, I have always been into pleasing my woman...lol

My real question would be why is she on a dating site like POF. You know that is vanilla, where I found her...wtf.

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RE: a question.. - 2/9/2016 3:52:41 PM

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I have not read the whole thread.

Unless it is strictly role-playing, how can you be a master to someone you have never met?
How can she be a slave to someone she has never met?

I know it is done, but do you know if you can be a master to a slave you do not know?

I have been Owned since 2009.
I am not a slave.
I am His slave.

After several lunches and coffees, our first "session" or play-date if you would prefer, involved Him giving me a bath.
You might think that isn't very 'masterly' but He was in charge.
Sometimes it isn't what one does, but how one does it.

Relationships are determined by the people in them.

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