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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Don't forget the internet which has totally changed job hunting. When I was 21 we had the local papers and signs out in front of the companies. And we had to walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to the interviews.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Lol, I'm in the science field, and compared to many other majors there technically are plenty of jobs. But news flash, every millennial is running into this problem. My ex's brother was an engineer and it took him 2-3 years to find his first engineering gig, and those are jobs that are typically the most abundant. While I agree that some majors have more job opportunities than others, I went into my program expecting there to be more jobs at the end than others, and from what I've heard it's true, there are more jobs in environmental science than other majors. But at the same time, our country hasn't exactly been supporting much in the way of green progress, and as I stated earlier many companies prefer older and more experienced people for the positions. I'll say what I said to the others, spend a day a millennial and you'll be singing a different tune, because you know shit about what we have to go through.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first.

You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food..

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

in principal, im in general agreement.

I know on the whole though, students, at least many students of today, would complain vociferously about something like that and unfortunately, the administration would back them up.

once in a lab I gave the students all the apparatus they needed in order to find the answer to a particular question---and wanted them to figure it out based on the tools at hand. eventually they did, but in the meantime there was a lot of angst directed at me with "why don't you teach us??" being first and foremost.

I bet you would have liked it---figuring out center of gravity on a human body with two doctor office scales and a long plank.

Great job.

Piece of cake to solve tho.

Lie the plank so either end rests on the scales. Calibrate to zero.
Lie the person on the plank.
The ratio of weights projected along the plank is the center of gravity of the person.

Close, but no cigar.
The center of gravity or physical center of any 3 dimensional object (including humans) is a point in 3 dimensions which would commonly be expressed by its x, y and z coordinates.
The above experiment only determines the z coordinate (assuming that z is the vertical axis of the human while standing) of the location of the center of gravity. This gives the location of the plane where the desired answer (a point) is located. Due to the fact that there are an infinite number of points in a plane, the answer is nowhere close to the center of gravity.

Had you been telling them to locate a balance point, you would have been correct.
Unfortunately, you failed 10th grade geometry while attempting to teach physics.

instead of being a pompous and pedantic ass, you could rather have given some grace and understand that we're colloquially referring to the height of the center of gravity, knowing that the actual point would exist internally.

that takes care of your x, y and z axis points.

and no, there is only one point given an entire human body.

"center of gravity:

"imaginary point through which the resultant force of gravity acts on an object; in the point at which the entire weight of the body may be assumed to be concentrated; the point about which the torques created by the weights of each of the body parts balance; the point of balance of the body."

from biomechanics of sport and exercise by peter McGinnis.

"center of gravity:

"a body's center of gravity, or center of mass, is the point around which the body's weight is equally balanced..."

from basic biomechanics by susan hall.

and yeah, I know, as did my students, and I trust phydeaux knows, that the point changes according to posture.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first.

You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food..

I do see in places, such as here, that whiners who like to talk about how tough things are for them tend to be vindictive. We'll see. However, I much prefer dog food to cat food.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first.

You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food..

I do see in places, such as here, that whiners who like to talk about how tough things are for them tend to be vindictive. We'll see. However, I much prefer dog food to cat food.

Whether they are vindictive or not, I dont think they can afford to support seniors like seniors are supported now and in the past, the systems are based on more people working than there will be when you are retired.. the govt is starting to see this, didnt they just change the age you can collect benefits? i think to 68 now? its only gonna get worse cuz the govt has promised more than they can deliver on the backs of younger people who are gonna be earning less with a high & rising cost of living..

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

in principal, im in general agreement.

I know on the whole though, students, at least many students of today, would complain vociferously about something like that and unfortunately, the administration would back them up.

once in a lab I gave the students all the apparatus they needed in order to find the answer to a particular question---and wanted them to figure it out based on the tools at hand. eventually they did, but in the meantime there was a lot of angst directed at me with "why don't you teach us??" being first and foremost.

I bet you would have liked it---figuring out center of gravity on a human body with two doctor office scales and a long plank.

Great job.

Piece of cake to solve tho.

Lie the plank so either end rests on the scales. Calibrate to zero.
Lie the person on the plank.
The ratio of weights projected along the plank is the center of gravity of the person.

Close, but no cigar.
The center of gravity or physical center of any 3 dimensional object (including humans) is a point in 3 dimensions which would commonly be expressed by its x, y and z coordinates.
The above experiment only determines the z coordinate (assuming that z is the vertical axis of the human while standing) of the location of the center of gravity. This gives the location of the plane where the desired answer (a point) is located. Due to the fact that there are an infinite number of points in a plane, the answer is nowhere close to the center of gravity.

Had you been telling them to locate a balance point, you would have been correct.
Unfortunately, you failed 10th grade geometry while attempting to teach physics.

instead of being a pompous and pedantic ass, you could rather have given some grace and understand that we're colloquially referring to the height of the center of gravity, knowing that the actual point would exist internally.

that takes care of your x, y and z axis points.

and no, there is only one point given an entire human body.

"center of gravity:

"imaginary point through which the resultant force of gravity acts on an object; in the point at which the entire weight of the body may be assumed to be concentrated; the point about which the torques created by the weights of each of the body parts balance; the point of balance of the body."

from biomechanics of sport and exercise by peter McGinnis.

"center of gravity:

"a body's center of gravity, or center of mass, is the point around which the body's weight is equally balanced..."

from basic biomechanics by susan hall.

and yeah, I know, as did my students, and I trust phydeaux knows, that the point changes according to posture.

Maybe I was referring to the person who posted this (or the teacher who wrote what he quoted and claimed as his own) was complaining about young folk who have no critical thinking skills. The irony is that the author likewise has no critical thinking skills when they read this out of the teacher's manual or they would have realized the fallacy.


If you had known, OR your students, OR Phydeaux, you would have used the proper terms.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: thishereboi
And we had to walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to the interviews.

You got the easy hill.

Yours truley
Sisyphus

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Actually, I agree with most of what you're saying. I'm not counting on millennials to support me. Although I am looking forward to the day each of the Bernie socialist millennials realizes what the leftist tax and spend politicians left them to clean up. Instant conservatives. It's what the left always forgets, eventually the smart young socialists become conservative.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117
Ah the simple mindedness of being a conservative. Things are always so black and white for you morons. How I wish the world was truly so simple as you view it. I'm not wasting my time going through your bullshit response, but I will say this; my generation is and continues to work their assess off to get places in life, and simply pointing out that you old farts are applying ancient standards on a generation where they don't apply is in itself passing blame onto others. You don't want to take responsibility for the fact that your generation and earlier have had a negative affect on later generations. You think that if you can do it, so can anyone else at any other time period, not taking into consideration the fact that money isn't worth as much as it was in the past and prices have risen disproportionately for pretty much everything. Maybe back in the 60s or 70s when it was possible to do so, sure. But that's not the way things are anymore. That's the problem with the older generation, they're stuck in the past and they think if they shit out a turd it has to be golden and the younger generation should be content with it. I take responsibility for my own life, and I'm doing my absolute best to enter the industry that I've been working towards. But it's not bitching and whining to look at cause and effect relationships, and how past generations simply haven't made it easy for us millennials as a whole. I'm taking responsibility for my life and I'm ready to take responsibility for the effect my generation has on the next, are you lot ready to take responsibility for what you've done to inhibit my generation or is just gonna be more denial talking down to people who aren't doing the same things you people did in your youth?

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: Marini

You had newspapers?
And shoes?
Wow!!!!

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Marini

You had newspapers?
And shoes?
Wow!!!!

Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Marini

You had newspapers?
And shoes?
Wow!!!!

Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left.

Me? Someone is a mean mood.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

My comment was a joke, in the theme of those complaining about how hard it was years ago.

If you read up, I told the young man I felt sorry for his generation.
Clearly a joke.
You have issues, carry on.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Marini

My comment was a joke, in the theme of those complaining about how hard it was years ago.

If you read up, I told the young man I felt sorry for his generation.
Clearly a joke.
You have issues, carry on.

Yeah?well at least that attack is straightforward.

Issues, eh. I'm not the one passing off cheap attacks as jokes.

Do you make fun of minorities too? Polish jokes. Jewish jokes. Those funny too? Or is it only those on the right you make fun of?

Why don't you explain the humor what so funny in making fun of someone.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: Marini

You had newspapers?
And shoes?
Wow!!!!

Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left.