UllrsIshtar
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I didn't advocate punishing for a undeliberate act of disobedience. In fact, I specifically stated that if it's a slip up caused by not yet knowing the rule, it should be corrected, not punished. If we're at the point where he's told her to address him as "Master" and she hasn't brought up an issue then, there shouldn't be a mental trigger/block issue at this point, else it should have been addressed from the get go. People with triggers generally know what they are, and even when they don't, the fact that there is an issue becomes apparent when the new situation arises, and unexpected reactions can be addressed then. As far as 'snottiness' due to low blood sugar goes, my girl, Tess, has that same problem. If she gets low on blood sugar, her attitude becomes worse. Issues like that are indeed managed by fixing the problem, and not by punishment. At the same time, I don't tolerate from her an unacceptable attitude just because she has blood sugar issues. Even when she is having issues, she's expected to keep her emotions enough in check to deal with them in an adult way. This isn't any different from the fact that she needs to manage her emotions at work. Just because she's having a blood sugar crash, doesn't mean that she can say whatever she wants to her boss, or storm out of work mad. Doing so would get her fired, and so she manages her blood sugar crashes well enough at work. Sure, she might be moody, and her colleagues and boss might be able to tell that something is 'off', but she still manages to be respectful and functional enough to not get fired. The same thing is expected from her at home: if she has blood sugar issues, she can act in an 'off' way, but she cannot act in a way that if she would do it with her boss, a client, or a colleague, would get her fired. When Ullr or I notice her being 'off', she gets asked if blood sugar (or lack of sleep, or stress, or something else) might be an issue, and then the issue gets fixed. There is no punishment for that, rather an addressing of the issue. However, if she instead of being 'off' would act in a way that would get her fired at work, what happens is that we figure out what the issue is, fix it, and then she gets punished for behaving in an unacceptable way. She's not excused for behaving in a minimally respectful and adult way, just because she feels like shit. Just because we're closer to her than her boss is, doesn't mean that she gets to treat us with any less respect than she would manage with him when feeling like crap.
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