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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 10:49:37 AM   
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BamaD, WV cannot be too reasonable.
I fit in fine.....

Yes but compare that to MN were someone else here lives.



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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 4:02:01 PM   
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Update on the Orlando shooter.


Man Says He Was Orlando Shooter’s Gay Lover, Says Omar Mateen Targeted Latinos as Revenge

A man who claimed to be Orlando shooter Omar Mateen’s gay lover came forward, giving an interview while wearing a disguise to Univision on Tuesday. The man, identified only as “Miguel,” says he met Mateen through the gay dating app Grindr and described their two-month relationship as "friends with benefits” where they met 15 to 20 times at an Orlando hotel, the last time in Dec. 2015.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/21/man_says_he_was_orlando_shooter_s_gay_lover_says_omar_mateen_targeted_latinos.html

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 4:21:07 PM   
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So he was gay.
So he felt guilty about that.
It was the Jihadists who told him that mass murder was the answer.
It was ISIS he swore allegence too.
It was ISIS who claimed him.
At most it can be claimed the his problems with being gay was the pressure point used to radicalizing him.

You might as well say that since a person is already a racist the the Klan is not responsible for thier actions just because they tell to kill people and tell him how to maximize the damage.



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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 4:23:21 PM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 4:54:21 PM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 4:59:46 PM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.

It wasnt latent. He hallucinated that Orlando gays were the problem, just like nutsucker hallucinate they are not the problem. But it has nothing to do in the real world with ISIS. Nor Islam, much as the nutsuckers hallucinate it does.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 5:41:21 PM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.

It wasnt latent. He hallucinated that Orlando gays were the problem, just like nutsucker hallucinate they are not the problem. But it has nothing to do in the real world with ISIS. Nor Islam, much as the nutsuckers hallucinate it does.

Isn't that special Prof Corey.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 6:04:32 PM   
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You will not find a perfect Christian it is impossible but if there are questions of the fundamental core read the red print in the KJV New Testament. Your welcome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_letter_edition

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 10:34:27 PM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.

It wasnt latent. He hallucinated that Orlando gays were the problem, just like nutsucker hallucinate they are not the problem. But it has nothing to do in the real world with ISIS. Nor Islam, much as the nutsuckers hallucinate it does.

Isn't that special Prof Corey.


Well, BubbawelfarepatinentRIFferfelchingnutsuckerretard, if you say so. Cuz you is elagible.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 2:00:52 AM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.


Totally right!

To think that this guy might have, you know, hated himself for his homosexuality (and by extension other homosexuals) and then snapped just defies logic. The idea that he might have, you know, rationalized this attack as being for a cause (whether ISIS or fill-in-random-terror-group-here) rather than accept that he was a nutcase in the midst of a mental breakdown is just ridiculous.

If the man claimed to be shooting up a gay club for ISIS (rather than something like a military base or a government building) then obviously homosexuality has nothing to do with it. Something you leftists will never understand - mass shooters are both incredibly honest and unbelievably sane. Which is why they're allowed to own high-powered death machines.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 3:13:25 AM   
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Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.


Totally right!

To think that this guy might have, you know, hated himself for his homosexuality (and by extension other homosexuals) and then snapped just defies logic. The idea that he might have, you know, rationalized this attack as being for a cause (whether ISIS or fill-in-random-terror-group-here) rather than accept that he was a nutcase in the midst of a mental breakdown is just ridiculous.

If the man claimed to be shooting up a gay club for ISIS (rather than something like a military base or a government building) then obviously homosexuality has nothing to do with it. Something you leftists will never understand - mass shooters are both incredibly honest and unbelievably sane. Which is why they're allowed to own high-powered death machines.

You clearly didn't read my post very well.
I said that assuming his self hatred that would be an easy avenue to radicalize him. It would provide him with people who re inforced that feeling and encouraged him to act on it violently, precipitating that snap who are talking about. This no more absolves ISIS than the fact that a person was a racist absolves the Klan.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 3:19:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Staleek


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.


Totally right!

To think that this guy might have, you know, hated himself for his homosexuality (and by extension other homosexuals) and then snapped just defies logic. The idea that he might have, you know, rationalized this attack as being for a cause (whether ISIS or fill-in-random-terror-group-here) rather than accept that he was a nutcase in the midst of a mental breakdown is just ridiculous.

If the man claimed to be shooting up a gay club for ISIS (rather than something like a military base or a government building) then obviously homosexuality has nothing to do with it. Something you leftists will never understand - mass shooters are both incredibly honest and unbelievably sane. Which is why they're allowed to own high-powered death machines.

You clearly didn't read my post very well.
I said that assuming his self hatred that would be an easy avenue to radicalize him. It would provide him with people who re inforced that feeling and encouraged him to act on it violently, precipitating that snap who are talking about. This no more absolves ISIS than the fact that a person was a racist absolves the Klan.


The guy had nothing to do with ISIS.

Trying to say that ISIS is a bigger factor in a mass shooting than the easy availability of assault weapons is not credible or intelligent.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 3:26:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Staleek


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.


Totally right!

To think that this guy might have, you know, hated himself for his homosexuality (and by extension other homosexuals) and then snapped just defies logic. The idea that he might have, you know, rationalized this attack as being for a cause (whether ISIS or fill-in-random-terror-group-here) rather than accept that he was a nutcase in the midst of a mental breakdown is just ridiculous.

If the man claimed to be shooting up a gay club for ISIS (rather than something like a military base or a government building) then obviously homosexuality has nothing to do with it. Something you leftists will never understand - mass shooters are both incredibly honest and unbelievably sane. Which is why they're allowed to own high-powered death machines.

You clearly didn't read my post very well.
I said that assuming his self hatred that would be an easy avenue to radicalize him. It would provide him with people who re inforced that feeling and encouraged him to act on it violently, precipitating that snap who are talking about. This no more absolves ISIS than the fact that a person was a racist absolves the Klan.


The guy had nothing to do with ISIS.

Trying to say that ISIS is a bigger factor in a mass shooting than the easy availability of assault weapons is not credible or intelligent.

Both he and ISIS said he was doing it for them and assault weapons have been all but banned since 1934.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 6:29:20 AM   
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1968. and nutsuckers say they are fiscally responsible, and are in possession of facts. Which has been totally debunked in all cases.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 6:38:15 AM   
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It had nothing to do with daesh, he declared his allegiance just before the shooting, his first wife thought he was gay, so he had identity issues, and he figured killing them would stop that... Daesh only said they were responsible after the fact... I could do something heinous and just before said I was doing it for the Islamic State, and they would claim that they are converting white folks to fight for them..

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-man-who-says-he-was-omar-mateen-gay-lover-speaks-out-univision/

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 6:38:56 AM   
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Hmmm... I was thinking maybe there's a little truth to everyone's theories.
Obviously this guy was in a lot of pain and anger to commit such an act.
Possibility it never started as an ISIS attack but ended credited to them.
My theory is based on the fact of his cultural roots. He is gay or bisexual, in his mind his culture hates him, and he gives credit to culture.
He does not like his reflection so he kills others like him thinking this will please the universe and the heavenly gates will open.
It's a hell of a lot easier and faster to just off it, kill, then to love them to death. I am telling you what this loving people to death requires work!

Oh to tell with it, where's my gun?


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 7:28:55 AM   
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Both he and ISIS said he was doing it for them


ISIS are more than happy to claim credit for any violent act committed in the West. They have nothing to do with any of it.

ISIS are not a terrorist organization. They are a brutal and oppressive insurgency, but outside of the territory they consider their home they couldn't give a shit. Of course they don't like the West, but that is because the bombs are now being dropped from aeroplanes instead of delivered in crates.

I know it is against your principles but I am going to ask you to think about this for a second. If ISIS really had an agent ready to strike within the USA borders where would they hit?

They might hit New York, revisiting 9/11, trying to repeat Bin-Ladens successful attack.

They might try to go for the Whitehouse or Pentagon, maybe hurt the leadership.

They might even try to go for symbolism and go for the Statue of Liberty or something.

Or they might go for good old eye for an eye and try to hit a military base. Whilst that wouldn't be smart, it would be ISIS style.

But no. They say to this guy "Hmmm... I haven't really been out of the Middle East so I don't know what it's like there, but are there any gay nightclubs you can shoot up"? This is fantasy.

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and assault weapons have been all but banned since 1934.


The weapon he used was legally obtained. I don't give a shit what some fruitcake gun-fanatic who needs a surrogate penis-gun to feel potent again terms as "assault" death machine and "ordinary" death machine. This man had an assault weapon and used it to destroy dozens of lives.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 7:32:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Look at all the nutsuckers who claim fiscal responsibility and facts, everyone knows they are hallucinating. Same thing here.

You are correct, blaming Orlando on his latent Homosesuality is an halucination.


Totally right!

To think that this guy might have, you know, hated himself for his homosexuality (and by extension other homosexuals) and then snapped just defies logic. The idea that he might have, you know, rationalized this attack as being for a cause (whether ISIS or fill-in-random-terror-group-here) rather than accept that he was a nutcase in the midst of a mental breakdown is just ridiculous.

If the man claimed to be shooting up a gay club for ISIS (rather than something like a military base or a government building) then obviously homosexuality has nothing to do with it. Something you leftists will never understand - mass shooters are both incredibly honest and unbelievably sane. Which is why they're allowed to own high-powered death machines.

You clearly didn't read my post very well.
I said that assuming his self hatred that would be an easy avenue to radicalize him. It would provide him with people who re inforced that feeling and encouraged him to act on it violently, precipitating that snap who are talking about. This no more absolves ISIS than the fact that a person was a racist absolves the Klan.


The guy had nothing to do with ISIS.

Trying to say that ISIS is a bigger factor in a mass shooting than the easy availability of assault weapons is not credible or intelligent.

Both he and ISIS said he was doing it for them and assault weapons have been all but banned since 1934.

Hmmmmmmmmm yes, so you keep saying, despite the fact that the CIA have plainly said, he was not an Isis jihadist.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2767280/no-links-found-between-orlando-shooter-and-isis-cia-director/

“We have not been able to uncover any direct link between that individual, Mateen, and a foreign terrorist organization,” Brennan told a U.S. Senate intelligence committee Thursday.

http://wgntv.com/2016/06/16/orlando-shooter-had-no-ties-to-foreign-terrorists-cia-director-says/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/16/cia-orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-isis-pulse-nightclub-attack

http://www.wsj.com/articles/islamic-states-terror-capabilities-intact-cia-chief-says-1466085468

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 7:35:59 AM   
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PS. the guy who "tried to kill trump" is british and had overstayed his visa.
An illegal allien.
Why has the head Flump not been ranting about being attacked by an illegal?
Is it because he is white?
Is it because he is english and not from a "bad" country?
WHere have his rants been??

Edited to add, LOL I just saw the damn scotland trip...sighs.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/23/2016 7:40:56 AM   
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Both he and ISIS said he was doing it for them


ISIS are more than happy to claim credit for any violent act committed in the West. They have nothing to do with any of it.

ISIS are not a terrorist organization. They are a brutal and oppressive insurgency, but outside of the territory they consider their home they couldn't give a shit. Of course they don't like the West, but that is because the bombs are now being dropped from aeroplanes instead of delivered in crates.

I know it is against your principles but I am going to ask you to think about this for a second. If ISIS really had an agent ready to strike within the USA borders where would they hit?

They might hit New York, revisiting 9/11, trying to repeat Bin-Ladens successful attack.

They might try to go for the Whitehouse or Pentagon, maybe hurt the leadership.

They might even try to go for symbolism and go for the Statue of Liberty or something.

Or they might go for good old eye for an eye and try to hit a military base. Whilst that wouldn't be smart, it would be ISIS style.

But no. They say to this guy "Hmmm... I haven't really been out of the Middle East so I don't know what it's like there, but are there any gay nightclubs you can shoot up"? This is fantasy.

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and assault weapons have been all but banned since 1934.


The weapon he used was legally obtained. I don't give a shit what some fruitcake gun-fanatic who needs a surrogate penis-gun to feel potent again terms as "assault" death machine and "ordinary" death machine. This man had an assault weapon and used it to destroy dozens of lives.

this

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