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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 9:23:00 AM

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Actually you are lying as usual.

You said it.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 9:24:32 AM

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BamaD, WV cannot be too reasonable.
I fit in fine.....

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 9:39:59 AM

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The issue isn't all that complicated, really.

War was declared by the Jihadists in (at least) 1979. Collectively and en toto, we've been oblivious to this.

Oh, sure, we've done some things, but as is usual with this country since 1945, we haven't fought this war to win. Most recently (the last seven and a half years), we've been cowering in the corner, saying: "If we say we like and respect you, will you stop hurting us, please?"

It's feckless. It's "prison bitch" behavior.

No sovereign nation, when attacked, should feel like they can't defend themselves and, sometimes, the best defense is a good offense.

Enough with the directionless bullshit. If they're at war with us, shouldn't we be at war with them?

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Well to a certain extent you are. Islam is a primitive, violent, backward culture which should be stamped out wherever it arises in Western societies. It is absolutely pointless to attempt tolerance with a culture devoted to intolerance. Islam is fundamentally inimical to the foundations of liberty which undermine notions of democracy and - in particular - the American Republic.

The Constitution prohibits - and it should - the establishment of laws pertaining to religion, however there should absolutely be no tolerance for cultural practices which are incompatible with Western democracy. Islam and Muslims should be called out on an ongoing basis for their hatred of homosexuals and Jews and their promotion of a what is fundamentally a death cult.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 9:51:56 AM

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It was about your refering to a mid to low range rifle caliber as highpowered.

You have been shown that the .223 is a high power rifle.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

The shooting took place at point blank range. The way they were packed, if he had been using a true high powered rifle he would have hit two or three victims per round as the bullets would have gone clear through a person at that range.

Only a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms would make such a stupid statement.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

You are trying to claim that the .223 is in the same power range as the 30-06?

Nope...I did not say that. I gave you site that describes what high power rifle is. The .223 is on the list just as is the 30-06.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Here is Tommy boys original post, so who said it?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 9:57:16 AM

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see post 865. You did.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:01:16 AM

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highpower is meaningless as I have shown you.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:04:14 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_power_rifle

This is one of the definitions of a high power rifle. And as we see, AR-15 (a .223) is on the list of qualifiers.

So, having no knowledge of this subject, why do you feel it necessary to hep us to your personal brand of untutored misinformation?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:06:07 AM

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see post 865. You did.

That was refering back to this post of his.
Regardless he admitted in his post long before the one you are talking about that the 30-06 was a true high powered rifle.
He was also calling a statement he made as something only an idiot would say.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:10:39 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_power_rifle

This is one of the definitions of a high power rifle. And as we see, AR-15 (a .223) is on the list of qualifiers.

So, having no knowledge of this subject, why do you feel it necessary to hep us to your personal brand of untutored misinformation?

So you have proven something to be a fact which has (according to you) a definition so loose as to be meaningless and can mean anything you want it to BUT if it doesn't fit your definition it is wrong.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:22:20 AM

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Nope, we know you are not facile with the English language, but F Class (non-military) in the high powered rifle subset allows 30-30, so even in that definition its a high power rifle. And the 30-30 has brought down more deer in America than any other gun.

It is a good short to medium range rifle, where the 308 and the 30-06 (same diameter) overtakes it is in the long range.

A standard el-cheapo remington 170 grain bullet has 425 pounds at 500 yards.

they could easily take human life at 225 yards.

In fact, coming from a long history of LEOs you might not know that 30-30s were standard police issue in the day.

Model 94s were the commons. Mississippi prison guards carried them til at least 1980.

But this is a foolish semantic argument that is as pointless as your chance of being correct in any aspect of it.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:26:56 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_power_rifle

This is one of the definitions of a high power rifle. And as we see, AR-15 (a .223) is on the list of qualifiers.

So, having no knowledge of this subject, why do you feel it necessary to hep us to your personal brand of untutored misinformation?

So you have proven something to be a fact which has (according to you) a definition so loose as to be meaningless and can mean anything you want it to BUT if it doesn't fit your definition it is wrong.

Nope, being meaningless you are wrong. To say chow mein is an example of ancient chinese cuisine is meaningless, since they do have dishes with fried noodles and sprouts and meat and onion and so on, (and those are not the necessary and sufficient conditions to define chow mein) but chow mein was not mentioned here until 1920. It doesn't mean anything.

Whats the fucking point? You cannot imbue meaning to something that is clearly wrong as you say it and meaningless in terms of its nomenclature.

Today is another day we won't make up the meaning of meaningless words.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 11:26:16 AM

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see post 865. You did.

That was refering back to this post of his.

"The shooting took place at point blank range. The way they were packed, if he had been using a true high powered rifle he would have hit two or three victims per round as the bullets would have gone clear through a person at that range."

I said"Only a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms would make such a stupid statement.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid".
You seem to think that a .223 will not go through more than one or two bodies before it finds it's final resting place.
This is what labels you as a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms who makes stupid statements such as this.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 11:31:54 AM

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Islam is a primitive, violent, backward culture which should be stamped out wherever it arises in Western societies.

Much the same might be said about christianity.

It is absolutely pointless to attempt tolerance with a culture devoted to intolerance.

Your level of tolerance seems pretty intolerant.

Islam is fundamentally inimical to the foundations of liberty which undermine notions of democracy and - in particular - the American Republic.

So also is christinity.

The Constitution prohibits - and it should - the establishment of laws pertaining to religion, however there should absolutely be no tolerance for cultural practices which are incompatible with Western democracy.

Cultural practices like rape pillage and plunder seem to be subject to public sanctions most everywhere.

Islam and Muslims should be called out on an ongoing basis for their hatred of homosexuals and Jews and their promotion of a what is fundamentally a death cult.

So also christians don't you think?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 8:50:36 PM

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Islam is a primitive, violent, backward culture which should be stamped out wherever it arises in Western societies.

Much the same might be said about christianity.

You could say it - but you'd be something of a fucking idiot. Christianity does not enshrine murder, nor does it have a central figure promoting murder. In fact, the central theme of Christianity is "love your enemies and pray for those who hurt you". The central theme of Islam is: "You killed a Jew? Good, go kill another one".

Maybe next time you should know what the fuck you're talking about, peckerhead.

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It is absolutely pointless to attempt tolerance with a culture devoted to intolerance.

Your level of tolerance seems pretty intolerant.

I'm generally intolerant when it comes to state-mandated murder. You, no doubt, would prefer to spend your time as an apologist for Islamic terrorism.

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Islam is fundamentally inimical to the foundations of liberty which undermine notions of democracy and - in particular - the American Republic.

So also is christinity.

No, that's just stupid and shows you up as someone who has no fucking idea what he's talking about. America was founded by Christians fleeing religious strife. Christianity has been a foundational shared value set for a significant proportion of the population up until a century or so ago. America has done pretty well.

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The Constitution prohibits - and it should - the establishment of laws pertaining to religion, however there should absolutely be no tolerance for cultural practices which are incompatible with Western democracy.

Cultural practices like rape pillage and plunder seem to be subject to public sanctions most everywhere.

Except in Islamic societies where rape is deemed the fault of the woman, honor killing is common and homosexuals and apostates are put to death.

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Islam and Muslims should be called out on an ongoing basis for their hatred of homosexuals and Jews and their promotion of a what is fundamentally a death cult.

So also christians don't you think?

No. Christianity does not promote murder. The two religions are utterly different with a completely different focus on conflict. To conflate the two is the mark of an idiot or an apologist for Islamic aggression.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:30:29 PM

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see post 865. You did.

The post that you are in now is 865.
Your normal level of proof.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 10:33:55 PM

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see post 865. You did.

That was refering back to this post of his.

"The shooting took place at point blank range. The way they were packed, if he had been using a true high powered rifle he would have hit two or three victims per round as the bullets would have gone clear through a person at that range."

I said"Only a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms would make such a stupid statement.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid".
You seem to think that a .223 will not go through more than one or two bodies before it finds it's final resting place.
This is what labels you as a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms who makes stupid statements such as this.

And that was talking about what you said in something of yours I clearly was reposting.
Combine that with prof Corey's statement that I said it in post 865, problem is he said that in post 865

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 11:13:54 PM

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Islam is a primitive, violent, backward culture which should be stamped out wherever it arises in Western societies.

Much the same might be said about christianity.

You could say it - but you'd be something of a fucking idiot.

Opinions vary

Christianity does not enshrine murder,

You might want to read the bible sometime...lots of "rightious murder" going on there.

nor does it have a central figure promoting murder.

So the people in sodam and gomorah all died of old age? If noah&co were in the boat then the central figure snuffed the whole world with the flood.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

In fact, the central theme of Christianity is "love your enemies and pray for those who hurt you".

The history books tell a somewhat different story

The central theme of Islam is: "You killed a Jew? Good, go kill another one".

Isn't that what christians did to pagans?

Maybe next time you should know what the fuck you're talking about, peckerhead.

Your mom calls me mr. peckerhead when her mouth is empty.

It is absolutely pointless to attempt tolerance with a culture devoted to intolerance.

Your level of tolerance seems pretty intolerant.

I'm generally intolerant when it comes to state-mandated murder.

So you are against war???the death penality?

You, no doubt, would prefer to spend your time as an apologist for Islamic terrorism.

Actually I am having good time pointing out your ignorance.

Islam is fundamentally inimical to the foundations of liberty which undermine notions of democracy and - in particular - the American Republic.

So also is christinity.

No, that's just stupid and shows you up as someone who has no fucking idea what he's talking about. America was founded by Christians fleeing religious strife.

Have you ever read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

Christianity has been a foundational shared value set for a significant proportion of the population up until a century or so ago. America has done pretty well.

It appears that you feel that genocide is a foundtional value of christianity...or did you think all of the native amerikans died of old age also?

The Constitution prohibits - and it should - the establishment of laws pertaining to religion, however there should absolutely be no tolerance for cultural practices which are incompatible with Western democracy.

Cultural practices like rape pillage and plunder seem to be subject to public sanctions most everywhere.

Except in Islamic societies where rape is deemed the fault of the woman, honor killing is common and homosexuals and apostates are put to death.

Wow just like amerika(get an adult to help you read the "comstock laws"). You may wish to have an adult help you with finding out when amerika outlawed "dueling" ya know honor killing? Perhps you had not heard of the incident in fla. an amerikan murdered 50 some homosexuals.

Islam and Muslims should be called out on an ongoing basis for their hatred of homosexuals and Jews and their promotion of a what is fundamentally a death cult.

So also christians don't you think?

No. Christianity does not promote murder.

Your position is that christians do not murder???
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

The two religions are utterly different with a completely different focus on conflict.

Really???Perhaps you might compare and contrast the rise of the amerikan empire and the ottoman empire? Please do show us how they differ?

To conflate the two is the mark of an idiot or an apologist for Islamic aggression.

Many would see amerika as the aggressor. The 9/11 guys were from the country of our allies. Amerika is in the sandbox the sandbox is not in amerika.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 11:17:27 PM

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"The shooting took place at point blank range. The way they were packed, if he had been using a true high powered rifle he would have hit two or three victims per round as the bullets would have gone clear through a person at that range."

I said"Only a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms would make such a stupid statement.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid".
You seem to think that a .223 will not go through more than one or two bodies before it finds it's final resting place.
This is what labels you as a simpleton with absolutely no knowledge of firearms who makes stupid statements such as this.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/21/2016 11:40:47 PM

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BamaD, WV cannot be too reasonable.
I fit in fine.....

Yes but compare that to MN were someone else here lives.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/22/2016 3:33:23 AM

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In fact, the central theme of Christianity is "love your enemies and pray for those who hurt you". The central theme of Islam is: "You killed a Jew? Good, go kill another one".