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Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 6:19:34 AM   
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Well. This sucks.

As always, the 72 hour rule is in effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html

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About 20 people were killed and at least 42 people were wounded when a gunman armed with an assault-style rifle, a handgun and possibly an explosive device opened fire inside a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., about 2 a.m., Police Chief John Mina said.

The police classified the attack as a “terror incident.” Local and federal authorities were investigating, and the F.B.I. set up a hotline for tips.

The police and the federal authorities said they were pursuing several angles in the terrorism investigation, both overseas and in the United States.

The gunman was not from the Orlando area and was organized and well-prepared, the police said.

The gunman was found dead inside the Pulse nightclub, one of the largest gay clubs in Orlando, about 5 a.m. after a shootout with officers who were attempting to rescue dozens of people who were being held hostage, said Chief Mina. He confirmed that the gunman had been killed by the police.

The chief said it was difficult to assess the number of clubgoers who had been killed because many of the bodies had not been removed.

The police were searching the club for other explosives that the gunman may have planted during his assault on Pulse.


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:05:17 AM   
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REALLY WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.. IN THE STATES...
NO gunlaws, [[[because it is our right]]]!!!!

absolute nonsense.. [from U>K>] and carry a Glock for my job]]]

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:06:21 AM   
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quote:

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Well. This sucks.

As always, the 72 hour rule is in effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html

quote:

About 20 people were killed and at least 42 people were wounded when a gunman armed with an assault-style rifle, a handgun and possibly an explosive device opened fire inside a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., about 2 a.m., Police Chief John Mina said.

The police classified the attack as a “terror incident.” Local and federal authorities were investigating, and the F.B.I. set up a hotline for tips.

The police and the federal authorities said they were pursuing several angles in the terrorism investigation, both overseas and in the United States.

The gunman was not from the Orlando area and was organized and well-prepared, the police said.

The gunman was found dead inside the Pulse nightclub, one of the largest gay clubs in Orlando, about 5 a.m. after a shootout with officers who were attempting to rescue dozens of people who were being held hostage, said Chief Mina. He confirmed that the gunman had been killed by the police.

The chief said it was difficult to assess the number of clubgoers who had been killed because many of the bodies had not been removed.

The police were searching the club for other explosives that the gunman may have planted during his assault on Pulse.


Im sad, but not surprised. Yesterday there were PRIDE celebrations in a lot of places. I'm actually surprised that there wasn't a bomb at a parade somewhere.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:17:57 AM   
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Weird: no rightist asshats screaming about how the shooter must be a moslem jihadist.
They're off their game today...


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:45:03 AM   
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Weird: no rightist asshats screaming about how the shooter must be a moslem jihadist.
They're off their game today...


...or your assumptions are wrong.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:48:39 AM   
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News media are now reporting 50 dead and 53 wounded at the Orlando gay nightclub "Pulse". CBS has identified the shooter as Omar Seddique Mateen.



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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:57:04 AM   
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Shooters name is apparently Omar Mateen
There was a killing in orlando of a young singer the day previously by a crazed fan...also killed himself.
My thoughts are with the victims and their families,
72 hours....


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:06:36 AM   
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This is completely awful. It saddens me it is coming to this.
I do not believe this was an Islamic attack. In fact I tire of blaming them for everything.
Wake up and know that some of these things are our own people, losing it because of the bombarding of demoralizing of values and it being shoved in our faces.
It's like painfully poking a dog over and over and over and wonder why they bite. it's best not to flaunt behaviors because look how dangerous it becomes.
This was an emotional display of unhinged anger, my heart goes out to the families and victims who suffer the pain.
America is no longer the great place to live.



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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:12:17 AM   
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Too awful for words.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:17:40 AM   
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Now they are reporting as many as 50 dead... I am just waiting for one of our gun friends to pop in and say... see if someone had a gun this would not have happened... they may be right.

But this happened in a gun happy stand your ground state... Lets see how this terrorist got his guns and ammo.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:20:05 AM   
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Now they are reporting as many as 50 dead... I am just waiting for one of our gun friends to pop in and say... see if someone had a gun this would not have happened... they may be right.



It'll be more. 50 dead and 54 wounded.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:27:27 AM   
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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:43:30 AM   
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While America continues to indulge it's psychotic addiction to guns, this will continue to happen.

Mind you, this won't change anything. If they won't legislate after the fucking mass murder of children, they're sure as shit not going to legislate when someone attacks "a bunch of queers, goddamit!"



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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:51:39 AM   
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I really should keep my mouth shut but duty calls..

All this is not just about religion. Many of these tragedies have been performed by people of zero religious affiliation.
No matter the reason we will find about this unhinged man and no matter his religion, if he is even religious, he was an American citizen.
In truth, as I see it, Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters in some kind of mysterious connection.
The superior level of Christianity at its highest form is peace and the highest supreme level of being a Muslim is we will take considered deviants out of the picture.
It is an odd correlation, which may Instill anger in some, but I say it for people to think about, and protect themselves.
I'm a rough and abrasive at times but I would never ever kill anyone, only in self defense or to protect another. I have a conscious that runs deep.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:54:10 AM   
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I really should keep my mouth shut but duty calls..

All this is not just about religion. Many of these tragedies have been performed by people of zero religious affiliation.
No matter the reason we will find about this unhinged man and no matter his religion, if he is even religious, he was an American citizen.
In truth, as I see it, Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters in some kind of mysterious connection.
The superior level of Christianity at its highest form is peace and the highest supreme level of being a Muslim is we will take considered deviants out of the picture.
It is an odd correlation, which may Instill anger in some, but I say it for people to think about, and protect themselves.
I'm a rough and abrasive at times but I would never ever kill anyone, only in self defense or to protect another. I have a conscious that runs deep.
I'm used to dealing with people whose English is less than perfect, but I've come to the conclusion that you're something of a loon.


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 9:06:36 AM   
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If they won't legislate after the fucking mass murder of children, they're sure as shit not going to legislate when someone attacks "a bunch of queers, goddamit!"

Too true. Sigh.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 9:16:33 AM   
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Weird: no rightist asshats screaming about how the shooter must be a moslem jihadist.
They're off their game today...


To be honest, my first thought was fundalmental extremist Christian who decide to kill gay people.

I was thinking okay, while Muslims in Muslim countries do kill gay people, but generally, they wanna kill everybody equally, gay or not, and don't specifically target gays.

But who knew. Turns out to be a Muslim.

What to do?

Now the death of Christina Grimmie sounds almost like a classic hired killer to specially kill her. Now what kind of enemies does she have? In Malaysia, hired killers to walk into like restaurants, clubs or whatever, just to walk in, gun down one specific person and walk out, is soo common. But they only target one, the one they are paid to kill.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 9:19:41 AM   
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Weird: no rightist asshats screaming about how the shooter must be a moslem jihadist.
They're off their game today...


To be honest, my first thought was fundalmental extremist Christian who decide to kill gay people.

I was thinking okay, while Muslims in Muslim countries do kill gay people, but generally, they wanna kill everybody equally, gay or not, and don't specifically target gays.

But who knew. Turns out to be a Muslim.

What to do?
Yes, because - as Milo Yiannopolous so ably points out - all those Muslim countries which the left keeps pandering to are primarily noted for their tendency to push gay people off tall buildings - literally.

A Muslim grabs a gun and kills a bunch of gay people? Hardly a surprise - it's their culture.


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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 9:20:10 AM   
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the tragedy in fla is very sad and there are many who need support in its aftermath my prayers are for the familys of those affected
the 2nd amendment has 2 parts 1 right to keep arms for home defense
and 2 right to bear arms as a prt of a well organized militia
for those that want to carry a gun they can join one of the many recognized groups to do so
as far as having a assault rifle as your carry gun i dont see any reason for it
there is no excuse in using any religion as a reason to cause great harm instead of looking for a reason to point blame and hate lets try to find a way to prevent hate and accept others and their diffrences

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 9:24:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67

I really should keep my mouth shut but duty calls..

All this is not just about religion. Many of these tragedies have been performed by people of zero religious affiliation.
No matter the reason we will find about this unhinged man and no matter his religion, if he is even religious, he was an American citizen.
In truth, as I see it, Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters in some kind of mysterious connection.
The superior level of Christianity at its highest form is peace and the highest supreme level of being a Muslim is we will take considered deviants out of the picture.
It is an odd correlation, which may Instill anger in some, but I say it for people to think about, and protect themselves.
I'm a rough and abrasive at times but I would never ever kill anyone, only in self defense or to protect another. I have a conscious that runs deep.
I'm used to dealing with people whose English is less than perfect, but I've come to the conclusion that you're something of a loon.



It is you who don't speak the language. You find me set apart? Excellent.
I know perfectly well what you mean by loon... But I will take the orginal definition ... Yes you can think of me as a bird.
You have awareness of nothing.
Insult me somewhere else not on this thread, show respect for the dead and their families. You have no courtesy even in this venue.




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