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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/7/2016 11:22:11 PM   
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.....how it is that anybody believes this man did anything at all in life that in fact he didn't...without his father and his father's partners ?

You know, reality in life is, connections you have can make a huge difference but do you cash in on the those connections? Not everybody can. A rich kid can have all the best connections, but IF he does not work hard and focus on growing his wealth and spend his time squandering it all away and having fun. Having those connections will be no use. And he will lose the respect of his connections too and find himself that nobody is willing to help him along later.

A street smart poor, or a crazily ambitious poor kid, will try to make his way into the right circles, befriend the ones that are important. Let me tell you, a poor kid can plan to do this as simple as start befriending his rich friends in school, hang out at their place, get to know their parents as children, create a relationship, create a bond, and then basically when he starts out working in life, he already have all the connections at hand to get him somewhere and sail through quite smoothly, because he has got favourtism, the right help, and he had a plan to surround himself with the right people to get there.

I've known poor kids who have done this. Building the right connections is important. Especially if you are a business starter, you need these relations to convince people with money to invest in your business. When you are poor, you need to use other people's money to start. And this was the old school way of how poor kids become rich too. These days, you got crowd funding, and you can literally get money from strangers from the internet to start your own business if you convince them, you are the right investment.

Or a poor kid can also just stand at the sidelines and decide, his horribly disadvantage and feel bad about it, but never thinking about solutions on what he can do to get out of it. A rich kid may just feel, he has enough money to never work, why work? And just drain or live on his entire inheritance without adding value to the world.

So to me, I don't understand all these belittling of his achievements. Rich or Poor, being rich doesn't mean you can stay rich unless you know how to manage your money and make it grow, as inherited wealth is not infinite. And Being poor doesn't mean getting rich is impossible.

But it's all up to individuals how they wanna achieve what they want. I think Trump works very hard for a pampered rich kid.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/7/2016 11:45:31 PM   
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... you have to get your fingers messy and clean off your face...to get the full experience.


So true - about so many things.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/8/2016 12:56:27 AM   
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It's not that the donald has made money, it's that so much was made off the backs of honest people who thought a legal contract meant they got paid, whether employees, contractors or tradesmen. NOBODY in the history of the USA who has run for president has been in court as many times as Frump. 3,500 times in the last 10 years. 1,300 of these as defendant. That's 2 a WEEK! The history of his simple decisions to Not pay bills or employees their due is astounding. His stripping projects of anything worthwhile and slipping these to some other company he controls once he knows they are doomed, while leaving taxpayers or other investors to deal with the bankruptcy costs later is equally 'disquieting' for someone asking for our trust to lead the nation and free world.
Lawnewz.com found 169 Federal case since 1983, and has no idea how many suits in other courts. The partial list of Federal cases in the article alone Should have been enough to ban frump from running for Any office. http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/we-investigated-donald-trump-is-named-in-at-least-169-federal-lawsuits/ Smaller legal resource Americans would have been facing felony charges for a number. Many of us will not make in a lifetime what one of his many settlements or fines were to Federal charges. First two on the list: $300,000 cheating of a pension fund by secretly hiring non-union labor, the settlement is 'sealed' but the pension fund wouldn't have settled for less than the damages, with penalties and interest likely if it went to jury. Second was a $750,000 fine by the DoJ for Anti-Trust violations during attempted takeovers of 2 companies. And this guy has the working American's BACK? Their wallet more likely.
Gretta, we know you can read. At least, the donald's press releases, and TASS articles. Time to complete the circle and read what everyhonest journalist has found by digging into the public records of Trump businesses and legal proceedings. It's called a net link. Seen in articles as a distinct type or color, with http: or www. at the first. When you hover your cursor over the 'link' and left click your mouse, a New Page appears, with new information. If you only read what this century's major sociopaths put out, you'll be like the followers of Hitler and Goebbels, or those who drank the KoolAid in Guiana, normal looking brains, who are blind to the world outside what is hand fed propaganda. And your posts will continue to be some of the most naive schoolgirl musings on any site.
For Trump's actual position in NYC, the acid test of any 'success', the Big Apple being the financial center of not just the USA but one of a handful of financial centers on the planet: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/nyregion/donald-trump-nyc.html?_r=0
Trump's comparative success in business barely registers over 30 years compared to actual successes: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/nyregion/donald-trump-nyc.html?_r=0

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/8/2016 4:28:28 AM   
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... you have to get your fingers messy and clean off your face...to get the full experience.


So true - about so many things.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/9/2016 3:16:00 AM   
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"NOBODY in the history of the USA who has run for president has been in court as many times as Frump. 3,500 times in the last 10 years. 1,300 of these as defendant. That's 2 a WEEK! The history of his simple decisions to Not pay bills or employees their due is astounding. "

So you read the court transcripts and made that judgement ?

"His stripping projects of anything worthwhile and slipping these to some other company he controls once he knows they are doomed"

I would do the same thing. Fuck yeah, losing the building whatever, move the machines out. Things like that.

And according to your numbers he is suing over twice as much as he is getting sued.

This shit proves nothing. This is nothing that Clinton, or Bush, or even FDR wouldn't do in business. You are at work to make money.

I am not excusing it, I am just saying that it is how business is run now. Remember Romney ? A corporate scrapman. Romney the wrecker. Sell the machines, everything but wait, I need to call my banker and get a huge loan on the place. Where did I get this ? I am not really sure. I might have to look some shit up.

Still, I am not saying he is a good businessman. But then can I say I would have done better ? Could you ? (all) Of all the things to do, I am not impressed that he took up to resort type of shit, real estate, well you know. But if you were born into that particular amount of money that year, what would be your suggestion for better investments ?

Personally I would have been an industrialist. Back then people had some brains and you could teach them how to read a micrometer and all that. Today they can't read a ruler, even a metric one. If you say "Seven thirty-seconds" you get this blank stare.

You can scare up a good engineering team and some skilled workers, enough for a small enterprise. But if you want mass production your employees are going to have a long drive, and I mean if you are in Detroit.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/10/2016 6:34:11 PM   
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If this guy can do it. http://cheezburger.com/6139321600 so can he.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/10/2016 7:10:52 PM   
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You know, reality in life is, connections you have can make a huge difference but do you cash in on the those connections? Not everybody can. A rich kid can have all the best connections, but IF he does not work hard and focus on growing his wealth and spend his time squandering it all away and having fun. Having those connections will be no use. And he will lose the respect of his connections too and find himself that nobody is willing to help him along later.

A street smart poor, or a crazily ambitious poor kid, will try to make his way into the right circles, befriend the ones that are important. Let me tell you, a poor kid can plan to do this as simple as start befriending his rich friends in school, hang out at their place, get to know their parents as children, create a relationship, create a bond, and then basically when he starts out working in life, he already have all the connections at hand to get him somewhere and sail through quite smoothly, because he has got favourtism, the right help, and he had a plan to surround himself with the right people to get there.

I've known poor kids who have done this. Building the right connections is important. Especially if you are a business starter, you need these relations to convince people with money to invest in your business. When you are poor, you need to use other people's money to start. And this was the old school way of how poor kids become rich too. These days, you got crowd funding, and you can literally get money from strangers from the internet to start your own business if you convince them, you are the right investment.

Or a poor kid can also just stand at the sidelines and decide, his horribly disadvantage and feel bad about it, but never thinking about solutions on what he can do to get out of it. A rich kid may just feel, he has enough money to never work, why work? And just drain or live on his entire inheritance without adding value to the world.

So to me, I don't understand all these belittling of his achievements. Rich or Poor, being rich doesn't mean you can stay rich unless you know how to manage your money and make it grow, as inherited wealth is not infinite. And Being poor doesn't mean getting rich is impossible.

But it's all up to individuals how they wanna achieve what they want. I think Trump works very hard for a pampered rich kid.


Of course you do timmy.
Where did your fake pidgin lingo go?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/10/2016 7:22:03 PM   
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How does he managed to live this long

Seventy is not a long time.


and be healthy when his been showing us his horrible diet of MacDonalds and KFC constantly!

Why do you think he is healthy

What miracle drug is he on that is negating the bad effects of fast food?

And the energy he has for eating junk all the time is amazing!

Maybe he is packing his nose? Maybe we should drug test all political candidates.
You are not only stupid but blind. The piece of shit could pass for a man twice his age.
Why do you think an overweight,jowley cheeked pile of lard is healthy?
Why do you think 30% body fat is healthy?
Why do you think blood pressure above 160/90 is healthy?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/10/2016 7:25:29 PM   
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Why shouldn't they be taken in by him ? There are plenty on here who were taken in by Thompson and Awareness for a while *smile*.


I do not know what you have up your ass mate but how about you spill it?

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/11/2016 12:10:59 AM   
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Yeah, someone should shit on you.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/11/2016 1:12:09 AM   
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Seventy is not a long time.

If eating MacDonalds and KFC can help me live till 70 yr old, why the hell am I refraining from it? Ha! Damn! I do love junk food too!

70 is damn long to me! I would like to live till 55 or 60, then I think good enough. Very happy already. 50 is okay too.





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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/13/2016 5:47:53 AM   
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There appears to be 3 options:
1. His party declare him mental of the head - which he is..yet they will not do it - why? who knows.
2. He quits - well he is no man so this will not happen. Convincing a deranged halfwit madman to step aside
3. Denounce him and sit this one out - 3rd term

Some conservatives are holding out hope that an obscure Republican National Committee manoeuvre could rid them of Mr Trump as the nominee. The theory is the RNC could declare Mr Trump "not of sound mind" and remove him under the aforementioned Rule Nine, which caters for a candidate being incapacitated by an ailment like a stroke.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37040360



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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/13/2016 5:52:42 AM   
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The problem with "not of sound mind" thing is that the circus peanut is no madder now than he was when he started chasing the nomination last year. Unless he has some sort of colossal breakdown onstage, the line would surely be that if he was batshit when he was nominated, he's not too batshit to pursue the Presidency...

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/13/2016 6:01:24 AM   
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Sorry whore mods I accidentally posted that last comment on the wrong thread...i will post it in the correct thread Just ignore my last comment apologies.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/13/2016 7:25:52 AM   
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Ah trump...see I can post on the right thread...well most of the time...well i did accidentally put this one to the top of the pile so best I contribute correctly

I have a few theories, come hither, and I will share them

1. My all time fav clip, ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BO_hqe_q0 Innocence-loneliness, or humanity are the monsters..vexing clip that one.
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPiu4QmJyWs I am monster, I aspire to become better then creEAtor and so on
strange how both clips involve Frankenstein monsters

and followers of my mad rambles will know I have hypothesised he is a Nazi experiment, from a secret lab in Antarctica run amok: between billy the half wit goats, quarter wit brother and a turnip, long gone with the blight

I think he is the reanimated dead, minus brain of course - I think they could not find one and substituted it with a mad squirrels long gone with syphilis and therefore quite mad.....actually it looks like someone is controlling him with strings someone post links - I am not doing it all the time..and all I am doing today are music, futurama and game of thrones


He reminds me of hodol, just with less brains and absolutely no honour and morals, for that is the way of the morally bankrupt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAoShLmdxDE the pack of rampaging hoards i envisage to be the 9 million, or is it 12 million, who voted for creature.




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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/21/2016 3:09:42 PM   
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You know, reality in life is, connections you have can make a huge difference but do you cash in on the those connections? Not everybody can. A rich kid can have all the best connections, but IF he does not work hard and focus on growing his wealth and spend his time squandering it all away and having fun. Having those connections will be no use. And he will lose the respect of his connections too and find himself that nobody is willing to help him along later.


How do you know this? Are you a rich kid who's parents pay you to stay away and not embarras them?

A street smart poor, or a crazily ambitious poor kid, will try to make his way into the right circles, befriend the ones that are important. Let me tell you, a poor kid can plan to do this as simple as start befriending his rich friends in school,

How do you befrind" friend?
If you are a poor kid you do not go to school with rich kids.




hang out at their place, get to know their parents as children, create a relationship, create a bond, and then basically when he starts out working in life, he already have all the connections at hand to get him somewhere and sail through quite smoothly, because he has got favourtism, the right help, and he had a plan to surround himself with the right people to get there.

Why would the rich kids parents agree to him hanging out with the poor hustler who is trying to worm his way into their bank account?

I've known poor kids who have done this.


Of course you have


Building the right connections is important. Especially if you are a business starter, you need these relations to convince people with money to invest in your business. When you are poor, you need to use other people's money to start. And this was the old school way of how poor kids become rich too.


Perhaps you could list for us how many of the 1000 richest people in the world were poor while growing up.


These days, you got crowd funding, and you can literally get money from strangers from the internet to start your own business if you convince them, you are the right investment.


The strangers will only give you money if you have demonstrated that your product will work at the price point stated.

Or a poor kid can also just stand at the sidelines and decide, his horribly disadvantage and feel bad about it, but never thinking about solutions on what he can do to get out of it.


This would be opinion devoid of fact.



A rich kid may just feel, he has enough money to never work, why work? And just drain or live on his entire inheritance without adding value to the world.


What value have you added to the world?

So to me, I don't understand all these belittling of his achievements.

He has no achievements. He has his family's money and his family's connections. He has multiple bankruptsies, multiple failed marriages, multiple losses in court.



Rich or Poor, being rich doesn't mean you can stay rich unless you know how to manage your money and make it grow, as inherited wealth is not infinite. And Being poor doesn't mean getting rich is impossible.


If this platitude had any merit you would be able to show with some citation this economic mobility in both directions.

But it's all up to individuals how they wanna achieve what they want. I think Trump works very hard for a pampered rich kid.


It is obvious that you do not think.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/21/2016 3:13:11 PM   
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Yeah, someone should shit on you.


Your mom said you like being shit upon but I thought she was just making a joke.
You may enjoy it and this is a kink site in which we refrain from bashing other's kinks. I will pass on the offer but if that is your kink then more power to you.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/21/2016 3:31:10 PM   
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If eating MacDonalds and KFC can help me live till 70 yr old, why the hell am I refraining from it? Ha! Damn! I do love junk food too!





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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/23/2016 2:25:31 AM   
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How does he managed to live this long and be healthy when his been showing us his horrible diet of MacDonalds and KFC constantly!

What miracle drug is he on that is negating the bad effects of fast food?

And the energy he has for eating junk all the time is amazing!



Have you ever actually looked at his face?

Good gosh, that is so gross.

I'm almost as old as Trump, and look 25-30 years younger, easily.

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RE: What I would like to know about Trump is - 8/23/2016 2:40:29 AM   
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And I even ate and drank the most stupid crap in the world, at the time.

You actually can get back up to speed if you get a juicer and a blender and get out on the bike 2-3 times a week.

I can even eat total crap 5-7 times a year, and women actually smile sometimes, as opposed to absolutely cringing and pushing their arms out when they see Trump.

Honestly, I've never come upon a woman in my life who didn't instantly go "Ugh!" when seeing Trump's face.

Not going to put down those who went after it, though. Some slice of a few hundred million is something we cannot judge another for going after.

Guys have been guilty of 'diving for dollars' even worse than Trump wives.


Basis of history, to be honest.





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