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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 6:29:24 PM   
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if you ride through milwaukee its damn near as bad as riding through detroit. you can hardly go a block without seeing one or 2 businesses boarded up. place looks like a 3rd world banana republic but with a little better paint job.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 6:32:25 PM   
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if you ride through milwaukee its damn near as bad as riding through detroit. you can hardly go a block without seeing one or 2 businesses boarded up. place looks like a 3rd world banana republic but with a little better paint job.


As many urban and rural areas these days, but hey everything is okay.

Move along, nothing to see here.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 7:38:43 PM   
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Then you only acknowlege those things that fit your view. Having spent most of my life around cops I know that your view is wrong.

Not exactly. I readily acknowledge that there are some cops trying to do their job. I understand they do that within a system which is entirely corrupt has lost it's way and purpose nearly entirely. I've had various run-ins with cops... most just fine... two much less than fine.

My issue is not that every cop is bad or that all situations involving cops imply police wrongdoing. Rather, what you're seeing is my reaction to the cover-ups when they occur. I want that stopped. I'm willing to bring as much scrutiny and pressure to the situation as I need to.

The thing I fear much more than a "bad guy with a gun" is "a bad guy with a gun and a badge".

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:03:59 PM   
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If someone is pointing a gun in your general direction I doubt that you will quible over a couple degrees off directly at you.
And he didn't point the gun in the direction of the cop because of your imagined Apartheid, he did it to scare the cop into not chasing him secure in the knowlege that the cop wouldn't dare shooting due to his parinoid fear that there would be a riot if he did. Maybe you should experiance Apartheid before you accuse America of practicing it, or yet go someplace where they treat blacks correctly.

You silly sod! I made no quibble about how many degrees were involved in the direction the gun was pointed. I clearly said if the kid turned toward the cop and had the gun in his hand, the cop was justified.

How do you know why the kid pointed the gun at the cop (if he did)? Were you reading his mind? All the way from Alabama? What an amazing dude you are. And how do you anticipate what the kid thought the cop would do? You must have some freak psychic abilities.

American apartheid is all around us. American blacks live in pockets of inner cities away from the industrial parks that fled to the suburbs many years ago. Apartheid means socially separated. I suggest you get up off your ass from your little farm community and visit the major northern cities. Educate yourself.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:17:56 PM   
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Then you only acknowlege those things that fit your view. Having spent most of my life around cops I know that your view is wrong.

Not exactly. I readily acknowledge that there are some cops trying to do their job. I understand they do that within a system which is entirely corrupt has lost it's way and purpose nearly entirely. I've had various run-ins with cops... most just fine... two much less than fine.

My issue is not that every cop is bad or that all situations involving cops imply police wrongdoing. Rather, what you're seeing is my reaction to the cover-ups when they occur. I want that stopped. I'm willing to bring as much scrutiny and pressure to the situation as I need to.

The thing I fear much more than a "bad guy with a gun" is "a bad guy with a gun and a badge".

Not some cops, the vast majority of them.
And they try to weed out the bad ones as fast a possible.
You don't hear about the vast majority of the time when they do this because they get rid of them before they do something the public cares about.
As far as there being a lot of coverups that is also wrong.
In Baltimore there was no coverup, there was a rogue prosecutor who grossly over charged.
In the Gardner case there was no coverup, again a rogue prosector who again grossly over charged and got nothing.
This happens time after time, and what happens? BLM and some of the press pretends that the charges were correct and the cops covered it up.
Then when the next thing comes up everyone forgets that it wasn't a coverup, or that the prosecutor overcharged. They just remember the cop "got away with murder" .
Then you say you are not assuming the cop is guilty but that you always assume the cops are lying. If they are lying when they say they aren't guilty of anything what does that leave?


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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:31:15 PM   
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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:48:37 PM   
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Then you say you are not assuming the cop is guilty but that you always assume the cops are lying. If they are lying when they say they aren't guilty of anything what does that leave?


Police in South Carolina have fired their weapons at 209 suspects in the past five years, and a handful of officers have been accused of pulling the trigger illegally – but none has being convicted, according to an analysis by The State newspaper.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:53:06 PM   
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Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.


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Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.


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Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.


Unemployment basically 20%, many disenfranchised there.
Vincent, do you ever wonder why the media doesn't focus more on these pockets of society, where 1 in 4 are unable to find employment?
They showed us a short video at work today, about a teenager recently released from jail.
He and his mother were in tears, he was selling drugs to help mom pay the rent at 16.
The counselor asked how they could help him.
He asked through his tears if they could help him find a job.
So many untold stories about this economy these days.


I am afraid that whites don't want to know as long as it is not in their backyards . . . or, in the alternative, they victim blame.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 8:57:21 PM   
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"A goo step toward improving community-police relations would be to stop pointing guns at them. "

Most people do that because they got a reason, like they are stealing something or whatever.

However, when they do wrong there is only one recourse.

Such as it is, so shall it be.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 9:11:13 PM   
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Then you say you are not assuming the cop is guilty but that you always assume the cops are lying. If they are lying when they say they aren't guilty of anything what does that leave?


Police in South Carolina have fired their weapons at 209 suspects in the past five years, and a handful of officers have been accused of pulling the trigger illegally – but none has being convicted, according to an analysis by The State newspaper.

And the fact that they were accused proves their guilt.
This guy, with proof that the guy pointed a gun at him is facing demands that he be charged.
With todays environment I wouldn't be surprised if the cop who shot the guy in Orlando had been accused of using his weapon illegally.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 10:35:40 PM   
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the fact the victim is dead proves his guilt.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 10:39:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.


source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.


source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.


Unemployment basically 20%, many disenfranchised there.
Vincent, do you ever wonder why the media doesn't focus more on these pockets of society, where 1 in 4 are unable to find employment?
They showed us a short video at work today, about a teenager recently released from jail.
He and his mother were in tears, he was selling drugs to help mom pay the rent at 16.
The counselor asked how they could help him.
He asked through his tears if they could help him find a job.
So many untold stories about this economy these days.


I am afraid that whites don't want to know as long as it is not in their backyards . . . or, in the alternative, they victim blame.



there is no end to the problems with the system. these cams need to be uploaded to a second repository literaly minutes of the event to be valid to insure no tampering. this we will release the video in 6 months is bullshit.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/15/2016 11:08:20 PM   
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fr

A Milwaukee pastor says the lack of jobs and economic opportunities for black residents is to blame for violent protests that rocked the city following a police shooting.

Pakhar Singh's BP station was set afire as protesters skirmished with police, and firefighters could not approach it because of gunshots.

“The individual did turn toward the officer with a firearm in his hand,” said Flynn, later adding that Smith “was raising up with” the gun.

Flynn said he had viewed the body camera footage, which had not yet been released to the public. The entire incident lasted 20-25 seconds in Flynn’s estimation. While the camera captures the shooting there is no sound of the critical moments because Milwaukee police body cameras do not begin recording audio for 30 seconds, Flynn said.

“That still photo demonstrates without question that [Smith] had a gun in his hand, and I want our community to know that,” Barrett said.

While there were no reports of police officers using force, Flynn said, four officers were injured. Three were struck by concrete and another by flying glass. One of those struck by concrete was a female officer who sustained a concussion and had a laceration that required seven stitches. All of the officers were treated and released from the hospital. Seven squad cars were damaged and a department BearCat was hit by eight gunshots – two to the vehicle’s windshield.

Flynn said the city’s ShotSpotter system recorded 48 instances of gunfire.



from several sources, what I am waiting to see is that video like every other video in cases like these is going to be so fuzzy that you cant tell if its a gun or a smudge that someone edited in.

since when do news reporters have right to view the footage and we do not?



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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 12:39:32 AM   
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If someone is pointing a gun in your general direction I doubt that you will quible over a couple degrees off directly at you.
And he didn't point the gun in the direction of the cop because of your imagined Apartheid, he did it to scare the cop into not chasing him secure in the knowlege that the cop wouldn't dare shooting due to his parinoid fear that there would be a riot if he did. Maybe you should experiance Apartheid before you accuse America of practicing it, or yet go someplace where they treat blacks correctly.

You silly sod! I made no quibble about how many degrees were involved in the direction the gun was pointed. I clearly said if the kid turned toward the cop and had the gun in his hand, the cop was justified.

How do you know why the kid pointed the gun at the cop (if he did)? Were you reading his mind? All the way from Alabama? What an amazing dude you are. And how do you anticipate what the kid thought the cop would do? You must have some freak psychic abilities.

American apartheid is all around us. American blacks live in pockets of inner cities away from the industrial parks that fled to the suburbs many years ago. Apartheid means socially separated. I suggest you get up off your ass from your little farm community and visit the major northern cities. Educate yourself.

Seems like everyone but you and I has seen the body came footage, and he did point it at the cop.
I don't think the cop would, or should, care what his motivation was, in the middle of a confrontation when someone points a gun at you it is safe to assume his intentions are not the best in the world.
Three forths, or more, of my neighborhood is black, so I don't see any seperation.
Aparthied in enforced not only is it not enforced but the practice of redlining is against the law.
In my whole life (and I have lived in 6 states including both coasts) I have only lived in one neighborhood that wasn't integrated and that was 50 years ago. And as soon as we could aford it we moved to another part of town. I am sure that neighborhood is integrated by now.
You need to educate yourself, not only have we never practiced apartheid we got rid of jim crow decades ago.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 12:41:59 AM   
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the fact the victim is dead proves his guilt.

No, but him pointing the gun at the cop is a good reason to suspect his guilt.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 7:34:03 AM   
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the fact the victim is dead proves his guilt.

No, but him pointing the gun at the cop is a good reason to suspect his guilt.

The last report I saw said that the officer's body camera showed that the fleeing suspect turned with a gun in his hand and started to bring the weapon up to bear. I don't know whether he got it up far enough to be actually pointed at the officer, but I do know that nobody in their right mind could be reasonably expected to let him get that far.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 7:53:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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the fact the victim is dead proves his guilt.

No, but him pointing the gun at the cop is a good reason to suspect his guilt.

The last report I saw said that the officer's body camera showed that the fleeing suspect turned with a gun in his hand and started to bring the weapon up to bear. I don't know whether he got it up far enough to be actually pointed at the officer, but I do know that nobody in their right mind could be reasonably expected to let him get that far.

K.


Exactly.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 8:22:27 AM   
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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.


Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 8:29:58 AM   
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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.


Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

School yourself, N. Let Google be your guide. Then come back and explain how neo-liberalism has not been the prevailing economic/political policy of the national and state governments since the administration of President Trickle-Down. Way to stay ignorant, N.

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RE: Milwaukee Burning - 8/16/2016 9:01:28 AM   
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Three forths, or more, of my neighborhood is black, so I don't see any seperation.

omg, where to begin. Let's start with the riot in Ferguson.

Protests that spark rioting have rarely started in suburbia and have almost always begun in major central cities, such as in Detroit (1967), Washington (1968) and Los Angeles (1992).

But in 2014, America’s suburban landscape has clearly changed.

“[It] isn’t a St. Louis ghetto,” segregation expert John Logan said of Ferguson, a suburb with about 21,000 people, more than two-thirds of them African-American. “It’s out in the suburbs, and it’s not the worst neighborhood, so why are people so steamed up?” Logan asked. “There is a high degree of segregation and steering in the housing market and divisions across racial lines.”

Logan, a Brown University sociologist, shows just how deep the divisions are in a new report, “Separate and Unequal in Suburbia,” out Wednesday.

He found that, despite a decline in racial segregation and improvements in incomes marked by the rise of the black middle class, blacks and Hispanics continue to live in the least desirable neighborhoods — even when they can afford better — and their children attend the lowest-performing schools.

[BIG SNIP]

“Of course, the civil rights movement is long gone, but segregation persists,” and America has continued to isolate poor black people in economically depressed neighborhoods under increasingly oppressive police tactics that breed distrust and hostility, he said.

“Thirty years ago, it would’ve been in the city of St. Louis, but blacks moved out of St. Louis to this place [Ferguson], and whites fled,” Anderson said. “The ghetto has moved to the suburbs. It’s happening to many places in the country.”

St. Louis’ suburban ring is the fourth-most-segregated in the nation, tied with the Nassau-Suffolk area, east of New York City. (Only Newark, New Jersey; Miami; and Cleveland are ranked higher.) And segregation has not declined by much in 30 years, according to Logan’s report for the US2010 Project, which examines changes in American society.


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In a report published today, 8/16/2016 in Education Week

Nationwide, low-income black children's isolation has increased. It's a problem not only of poverty but of race. Roughly 40 percent of black students attend schools that are more than 90 percent minority, up from 34 percent 20 years ago. Then, black students typically attended schools where 40 percent were low-income; it's now 60 percent.

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So yeah, you're right. Blacks have moved to the ring suburbs, but they still remain highly segregated. More so than ever.

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