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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 1:09:28 PM

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However, one factor that appears to be making a large dent in the ratings and continuing to grow is the backlash resulting from the 49ers’ Colin Kaepernick sitting or kneeling during the national anthem

Here is another possibility to consider. Market forces are at work. Greed is a clue. The NFL has scheduled games as usual on Sunday and on three nights each week. They have three preseason games and are trying to expand into the UK. There has been talk of expanding the schedule to eighteen games.

Saturday television is saturated with college football.

Is it possible that the market has topped out? I think it is. Just like the Tech market popped in 2000, and the Housing market popped in 2008. Markets do not keep going higher forever. It may be that the players are overpaid, the franchises are over-valued, and the television contracts (and advertising) are at a high. Notice also that the Leagues and Networks like ESPN are cooperating in the sly gambling called "fantasy football" which is an attempt to hold the interest of fans.

Yup, we may be witnessing a slow market crash in saturated, televised football. Time for another player lockout.

I think considering market forces makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than connecting up to Kaepernick, which has the ring of an urban legend to it.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 2:57:18 PM

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Yep the market has topped out, That is why, going into today, 3 NFL games have had higher ratings than their comprable games last season.
All three were betwen teams that had no participants in the protest.
Can't wait to hear the what if's , maybes , and could bes that excuse this.

While you guys are at it explain why with the satureation of coverage college ball hasn't lost viewers?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 3:00:49 PM

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My comment wasn't about my feelings, but the law, to begin with.

My, are you daft.

I will say, though, that my ex girlfriend from Oz (she was a sweetie, but we lived too far apart and were not quite in love or anything) said that she would never go back to her homeland ... because of the 'men' there.

She absolutely loves North Carolina, BTW. That might have something to do with it also.

I'm incredibly amused that you need to trot out validation from a mythical ex-girlfriend in an internet argument to try and bolster your credibility.

You pussies never really understand how you're so transparent.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 3:10:24 PM

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Yep the market has topped out, That is why, going into today, 3 NFL games have had higher ratings than their comprable games last season.
All three were betwen teams that had no participants in the protest.
Can't wait to hear the what if's , maybes , and could bes that excuse this.

While you guys are at it explain why with the satureation of coverage college ball hasn't lost viewers?

Make up your fucking mind. It is you who said TV viewership is down.

You are the one who offered it was due to fan reaction to CK.

And btw stadium attendance has been flat since 2008. Google it.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 3:20:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Yep the market has topped out, That is why, going into today, 3 NFL games have had higher ratings than their comprable games last season.
All three were betwen teams that had no participants in the protest.
Can't wait to hear the what if's , maybes , and could bes that excuse this.

While you guys are at it explain why with the satureation of coverage college ball hasn't lost viewers?

Make up your fucking mind. It is you who said TV viewership is down.

You are the one who offered it was due to fan reaction to CK.

And btw stadium attendance has been flat since 2008. Google it.

Read.
A The NFL ratings are way down from last year.
B There are 3 individual games that buck this trend.
C All 3 games had two teams not participating in the protests.
D College ratings are holding even.
E Flat ratings are not the same as the huge rating drop we have seen this year.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 3:41:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

My comment wasn't about my feelings, but the law, to begin with.

My, are you daft.

I will say, though, that my ex girlfriend from Oz (she was a sweetie, but we lived too far apart and were not quite in love or anything) said that she would never go back to her homeland ... because of the 'men' there.

She absolutely loves North Carolina, BTW. That might have something to do with it also.

I'm incredibly amused that you need to trot out validation from a mythical ex-girlfriend in an internet argument to try and bolster your credibility.

You pussies never really understand how you're so transparent.

Oh my, this from someone who's never held on to potential girlfriend for more than two minutes in his life.

And boy are you terminally pissed off by that.

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I learned the term "car park" five years before the internet came along.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 3:53:56 PM

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Read.
A The NFL ratings are way down from last year.
B There are 3 individual games that buck this trend.
C All 3 games had two teams not participating in the protests.
D College ratings are holding even.
E Flat ratings are not the same as the huge rating drop we have seen this year.

WTF? Give us the links.... ffs

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/9/2016 11:03:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
Oh my, this from someone who's never held on to potential girlfriend for more than two minutes in his life.

Dude, you're really not the full quid, are you. You're making a claim which you could never prove about a subject you know nothing about.

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And boy are you terminally pissed off by that.

By your stupidity? No, the most appropriate word is "bemused".

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PS

PS? You're not writing a letter you blithering idiot.

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I learned the term "car park" five years before the internet came along.

Oh, I see. You're completely barking mad.

What the fuck are you babbling about a car park for? Did you misplace your meds or something?

The Internet, you poor lad, has been around in one form or another since the 60's, with ready availability in academia in the 80's. You might be suffering from senility, but I doubt you're that old.

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-Proof-

- that you're bugfuck crazy, yes.

Wow, you are so very fucked in the head.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 12:45:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
You're making a claim which you could never prove about a subject you know nothing about.

Like this, you mean?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

a mythical ex-girlfriend in an internet argument

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 12:50:03 AM

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If you ever made a post that consisted of anything less than 90% completely made up shit, it would be a first.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 9:23:54 AM

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Boy, that's called a conversational gambit. I'll explain how this works.

I drop in an oblique insult. Your reaction to that insult tells me how effective it is.

You comprehensively losing your shit and babbling complete frothing nonsense tells me I was right on target.

Christ, you really are a babe in the woods. How old are you? 12?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 10:34:40 AM

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Read.
A The NFL ratings are way down from last year.
B There are 3 individual games that buck this trend.
C All 3 games had two teams not participating in the protests.
D College ratings are holding even.
E Flat ratings are not the same as the huge rating drop we have seen this year.

Anyone who has a modicum of knowledge about statistics knows that sample size is important. In this case the sample size is ridiculously small. You cannot project a trend from this small group of events and you cannot show cause and effect back to CK.

A & E . . . no, they are not. Eleven percent is not huge. Most of that was night games up against Presidential election debates, rallies, and news. Day game TV viewing was down only 2-3%

B & C . . . Lets just look at the first three weeks. Sixteen games each week so 48 games total. So three individual games had teams untouched by the CK factor. Three games is only 1.44% of the total. Look at that number: 1.44% proves nothing, no cause and effect, no correlation, nothing, nada, zip, zilch. You don't know what you are talking about.

D . . . college games were not up against presidential debates. And, you are just making shit up without any numbers.

E . . . I didn't say ratings were flat; I said game attendance was flat between 2008 and 2015 at about 17 million three hundred thousand. Look it up. The NFL is not building their fan base. That's why they are talking of an 18 game season.

The TV rights contracts are not up for renewal until 2022 so we shall have to wait and see their future value. However, the contracts between Broadcasters and Advertisers are not locked in, so the Broadcasters are in jeopardy of losing income.

Here is an article from September 2015 that suggests that TV ratings overall were falling.

Ad Age also noted that among millennial consumers (18-to-24-year-olds), viewing is down 20% against last year, with 24% fewer men in this age group watching TV. The number of 18-to-34-year-old men watching TV is down 18% compared to the same period last year.

Over the summer, there was a broad concern regarding cable companies and a loss of subscribers to services like Netflix and Hulu.

And a report from Wall Street analysts over the summer said TV networks were stuffing their airwaves with commercials in an attempt to prop up revenue. That report said ratings were down 9% over the prior year through July with ad loads correspondingly increasing by 10%.

So, an industry wide slowdown is not out of the question. Why should televised sports be immune from the effects of a stalled economy? Short answer: they are not.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 6:43:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Boy, that's called a conversational gambit.

Oh, is it, now?

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I'll explain how this works.

Oh boy, we know this is going to be good.

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I drop in an oblique insult. Your reaction to that insult tells me how effective it is.

Your stating a patently idiotic thing, then someone pointing out how FOS you are, got it. Moving on ...

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You comprehensively losing your shit and babbling complete frothing nonsense tells me I was right on target.

OK, you might have something there. Perhaps I should have been less comprehensive. Unlike you, though, I don't have to seek a second party to know where my own poop went. #notlost Doesn't escape the fact you were at least ten feet wide to the side with your floppy dart. Not exactly 'on target.'

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Christ, you really are a babe in the woods.

You too? So many people tell me how young I look for my age, mostly the ladies.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/10/2016 7:24:21 PM

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It's not the way you look dude, it's the way you behave. I'd say you're 14. It shows.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 12:25:50 AM

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Uncanny how you mentioned that age in particular. Being that your persona so matches men who came onto me at that time. They didn't like "NO" either.

It's more understandable now why you are so pissed off all the time.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 5:25:51 AM

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Boy, that's called a conversational gambit.

Actually it is you being a rude punkassmotherfucker and thinking it is ok. It ain't and you get your passive aggressive attitude stuffed up your ass on a regular bassis.

I'll explain how this works.

You coud not explain how to pour piss out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heal and a spigot on the toe.

I drop in an oblique insult. Your reaction to that insult tells me how effective it is.

Actually it indicates whether you think you can continue to be rude without repercussions.

You comprehensively losing your shit and babbling complete frothing nonsense tells me I was right on target.

So I am clearly on target because rather than enter into deiscussion with me your go to response is >>>>"you are arpig.
Roflmfao.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 12:41:03 PM

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Uncanny how you mentioned that age in particular. Being that your persona so matches men who came onto me at that time. They didn't like "NO" either.

It's more understandable now why you are so pissed off all the time.

Oh, so now - in addition to claiming you're a chick magnet - you're now telling us you're a paedophile-magnet as well. Given those two groups are pretty much attracted to diametrically opposite things, I'd have to say this is further evidence that you're both full of shit and stupid. That's not even a remotely credible claim.

If this is your way of confessing to your teen experiments with gay sex, then by all means unburden yourself. It seems like an odd place to do it, but go right ahead. I'm sure your pathologies are interesting to someone. Somewhere.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 1:32:53 PM

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Read.
A The NFL ratings are way down from last year.
B There are 3 individual games that buck this trend.
C All 3 games had two teams not participating in the protests.
D College ratings are holding even.
E Flat ratings are not the same as the huge rating drop we have seen this year.

Anyone who has a modicum of knowledge about statistics knows that sample size is important. In this case the sample size is ridiculously small. You cannot project a trend from this small group of events and you cannot show cause and effect back to CK.

A & E . . . no, they are not. Eleven percent is not huge. Most of that was night games up against Presidential election debates, rallies, and news. Day game TV viewing was down only 2-3%

B & C . . . Lets just look at the first three weeks. Sixteen games each week so 48 games total. So three individual games had teams untouched by the CK factor. Three games is only 1.44% of the total. Look at that number: 1.44% proves nothing, no cause and effect, no correlation, nothing, nada, zip, zilch. You don't know what you are talking about.

D . . . college games were not up against presidential debates. And, you are just making shit up without any numbers.

E . . . I didn't say ratings were flat; I said game attendance was flat between 2008 and 2015 at about 17 million three hundred thousand. Look it up. The NFL is not building their fan base. That's why they are talking of an 18 game season.

The TV rights contracts are not up for renewal until 2022 so we shall have to wait and see their future value. However, the contracts between Broadcasters and Advertisers are not locked in, so the Broadcasters are in jeopardy of losing income.

Here is an article from September 2015 that suggests that TV ratings overall were falling.

Ad Age also noted that among millennial consumers (18-to-24-year-olds), viewing is down 20% against last year, with 24% fewer men in this age group watching TV. The number of 18-to-34-year-old men watching TV is down 18% compared to the same period last year.

Over the summer, there was a broad concern regarding cable companies and a loss of subscribers to services like Netflix and Hulu.

And a report from Wall Street analysts over the summer said TV networks were stuffing their airwaves with commercials in an attempt to prop up revenue. That report said ratings were down 9% over the prior year through July with ad loads correspondingly increasing by 10%.

So, an industry wide slowdown is not out of the question. Why should televised sports be immune from the effects of a stalled economy? Short answer: they are not.

And here I thought the economy was going great thanks to Obama.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 1:46:46 PM

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Uncanny how you mentioned that age in particular. Being that your persona so matches men who came onto me at that time. They didn't like "NO" either.

It's more understandable now why you are so pissed off all the time.

Oh, so now - in addition to claiming you're a chick magnet - you're now telling us you're a paedophile-magnet as well. Given those two groups are pretty much attracted to diametrically opposite things,

It sounded to me like he was challanging your opinion of your sexual orientqtion.
Your rebuttal is straight from shakespear..."me thinks the lady doth protest too much".
Now isn't this your cue to say something like "shut up arpig"?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 10/11/2016 2:32:08 PM

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And here I thought the economy was going great thanks to Obama.

Everything is relevant, innit?

Monthly job losses in January 2009 were in the neighborhood of 900,000.

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