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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 5:58:52 PM

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That an over the top reaction by Israel which is only succeeding in killing innocent civilians and not the terrorists they are supposed to be after should be condemned and pressure put on Israel to stop its offensive.

To the contrary.

The blood of any innocents killed is on the hands of the party which originally placed the innocents at risk.

Hezbollah not only knew of the risk to Lebanon's civilians, but they purposefully use civilians as human shields, knowing that Israel will be blamed for targetting civilians and is preventing Lebanese civilians from fleeing the south.

The blood of the innocents of this war is entirely in the hands of Hezbollah.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:00:22 PM

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Great Argument You can't win so you change countries LOL I love it

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:01:36 PM

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Well when someone brings up anti-semitism you know they don't want an argument but to stop a discussion.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:03:37 PM

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Hey Crockodile We weren't supposed to know that. We were only supposed to know that Isreal is killing those civilians.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:03:41 PM

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That an over the top reaction by Israel which is only succeeding in killing innocent civilians and not the terrorists they are supposed to be after should be condemned and pressure put on Israel to stop its offensive.

To the contrary.

The blood of any innocents killed is on the hands of the party which originally placed the innocents at risk.

Hezbollah not only knew of the risk to Lebanon's civilians, but they purposefully use civilians as human shields, knowing that Israel will be blamed for targetting civilians but is preventing Lebanese civilians from fleeing the south.

The blood of the innocents of this war is entirely in the hands of Hezbollah.

You're being very selective and while I don't care how many Hezzbullah get killed I think it is unacceptable that criminal negligence should kill innocent civilians and about a third of them children!

So tell me, how many troops does it take to kill 100 children?

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:05:40 PM

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Well when someone brings up anti-semitism you know they don't want an argument but to stop a discussion.

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Hey Meatcleaver. I didn't say anything about that

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:06:12 PM

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"Is it right that they have been continuously bombarded, blasted, killed, etc since long before their 1948 independence by the UN. "

Are you kidding ? That was Palestine ! That was not their's, and it was NOT the UN's to give ! WTF are you talking about ?

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:06:15 PM

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I have no desire to end the discussion. By all means, prove to me that you hold the Jews of the Middle East up the same standards as the Muslims of the Middle East. All you have to do is point out to those posts where you denounce Hezbollah and Syria's occupation of Lebanon, slavery in the Sudan, the status of women and religious minorities under Islam, and the abuse of Palestinian refugees in said countries.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:07:03 PM

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Hey meatcleaver How many children does it take to kill a soldier? Bad argument again. Terrorists do use children to kill soldiers.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:09:59 PM

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Hey Terry

Isreal, the current state, not the one created by Moses was created by UN Mandate in 1948. Before that it was a British protectorate. As soon as the british pulled out the arab world attacked isreal. before that they were just taking pot shots.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:11:07 PM

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Actually, Temyn8or, many of the Jewish areas of modern day Israel were already legally purchased property by the Jewish National Fund. It did not belong to the Palestinians, as a matter of fact, in 1948 there were no people called Palestinians, it was an adjective attributed to anyone who lived in the region. And the territory was mandated to Britain, which then returned it to the UN.

Another convinient fact the left chooses to ignore is that the whole of historic Palestine is actually comprised of modern day Jordan, Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. In 1923 the British divided Palestine to accomodate both populations, the eastern half, which became Transjordan, was to be Arabic, and the western half Jewish, which kept the name Palestine.

So in fact, a nation for Arabs residing in Palestine was already created in 1923.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:13:31 PM

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I have no desire to end the discussion. By all means, prove to me that you hold the Jews of the Middle East up the same standards as the Muslims of the Middle East. All you have to do is point out to those posts where you denounce Hezbollah and Syria's occupation of Lebanon, slavery in the Sudan, the status of women and religious minorities under Islam, and the abuse of Palestinian refugees in said countries.

You come up with the same hackneyed argument all apologists use.

As I said, I don't care about how many troops or terrorists get killed on either side, they can slaughter each other for all I care. However, I think it is wrong to kill innocent civilians no matter which side of the fence they are on.

Strange though that the side that claims it is more civilised is doing most of the killing of civilians. Strange that the USA and Britain which are leading the war for civilisation are the only two countries not condemning the killing of civilians.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:14:06 PM

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Hey Crock Where did Meatcleaver go?

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:16:53 PM

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You come up with the same hackneyed argument all apologists use.

As I said, I don't care about how many troops or terrorists get killed on either side, they can slaughter each other for all I care. However, I think it is wrong to kill innocent civilians no matter which side of the fence they are on.

Oh, it's wrong to kill innocent civilians, is it? I have yet to see a single post condemning Palestinian suicide bombers or Hizbullah missile attacks. So strange...and yet, so predictable.

KenDckey, he is around here somewhere.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:16:58 PM

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Meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed you. I haven't heard in the Eritrean press (which I read regularly) an outcry against the killing of civilians. Have I missed something?

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:17:30 PM

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Hey Crock Where did Meatcleaver go?

Bed. It's 3.30am here. This is a pointless argument anyway since neither side will convince the other and will just be exchanging rhetoric.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:18:42 PM

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That's like saying "I'm about to say something stupid, but I'm not stupid." Or like "I'm about to eat some fried chicken but I don't eat fried chicken."

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I am going to probably cross the line into anti-Semitism even though I am not an anti-Semite.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:19:04 PM

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It's not pointless at all. Rest assured, my point is not to convince you, I have no desire to convince useful idiots for radical Islam. My point is that any truly neutral or curious reader coming across your posts will be aware of the opposing argument.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:21:01 PM

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You come up with the same hackneyed argument all apologists use.

As I said, I don't care about how many troops or terrorists get killed on either side, they can slaughter each other for all I care. However, I think it is wrong to kill innocent civilians no matter which side of the fence they are on.

Oh, it's wrong to kill innocent civilians, is it? I have yet to see a single post condemning Palestinian suicide bombers or Hizbullah missile attacks. So strange...and yet, so predictable.

KenDckey, he is around here somewhere.

This war probably has little to do with Hezzbullah missile strikes and probably more to do with Israel having a new Perime minister who feels he has to prove he is every bit a hard man as Sharon.

Actually I suggest you read your history. You might learn something. As I have said, no one is calling for the destruction of Israel but for Israel to stop its reckless attacks on civilian targets.

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RE: Does Israel have the RIGHT to deploy over this? - 7/22/2006 6:22:42 PM

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LOL Meat starts it and when the going gets tough he goes to bed? Oh well. BTW Meat I spent 30 months in Eritrea My children are considered African/American because their mother was born in Asmara My Grand daughter is Palestinan because her dad was in the PLO and was from Jordan. The argument that I got from him was that all of us should be killed. Course there was a posting the other day that says most Europeans are related to Mohammed (reported on Yahoo as news). So what the heck. We don't know who we are anyway.

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