quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

The whole issue the the word slut is that it is entirely derogatory towards any woman that does exactly the same as a man, who in turn would be totally congratulated by other men for his behaviour.

quote:

So fuck off with your judgement of Greta. She is doing what Billions of men before her have done, and yet when it's been men it's been just fine and fricking dandy. If she was a guy talking like she does in here you wouldn't bat an eyelid at her. No, she'd just be another one of the dudes chatting it up about the bitches.

quote:

The hypocrisy is amazing, and you know what, still expected in the external realms of society where people just can't grasp the idea that some women can actually fuck just like a man, and treat you all just the way most of you have been treating us women for most of your damn existence. Yet in here you'd think you'd be a bit more enlightened, and rather more evolved.

quote:


Grow the fuck up!

Needles

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

The whole issue the the word slut is that it is entirely derogatory towards any woman that does exactly the same as a man, who in turn would be totally congratulated by other men for his behaviour.

For being sexually successful, yes. For using people, no.

quote:

So fuck off with your judgement of Greta. She is doing what Billions of men before her have done, and yet when it's been men it's been just fine and fricking dandy. If she was a guy talking like she does in here you wouldn't bat an eyelid at her. No, she'd just be another one of the dudes chatting it up about the bitches.

She's not.

quote:

The hypocrisy is amazing, and you know what, still expected in the external realms of society where people just can't grasp the idea that some women can actually fuck just like a man, and treat you all just the way most of you have been treating us women for most of your damn existence. Yet in here you'd think you'd be a bit more enlightened, and rather more evolved.

Oh fuck off. Men and women live in totally different worlds. A man who fucks a lot of women is doing well. A woman who fucks a lot of men is NOT. There are entirely valid reasons why men and women are judged differently.

quote:


Grow the fuck up!

Needles

Now why would you be so defensive about this?

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

This thread kind of sucks.

quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
You just proved my whole damned point. GROW THE HELL UP!

quote:

It's not about having a reason to be so defensive, it's about the fact the people, but men in particular think they have the right to view promiscuous guys as being something to be admired, but a woman doing the same as something low class.

quote:

Yet you all want a woman that fucks you like that! You all want lots of women to fuck, but somehow we're just not supposed to do the same.

quote:

I'll give you a reason for my attitude towards it all as well. It's not me being defensive, it's me being down right angry at the attitude of men like you lot in this tread having a go at Greta for doing exactly what you've all done yourselves. For the fact that given the chance that's exactly what most men would be doing, but you sexist pigs think a woman shouldn't. Fuck right off.

quote:

Since I was 8 years old I've had men trying to fuck me, literally trying to fuck me.

quote:

My playmate told my ex and I the first time we met him in London that he'd never been with anyone that gained so much attention as I do, and he repeated that more than a few times over the six years I saw him after my ex and I split up.

quote:

I've had men tell me they'd be happy to fuck me behind their other halves backs, and behind my partner's back more times than I care to remember like they think they are paying me some sort of damn compliment, and I was the talk of my ex's work place because he was a bus driver, so he got a massive pat on the back for being the one that got me.

quote:

I'm well aware of how many men I could have had sex with over the years, I'm also aware of some that have claimed to as well. You seriously think that men should be the only ones considered 'doing well' if they want lots of sex. Go to hell with your centuries old small mind thinking.

quote:

It's pathetic, and the hypocrisy of it all makes you all weak.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Well clearly we don't want to fuck trannies, so you're not on our radar.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness.

quote:

It's pathetic, and the hypocrisy of it all makes you all weak.

No. Your viewpoint is narrow and you need to look at the world through a larger window.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
You just proved my whole damned point. GROW THE HELL UP!

You're the one throwing a tantrum.

quote:

It's not about having a reason to be so defensive, it's about the fact the people, but men in particular think they have the right to view promiscuous guys as being something to be admired, but a woman doing the same as something low class.

That's correct. We do. In the same way that women feel they have the right to view accomplished men as something to be admired, but unemployed men as worthless pieces of shit without ambition.

quote:

Yet you all want a woman that fucks you like that! You all want lots of women to fuck, but somehow we're just not supposed to do the same.

Men have different requirements for who they fuck versus who they love. Yes.

quote:

I'll give you a reason for my attitude towards it all as well. It's not me being defensive, it's me being down right angry at the attitude of men like you lot in this tread having a go at Greta for doing exactly what you've all done yourselves. For the fact that given the chance that's exactly what most men would be doing, but you sexist pigs think a woman shouldn't. Fuck right off.

Well, for a start, the word "slut" is used more by women than men. OTHER WOMEN police this far more than men do. You're somewhat naive on this point.

Secondly, YOU ARE NOT MEN. You're not held to the standards we are and your life is very different to ours.

quote:

Since I was 8 years old I've had men trying to fuck me, literally trying to fuck me.

So, paedophiles. You think they are somehow representative of the rest of us.

quote:

My playmate told my ex and I the first time we met him in London that he'd never been with anyone that gained so much attention as I do, and he repeated that more than a few times over the six years I saw him after my ex and I split up.

I'm not seeing the relevance to our conversation here. You just appear to be trying to slip in a mention of how desirable you are.

quote:

I've had men tell me they'd be happy to fuck me behind their other halves backs, and behind my partner's back more times than I care to remember like they think they are paying me some sort of damn compliment, and I was the talk of my ex's work place because he was a bus driver, so he got a massive pat on the back for being the one that got me.

Wait... so you mean that men with low-paying jobs who fuck attractive women are considered to have done well? Now why would that be?

quote:

I'm well aware of how many men I could have had sex with over the years, I'm also aware of some that have claimed to as well. You seriously think that men should be the only ones considered 'doing well' if they want lots of sex. Go to hell with your centuries old small mind thinking.

Education time!

Any woman can get laid. Really. The most grotesque wildebeest you can possibly imagine can always find some desperate sod willing to fuck her. A woman having a lot of sex is not an accomplishment. All she has to do is drop her standards.

Because, as women often will complain, "it's not getting sex that's hard, it's getting sex with the right kind of guy that's hard".

In contrast, men have to work at it. Even hot guys can turn women off with a worshipful attitude or lack of masculinity. Men who get laid a lot are attractive to women. Women who get laid a lot... well, they didn't really have to do much except not be particularly fussy.

The female equivalent of the stud is the femme fatale. The woman who gets a lot of guys to fall in love with her. Because getting a desirable guy to fall for you is an accomplishment.

The studs and sluts dichotomy is one I've explained many times over the years and I'm rather tired of women's hypocritical viewpoints on this topic. Sluts are treated with contempt the same way in which guys who fall in love with a lot of women are treated with contempt. Both are easy and nobody respects them.

quote:

It's pathetic, and the hypocrisy of it all makes you all weak.

No. Your viewpoint is narrow and you need to look at the world through a larger window.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness.

quote:

It's pathetic, and the hypocrisy of it all makes you all weak.

No. Your viewpoint is narrow and you need to look at the world through a larger window.

Hypocrisy thy name is Awareness

quote:

ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks

If a man wants sex, all he has to do is join a site and pay a woman for it.
If a man wants to just cuddle, there are sites for that too.
I know one woman who will kiss for $$ per hour.
Holding hands, cuddling, kissing, etc... is all available for a man for a price.

However, don't women want these things too?
Or is it just these activities are overly abundant for women that they don't have to pay for it?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Well clearly we don't want to fuck trannies, so you're not on our radar.

What the actual living fuck? I'm not a transexual. I'm a biological female. Why are you being such an asshole? Fuck you

quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins


Wow, you know what, I've said I've before, and I'm going to say it again; Your chosen screen name is seriously an oxymoron.

Needles

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And for your assertion (that a few have also taken) "What you're doing isn't any different than if you had a black friend who politely told you he didn't appreciated being called a nigger", Greta had admitted that she didn't respond to him at all so the guy had not been told she didn't appreciate the term.
Her exact words in her post were: "BTW, just for context, I haven't even replied him."

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
What you're doing isn't any different than if you had a black friend who politely told you he didn't appreciated being called a nigger, and you then arguing with him "But it's what you ARE. Look here: the dictionary says that it's a term for black people."

I'd disagree with that.

A racial pejorative is essentially an assault on someone's identity as a product of their DNA and is a loaded term used by a social class which enslaved an ethnic identity and taught despite for that identity.

Calling someone a slut is a commentary on their behaviour. We see commentary on behaviour in here all the time. Respectmen is subject to endless reams of abuse for his behaviour and that's considered entirely justified.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

I can see that argument, and I agree that calling somebody on behavior isn't the same as calling somebody on their DNA.

But that still leaves the fact that there's offensive ways, and polite(r) ways to call somebody on their behavior.
I personally don't believe in using language that's deliberately offensive with a person who hasn't provoked such language by they themselves stooping to it first, and I've never seen Greta trow around insulting terms to people. Though her language can be harsh and direct sometimes, she doesn't stoop to name calling.