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"Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls fo... - 11/28/2016 4:22:05 PM

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Mass shooting at Ohio St leas to calls for tighter gun control from all the usual suspects. Only problem was he had a knife, the only one with a gun was the campus cop who stopped him. One of the first to make the call do to what he called a "mass shooting" came from Tim Kaine.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 5:01:03 PM

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At the time he tweeted it...it was an active shooting according to the news. He changed it when more info became available...

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 5:33:45 PM

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10-year-old suspended for making fingers into shape of gun
Dad says he was "goofing off" with friends
Suspension happened under Ohio's "zero-tolerance" policy

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 5:59:38 PM

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/king-3-white-men-shot-6-cops-3-white-men-trial-article-1.2863131
7th november2016
Over this past week, more than any week I can ever remember, the United States is having to face its true demons with white violence, white supremacy and police brutality. While the racist stereotype of American violence continues to be that of a young black man in a hoodie, the reality on the ground simply looks so much different.

Two Iowa police officers were killed early Wednesday in a pair of ambush-style murders. Before the suspect was identified, some people rushed to social media to blame the Black Lives Matter movement. The accused killer turned out to be a Confederate-flag-waving supporter of Donald Trump, white man named Scott Michael Greene. Just a few weeks prior to the shooting, Greene had proudly placed a Trump placard in his front yard. A week before that, he was kicked out of a local high school football game for waving a Confederate flag in the face of black fans.

On Friday, two more police officers were shot outside of St. Louis, Mo. by a 52-year-old white man named Noel Kuebler, Jr. after an armed standoff at the mobile home park where he lived. Unlike the shooting in Iowa, both officers survived.

On Sunday evening in rural Georgia, it happened again. Another angry white man ambushed law enforcement officers. Ralph Elrod, seeing and hearing his black neighbors ride around on 4-wheelers, reportedly decided to leave the house and threaten to kill them. When the neighbors called authorities, Elrod fatally shot one deputy and seriously wounded another, officials said.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 6:08:14 PM

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Wouldn't it have been nice if the many others school killers were forced to use knives instead of AR-15's?

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 6:30:24 PM

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Wouldn't it have been nice if the many others school killers were forced to use knives instead of AR-15's?

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Good thing he had a small car.
Like the gun laws saw to it that this is what happened in France.
ISIS is telling their followers to use knives and cars, I guess they don't want people killed.
As usual this happened in a gun free zone.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 6:42:50 PM

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Yeah, now that's kinda dumb.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 7:22:11 PM

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Yeah, gun free zones are dumb. It is like putting up a sign that says :
"ROB ME, KILL ME" with impunity of course.

Now wait a while ad we'll get reports on how many of these killers were on psyche drugs and couldn't buy a gun anyway under existing law. So the answer is always more laws of course.

I would rather put up a sign says :
"EVERYONE HERE HAS A GUN AND THE PLACE IS ALMOST NEVER EMPTY, TRY IT MOTHERFUCKER".

You guard your money with guns but not your kids. Try to get a bank or diamond exchange, or even a pawn shop to give up their guns and see what happens. Bottom line is that the money is more important than the people. Even soldiers, it is a really bad black eye that there have been shootings at military bases.

Make some more laws for people to break, go ahead. Usually you go to court all but one of the charges are dropped. Which one depends on your lawyer and whatever happened. So you can have ten gun charges against you and only get convicted on one. So make more laws. Fill the jails with law abiding Citizens and then the cops will have nowhere to take the criminals, ad that suits them just fine because later they get another chance to shoot them. When talking real criminals I am all for that. We pay them like a hundred grand a year to shoot people, get busy, just shoot the right people. No more pussyfooting around.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 7:51:36 PM

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Yeah, gun free zones are dumb. It is like putting up a sign that says :
"ROB ME, KILL ME" with impunity of course.

Now wait a while ad we'll get reports on how many of these killers were on psyche drugs and couldn't buy a gun anyway under existing law. So the answer is always more laws of course.

I would rather put up a sign says :
"EVERYONE HERE HAS A GUN AND THE PLACE IS ALMOST NEVER EMPTY, TRY IT MOTHERFUCKER".

You guard your money with guns but not your kids. Try to get a bank or diamond exchange, or even a pawn shop to give up their guns and see what happens. Bottom line is that the money is more important than the people. Even soldiers, it is a really bad black eye that there have been shootings at military bases.

Make some more laws for people to break, go ahead. Usually you go to court all but one of the charges are dropped. Which one depends on your lawyer and whatever happened. So you can have ten gun charges against you and only get convicted on one. So make more laws. Fill the jails with law abiding Citizens and then the cops will have nowhere to take the criminals, ad that suits them just fine because later they get another chance to shoot them. When talking real criminals I am all for that. We pay them like a hundred grand a year to shoot people, get busy, just shoot the right people. No more pussyfooting around.

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And what we have here is a blatant case of the anti-gun crowd having prepared releases and being in such a hurry to release them that they didn't even wait long enough to find out what happened when it turns out the attacker didn't even have a gun. And this group included the man we were just saved from having as VP.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 7:53:46 PM

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Really it's just sad that for gun control or not you all think you can exploit tragedies to use as proof for your political ideologies.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 8:16:49 PM

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Really it's just sad that for gun control or not you all think you can exploit tragedies to use as proof for your political ideologies.

I was pointing out how many people couldn't even wait for the bodies to get cold (although the only fatality was the attacker) to try to take advantage of this for their political gain.
In't it allowed to point out how politicians were doing exactly what you claim I am. Look at my original post, I was talking about how these people were using this for political gain and made fools of themselves.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 8:22:30 PM

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Really it's just sad that for gun control or not you all think you can exploit tragedies to use as proof for your political ideologies.

It's how he rolls.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 9:35:44 PM

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Just goes to show why we need greater control over our borders and vetting for those who come from nations where the ideology is hostile to the western way of life.
Funny how its being labelled a "violent act" by the media - even though the 18yr old who did it is from Somalia and has ties to radicalization....

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 9:45:55 PM

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Just goes to show why we need greater control over our borders and vetting for those who come from nations where the ideology is hostile to the western way of life.
Funny how its being labelled a "violent act" by the media - even though the 18yr old who did it is from Somalia and has ties to radicalization....

It isn't radical Islam unless he has a note from ISIS. Having said that it does look like a radical Muslim although he doesn't seem to belong to any organisation. And no, I don't think every Muslim is a terrorist.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 10:05:33 PM

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Just goes to show why we need greater control over our borders and vetting for those who come from nations where the ideology is hostile to the western way of life.
Funny how its being labelled a "violent act" by the media - even though the 18yr old who did it is from Somalia and has ties to radicalization....

Be careful saying common sense stuff like that here. You'll soon be labelled a bigot, xenophobe, etc....

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 10:31:55 PM

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Just goes to show why we need greater control over our borders and vetting for those who come from nations where the ideology is hostile to the western way of life.
Funny how its being labelled a "violent act" by the media - even though the 18yr old who did it is from Somalia and has ties to radicalization....

He didn't have any ties... where did you get that information?

Everything I've read says he was worried because of how the media is portraying Muslims and said he didn't feel safe praying... they're calling it 'self-radicalization'. How are you going to control people with no history or known inclination to commit violent acts??

If anything, this is a reaction to the climate created by Trump and FOX news.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 10:50:35 PM

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Beautiful, ya have this new liberal buzz word "self-radicalization" and then ya top it off with blaming Trump and Fox news. That's freakin priceless. Where do you guys come up with this stuff ?

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/28/2016 10:57:37 PM

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Beautiful, ya have this new liberal buzz word "self-radicalization" and then ya top it off with blaming Trump and Fox news. That's freakin priceless. Where do you guys come up with this stuff ?

Self-radicalization is when someone with no direct ties to any terrorist organization decides to carry out an attack... Dylan Roof was the same. He wasn't a member of any radical right-wing group, but his attacks were racially motivated.

And okay, so what 'media' do you think that the attacker was so upset about?

Obviously the attacker himself is to blame, but it seems pretty obvious to me that he was deeply affected by the ways in which Trump has already made America great.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/29/2016 5:08:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Beautiful, ya have this new liberal buzz word "self-radicalization" and then ya top it off with blaming Trump and Fox news. That's freakin priceless. Where do you guys come up with this stuff ?

Self-radicalization is when someone with no direct ties to any terrorist organization decides to carry out an attack... Dylan Roof was the same. He wasn't a member of any radical right-wing group, but his attacks were racially motivated.

And okay, so what 'media' do you think that the attacker was so upset about?

Obviously the attacker himself is to blame, but it seems pretty obvious to me that he was deeply affected by the ways in which Trump has already made America great.

He is to blame for his actions, but of course it is Trumps fault and he was fighting back against all of those racist laws that Trump has already passed.

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RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to call... - 11/29/2016 5:29:05 AM

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He is to blame for his actions, but of course it is Trumps fault and he was fighting back against all of those racist laws that Trump has already passed.

You are a member of the KKK, but of course you only hate Muslims and not other minorities.

How does that straw man suit the king of straw men?

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