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Musicmystery -> Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 2:30:40 PM)

WASHINGTON — Forty-two constitutional law scholars called Tuesday on President-elect Donald Trump to reverse himself on a range of issues, from press freedom and judicial independence to abortion, immigration and racial discrimination.

Citing Trump's rhetoric during the presidential campaign and some of his Cabinet and White House choices, the law school professors urged him to reconsider his nomination of Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., for attorney general and his appointments of Michael Flynn as national security adviser and Stephen Bannon as chief strategist.

"Although we sincerely hope that you will take your constitutional oath seriously, so far you have offered little indication that you will," the letter said. "We feel a responsibility to challenge you in the court of public opinion, and we hope that those directly aggrieved by your administration will challenge you in the courts of law."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/13/legal-scholars-trump-abide-by-constitution/95372706/




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 2:48:56 PM)

Yeah, but they are scholars, in other words...elites!




subrob1967 -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 3:04:07 PM)

FR
These "Scholars" are about 8 years too late with their advice.




Real0ne -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 3:12:00 PM)

• Freedom of press does not include libel, I have seen the press tell mountains of lies in the name of getting the story out before the other guy.

• The muslim threat is wrong hands down, it attacks a religion like dubya did.

• Difficult call, if the judge on his case demonstrated some form of impropriety not a problem, otherwise difficult call.

• Abortion is not a constitutional right, fundamental or otherwise.

• Is it a lie? Only if its proven to be a lie, it was never proven either way so I imagine its rhetoric.

• Regardless how anyone thinks about it, it is the right of the people to speak even if it distasteful or even racist, as long as its not libel, slander etc.




WhoreMods -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 3:44:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

FR
These "Scholars" are about 16 years too late with their advice.

FTFY




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 7:32:03 PM)

The scholars, including many from the nation's top law schools, released a list of seven issues that "illustrate, but does not exhaust, our concerns."

They accused Trump of:

• Curtailing press freedom. As a candidate, Trump excluded some reporters from campaign events, threatened to sue journalists and mused about changing the nation's libel laws. "We urge you to allow the press to do its job, and we call upon you to commit to honoring First Amendment principles more broadly," they said.

• Threatening Muslims. Trump's early call for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration, later followed by talk of closing mosques or initiating a Muslim registry, amount to "poisonous anti-Muslim rhetoric which threatens our First Amendment guarantee of freedom of religious exercise and the Fifth Amendment’s promise of equal protection of the laws," the letter said.

• Infringing on judicial independence. Citing Trump's call for the judge presiding over a trial involving Trump University to recuse himself because of his Mexican heritage, they warned about "what this episode may signal about your administration’s respect for the independence of the judicial branch."

• Applying a litmus test for abortion. Trump has said he will name Supreme Court justices who disagree with the 1973 decision legalizing abortion, and that as a result states will control reproductive freedom. "We urge you to renounce your commitment to appointing justices with the aim of denying women their long-established, fundamental constitutional rights," they said.

• Threatening civil rights. The nomination of Sessions,who has a "troubling history" on race issues, "threatens to erase years of progress in ensuring equal citizenship in the United States," the letter said. They urged Trump to ditch Sessions for a "less polarizing person," but the Senate is very likely to confirm him.

• Lying about voter fraud. Trump claims he would have won the popular vote over Hillary Clinton but for the votes of millions of illegal immigrants. But no such voting has been proven, and the group urged the president-elect to "communicate with the American people honestly and responsibly about threats to the integrity of our election system."

• Inflaming hate groups. The scholars claimed Trump's "inflammatory rhetoric" during the campaign inspired neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups, whom he awarded with Bannon's appointment. "We ... urge you to strongly and unequivocally condemn — and use the power of your future office to combat — racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, and anti-Semitism," they said.

Among those signing the letter were Erwin Chemerinsky of the University of California-Irvine; Michael Dorf of Cornell Law School; Peter Edelman of Georgetown Law Center; Jamal Greene of Columbia Law School; Pamela Karlan of Stanford Law School; Alan Morrison of George Washington University Law School; Neil Siegel of Duke Law School; Stephen Vladeck of the University of Texas School of Law; and Adam Winkler of UCLA School of Law.

“The kind of conduct we’re concerned about is not normal. It’s abnormal,” Siegel said. As a result, the need to write such a letter "is not ordinary. It's extraordinary."




Hillwilliam -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 7:52:35 PM)

The problem with politicians and their adoring public is that those on the Right are perfectly willing to wipe their ass with everything but Article 2 and those on the Left care nothing for anything but articles 1 and 8 and they are willing to burn the rest.

Combine that with the fact that those who allow others to tell them what the truth is have mostly never bothered to read the document but they will run around telling people what is and isn't Constitutional because they allow media pundits to shove their hands up their ass and speak for them like Jeff Dunham and peanut.





Wayward5oul -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/13/2016 8:55:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The problem with politicians and their adoring public is that those on the Right are perfectly willing to wipe their ass with everything but Article 2 and those on the Left care nothing for anything but articles 1 and 8 and they are willing to burn the rest.

Combine that with the fact that those who allow others to tell them what the truth is have mostly never bothered to read the document but they will run around telling people what is and isn't Constitutional because they allow media pundits to shove their hands up their ass and speak for them like Jeff Dunham and peanut.



Hey now, don't go hating on peanut. I would say that he is a tad more sentient than the circus peanut.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 2:38:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The problem with politicians and their adoring public is that those on the Right are perfectly willing to wipe their ass with everything but Article 2 and those on the Left care nothing for anything but articles 1 and 8 and they are willing to burn the rest.

Combine that with the fact that those who allow others to tell them what the truth is have mostly never bothered to read the document but they will run around telling people what is and isn't Constitutional because they allow media pundits to shove their hands up their ass and speak for them like Jeff Dunham and peanut.



Hey now, don't go hating on peanut. I would say that he is a tad more sentient than the circus peanut.

That was hating just as much on the Al Sharptons of the world as the Ann Coulters.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 3:40:01 AM)

Everybody keep panicking!

Well, you childish alt left parrots, at least. The rest of us know that our separate branches of government provide safeguards so that even your precious precious Hillary Clinton would have had difficulty using executive orders to violate the second amendment as she promised, and that the Supreme Court already struck down her unconstitutional plans to violate our free speech rights.

Choo choo motherfuckers, Trump Train coming through





Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 5:14:13 AM)

Yet again, illiterate moron, you aren't talking to Clinton supporters here.

You nutty Trumptooners think the world is black and white. It's not. You're aren't 12 anymore -- adult life is more nuanced.

And if Trump can successfully spit on the Constitution, so can whoever comes next--whatever party.

You might also look up the difference between concern and panic. You seem confused.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 5:35:29 AM)

You are a joke. So laughable! Where were all of you blind partisan Hillary bitches with your crocodile tears for the constitution when your beloved King Barry was using the constitution for toilet paper?

How much of his stupidity and nonsense have the courts struck down now? He had his pen, he had his phone, but he never had the authority under the constitution.

Where are your posts calling him on it, or Hillary for that matter, if you are anything other than delusional about being a "moderate".

Let's see them. Put up or shut up, childish little alt left parrot.




mnottertail -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 5:50:24 AM)

You are the joke, where was he using the constitution for toiletpaper, you blind partisan nutsucker? I believe he has had less struck down in the courts than any other president. Your answer on overreach was at best one. NLRB vs. Noel Canning.

W had the shit kicked out of him several times on military tribunals and habeus corpus several times alone.

Where are your posts calling the nutsuckers on it you delusional nutsucker?

And how about all them nutsucker state legislatures and governors who got their ass handed to them religiously on gerrymander, voting refusals, voter id, abortion clinic laws and so on?

Nutsuckers have the death lock on using the constitution as toiletpaper.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 5:57:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You are the joke, where was he using the constitution for toiletpaper, you blind partisan nutsucker? I believe he has had less struck down in the courts than any other president. Your answer on overreach was at best one. NLRB vs. Noel Canning.

W had the shit kicked out of him several times on military tribunals and habeus corpus several times alone.

Where are your posts calling the nutsuckers on it you delusional nutsucker?

And how about all them nutsucker state legislatures and governors who got their ass handed to them religiously on gerrymander, voting refusals, voter id, abortion clinic laws and so on?

Nutsuckers have the death lock on using the constitution as toiletpaper.



You think you are a squirrel, right? Or you think I am a squirrel? Wait - I get it! You've gone completely nuts, and you think we are ALL squirrels!

Every board has one, I suppose.





mnottertail -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 6:02:18 AM)

You are a nutsucker, by definition, the hallucinatory of hallucinatories.





mnottertail -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 6:45:08 AM)

I should point out that 8 of the 13 cases that went to the supreme court were W cases that the DOJ argued. It is common to argue your predecessors cases whether you agree with them or not, because you want to keep the office of the President intact and un-encroached as possible.




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 6:56:37 AM)

Apparently, the depth of the "nutsuckers" allegiance to the Constitution is "If anyone is going to spit on it, it should be us!"

Way to defend America.

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WhoreMods -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 7:40:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
You are a joke. So laughable! Where were all of you blind partisan Hillary bitches with your crocodile tears for the constitution when your beloved King Barry was using the constitution for toilet paper?

So what did he do in office that was in breach of the constitution, besides being an African-American in the White House?




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 8:24:33 AM)

Are you willfully ignorant, or just ignorant?

[image]http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-constitution.jpg[/image]

The Google hits go on and on

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/12/23/president-obamas-top-10-constitutional-violations-of-2013/#43438e7a41bf

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428882/obama-violate-constitution-top-ten-2015

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/02/obama-attacks-trump-wait-disrespecting-constitution/

http://www.infowars.com/75-times-obama-broke-law-during-presidency/




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/14/2016 8:27:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Apparently, the depth of the "nutsuckers" allegiance to the Constitution is "If anyone is going to spit on it, it should be us!"

Way to defend America.

[8|]


Such thick, dripping irony to see the alt left bleating about the poor, defenseless Constitution, after eight long years of happily shredding it




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