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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/28/2017 8:52:32 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/28/2017 8:55:06 PM   
klmpong


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Status: offline 		Are you a democrat? I hear a lot of that going around.........even talk of suicide "pacts of unity".

It does bring up the whole "right to die" issue though. That should cheer some up.


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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/28/2017 9:05:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was locked up in the bin for 20 days when I was 30.... I can honestly say it was the best thing to happen to me in my life.... I was a basket case... but I knew that being locked up was better than the alternative.... now when the world kicks me in the nuts, I shake it off and I move on....

Addendum... I checked this persons profile out... and they blocked me.... so fuckem... they want to die.... go Ahead... not my responsibility.... I won't bat an eye

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/29/2017 1:59:20 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Why don't you check yourself into an ER? And tell them this. They will help you.


Went to ER, ended up being cuffed and shipped to a loony bin in under 20 minutes. Would rather die at home than being treated like a nut case and kept dopped up for five days in an unsafe environment where psycho actions attract other patients suddenly and without warning while the staff pretty much ignored it all. Even staff members told us that, if we wanted safety, we shouldn't have gone to The Bradley Center.



So, basically, you came onto this forum to have a whine. You don't want to do anything constructive - well, except maybe to take some over the counter substance that may or may not help someone somewhere. Don't know about other countries, but in the States the only way you get involuntarily committed is if you are deemed to be a danger to yourself or others. I rather think you were one or the other. I really don't get a sense that you want help - it seems to me that you just want to complain and hope someone will take pity on you.

Problem with that is , is that you get what you pay for - in other words, anyone who would take on someone who wants to kill themselves ( and won't make use of the medical profession in one way or another) is going to be damaged in some fashion as well. Not a healthy relationship.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/29/2017 9:26:26 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/30/2017 11:21:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Call your insurance company and find out where you can go.

You do have the option of finding a therapist and working out your issues with him/her.

And you can look up the second link I posted and call them.

You want attention, that is quite clear.
This is not a great way to get what you need... and you are smart enough to know that.
I am sorry you are in pain and feeling desperate.

You do have options: therapy, medication, and connection even if it is a suicide prevention call line.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/30/2017 7:04:45 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/31/2017 2:31:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure I'm buying any of this, from any angle.

When this was originally posted, my inclination was to ask if you were drunk. It's not something that I do often, especially since a lot of people post from their cell phones anymore, so a certain number of typos can be expected. Happens from time to time, but after a certain number, a person kind of wonders what is the real story.

Anybody on insulin is going to wonder if they are having blood sugar problems. Either too much or not enough. Yes, it will cause disorientation but I haven't run across anybody who is claiming their suicidal thoughts are due to the imbalance. There are plenty of diabetics that know how to maintain their balance without feeling the necessity to rush themselves to the ER, somehow managed to drive themselves there, and yet not coherent enough to get blood work done. Got committed in twenty minutes? Just doesn't happen that way. Even if you were screaming at the top of your lungs that you were going to self-harm, they didn't just skip all of the normal triage to push you off to the closest mental facility. Nobody was transporting you out before that blood panel came back. Even the drunk tank doesn't work that fast. You'd have been stabilized first.

(By the way, most people who have ever worked ER can spot attention seeking, drug seeking, etc behavior.)

Even if what you said was true, and you were on what is commonly known as insulin overdose, it has nothing to do with the attention seeking thread from a month ago. I find it highly unlikely that these intervals of the same, repeated behavior are based on your blood sugar or insulin dose. You're treating people like they are stupid and that's not cool. It's HARD to get people put on even as much as a 72 hour hold. You managed to get locked up for a week? Pull the other leg. It's got bells on it.


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RE: Suicide Prevention - 3/31/2017 4:41:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't buy any of your bullshit either. If you were serious about ending your life, you would have done so, not come back to post the same crap a second time.

No matter what advice you're given you have an excuse why it can't be done/won't work. You're nothing more than an attention seeker and quite frankly you're getting no more of mine.

And as to your profile, you're not a lesbian - as in a woman who only dates other women. You're profile is so full of negativity that no one is going to be interested. You're your own worst enemy.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/2/2017 10:12:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Call your insurance company and find out where you can go.

You do have the option of finding a therapist and working out your issues with him/her.

And you can look up the second link I posted and call them.

You want attention, that is quite clear.
This is not a great way to get what you need... and you are smart enough to know that.
I am sorry you are in pain and feeling desperate.

You do have options: therapy, medication, and connection even if it is a suicide prevention call line.


Yeah and end up in a nuthouse with all ther other crazies that hear voices and talk to themselves. Last place I went to screwed with my Ned's, now I'm not capable of driving. Much less walking without falling om me ass. I'm disorientated, confused and my mind I'd half gone. Welcome to America.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/2/2017 10:13:53 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/2/2017 10:16:12 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/2/2017 10:17:33 PM   
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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/3/2017 12:57:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'm not sure I'm buying any of this, from any angle............. You're treating people like they are stupid and that's not cool.



I don't buy it either.

1 - A parolee is a convicted felon. If police found him in possession of firearms, he would get arrested and be on a 96 hour observation hold because of the armed suicide threat. Then parole revocation for weapons violation and it’s back to the can for him.

2 - When police are aware of potential suicide, as in he called the police to remove the guns, the presence of firearms completely changes how the call is responded to, how the call location is approached, and how the on-scene is handled.

3. The first priority is ensuring safety and containment when police arrive. Dispatch should direct the caller to answer the door with nothing in their hands, and to keep them visible while being contacted by officers. Also want to know who else was in the house. It is a possibility that police would sweep the house for other subjects.

Next comes the investigation element. The question police are trying to answer is this: Is this person an imminent threat to themselves or others? That answer will dictate what police do next.

For instance, if the caller said to dispatch, "come take these guns to remove my temptation to use them for suicide," several police would arrive on the scene and ask what's going on. The place would be searched. If search reveals no overt weapons, no prescription medication, no standard means of suicide, then there is no cause to intervene and no action would be taken.

However, if guns are found, everything changes. Officers have the discretion to forcibly compel him to go to the hospital against his will if necessary. Even if they have to physically overpower him and strap him to a stretcher for transport to a hospital.

Once at the hospital, police would fill out an affidavit requesting a hold. A doctor would grant or deny the request. In the case of an armed suicidal subject that called to have guns removed, a minimum of 96 hour hold for counseling and observation should be granted.

These are the real operating procedures police and hospitals use to respond to someone that had “cops come and remove them [guns] from the house to take away the temptations of using both of them at the same time.” So basically, he never called cops to remove guns from his house or he would be arrested for parole violation and/or locked up in a psych ward for observation and evaluation.

I am just glad to see that some of you are catching on to which part of this is BS. Look up police procedures and policy in dealing with armed suicide calls. None of them end with the caller roaming free to do harm to themselves or others. I have trouble taking his claims serious because they fly in the face of reality.

If he chops off his man junk to speed up SRS, he will not be able to get SRS because there won't be anything to make woman parts with.

If he calls the cops to remove guns from his house while on parole, he gets arrested for parole violation.

If he calls the cops to help prevent him from suicide with a gun (or two), despite his desires to avoid the psych ward, that is exactly where he is going.

If he wants to use two guns, I doubt he would be able to fire the second gun after the first one went off. Because trigger are slightly different... would take a lot of practice to fire both at exactly the same time. Can't even be a fraction of second off. So after the first gun fires, there is no one left to finish pulling the trigger of the second gun.

Realty is in complete conflict with his stories and claims, nullifying their validity. It's a total sham. I do believe it is true he probably needs more than just our attention, he needs professional help.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/3/2017 10:42:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AllisonSophia2

It would make stef happy. Maybe she'll throw a humongous party

You overestimate your importance in my life, but it would make me far happier to see you get the help that you so clearly need than it would for you to check out.

I fear this is purely academic, because you're not likely to do either. Both require effort, and you have shown us time and time again that the only effort you're willing to expend is at the keyboard, trying to get others to throw you a pity party.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/8/2017 7:03:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		So who was this guy before? Got a link to his old posts? Apparently he has been here before and had an unpleasant experience in the forums. His journal has some real nuggets in it, but this made me think we have seen him before. Joining 4 months ago he said:

"I have returned tentatively, pending any further stalking issues. Will no longer post on the message boards as the troublemakers tend to hide there, waiting to pounce at the first post I might make."

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/8/2017 9:08:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

So who was this guy before? Got a link to his old posts? Apparently he has been here before and had an unpleasant experience in the forums. His journal has some real nuggets in it, but this made me think we have seen him before. Joining 4 months ago he said:

"I have returned tentatively, pending any further stalking issues. Will no longer post on the message boards as the troublemakers tend to hide there, waiting to pounce at the first post I might make."


RS, we have a stalking committee meeting at 0-300. In case you didn't get the memo.

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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/8/2017 9:30:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are options available to you. First you have to want them or be willing to allow someone else to get you to a place where you can care enough about living to want continue forward with your options.

Frankly, you aren't in a frame of mind to take advice from a forum, because you keep responding with arguments against the advice.

My mother basically committed a slow and painful suicide, because he had a stroke and could not or would not live her life under her new limitations of being bedridden and unable to eat. She refused to allow herself to be fed through her feeding tube and signed the hospice paperwork.

It was her choice. You seem to be an otherwise healthy person with a mentally ill way of processing information/thoughts. If you can't do that, then someone either has to intervene on your behalf.


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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/8/2017 12:30:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
So who was this guy before? Got a link to his old posts? Apparently he has been here before and had an unpleasant experience in the forums. His journal has some real nuggets in it, but this made me think we have seen him before. Joining 4 months ago he said:

"I have returned tentatively, pending any further stalking issues. Will no longer post on the message boards as the troublemakers tend to hide there, waiting to pounce at the first post I might make."

Has anybody clued you in yet? If not, drop me a note and I'll give you the former screen name. I think it's already been put on one of these threads but I'll save you the trouble of looking for it. A lot of this crap isn't 'new' since the poster has come to the realization that she's transgender. The sad sack routine was clearly there over a decade ago. Most of the 'calling a person on their shit' has been evident on a lot of threads over the years.


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllisonSophia1
I did not come back to these forums so that you can stalk me and fuck with me. I have, however, returned with a "fuck you" attitude. So, guess what? "Fuck You and your stalking. I no longer give a fuck what you think and, before I block you for the last time, go fuck yourself and find someone who will cry and run away because I'm not running from you again. And, while you're at it...KISS MY FUCKING ASS.Reguardless our past and how I feel about myself. I'M BETTER THAN YOU AND AM SO IVERAND ABOVE YOU THAT YOU WILL NOT TEAR ME DOWN EVER AGAIN. SO TO RECAPP, FUCK YOU, KISS MY ASS I'M BETTER THAN YOU. GET OVER IT, BITCH,!!!

I've bitten my tongue of this long enough. Now, I'm choosing to go another way.

You want attention, honey? You've got it. Just so you know, I'm not doing it for you.

This bullshit of you claiming that stef, or I, or anybody else is stalking you is a bunch of flipping horseshit. Just because somebody doesn't like you as a human being, refuses to kiss or blow smoke up your ass because of your 'issues', or tells you the truth that you don't want to hear, rather than falling for your emotional manipulation, does not make them a stalker.

There are dozens of people on this forum who have had the actual stalker experience. If it were me, I'd consider your hyperbole of stef commenting on threads of yours to be a light day. She's not following you everywhere, contacting your family members, showing up at events that you attend, traveling hundreds/thousands of miles to sit outside restaurants that you frequent, scaring your friends with the incessant emails that they write, sending things to your home via mail, damaging your property, harassing organizers of local events, sometimes threatening them, or any of the other shit that people with REAL stalkers have to deal with

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed about transgender issues, but isn't a part of it supposed to be about being treated the same as everybody else? If that's correct, you don't get a free pass. Being Trans* doesn't absolve you of acting like a cunt when throwing the term "stalker" around frivolously. It's a damn insult to ANYBODY on this board who has had to do the real thing.

I would suggest you get yourself in check. Your flavor of bullshit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.





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RE: Suicide Prevention - 4/9/2017 7:48:56 AM   
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