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vincentML -> RE: inferior? (3/28/2017 12:13:05 PM)
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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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CDs with the forced humiliation fantasy are actually playing out a bit of physcho drama about guilt that society attaches to their fetish. If they are "forced' to do it,then they are not to blame.
That may be true in some cases, Noir, but that doesn't get to the root cause of their drama, only a rationalization for why they do what they do. It would seem counter intuitive to believe that while they are having their guilt relieved they are at the same moment experiencing intense erotic pleasure. You might argue that the lifting of the burden of guilt allows them to feel the full force of their pleasure but that does not explain the origins of the paraphilia. How did inferiority induced orgasm substitute for genital orgasm? And how is it in some/many cases the paraphilia becomes a compulsion?
Poking around in the professional literature is not very rewarding because there is such an array of possible answers and not much valid cause and effect. It is all quite speculative. That is why I caution against easy answers in this thread.
Paraphilias often result form a traumatic incident in childhood. Others are from chance visualizations. I do know what you mean. Empirical evidence can only be gathered from individual expressions.
There once was a myth that gay male behavior resulted from a household in which the mother was overbearing and the father was emotionally absent. Not so many believe that anymore. For your interest I have linked here to a history of the medical and popular views about gay men and women. It depends a lot on how the empirical evidence is collected.
Early studies were flawed because the men were identified before they were questioned or tested, which fed the biases of the investigators. To make a long story short homosexuality as a pathology was removed in 1986 from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM 3)
Sexual masochist disorder is considered an interest, not a pathology in DSM 5 if the patient is not experiencing anxiety, guilt, shame or other negative feelings related to masochistic sexual desires Not everyone is upset by his humiliation fantasies.
To your point, however, one study of men who visited Pro-Dommes reported that clients experience a psychological revitalization through shame, develop control over past trauma, and find alternatives to sexual repression (Lindemann, 2011). Again, however, we are looking at a self-selecting group of men.
Distress related to masochistic behavior, such as anxiety, guilt or shame is a diagnostic criterion for sexual masochistic disorder. Although it is estimated that 16% of men consult a therapist to discuss sexual masochistic behavior or fantasy, only about 6% wishes to stop.
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Besides distress, there is no clinical measure to differentiate pathological masochistic fantasy from non-pathological masochistic fantasy (Shindel and Moser, 2011). Because of stigma, many members of the BDSM community handle their sexual masochistic fantasies with concealment and secrecy. This often means that those who are troubled by any aspect of their behavior are less likely to seek help (Stiles and Clark, 2011).
It may also mean that there is a cohort of men who are not at all distressed by their desires. Again, I urge caution on generalizing any diagnosis or any speculation about the genesis of the behavior.
I suspect that blaming the parents for complex behavior in the child is much too simple a path.
Regards . . . .
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