quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

As far as DNA goes Vince-I get the feeling that people are more interested in cloning a tyrannosaur than a transsexual at this point.

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

As far as DNA goes Vince-I get the feeling that people are more interested in cloning a tyrannosaur than a transsexual at this point.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I can't believe how sensitive everyone is about the word inferior. It simply and literally means "lower rank", as a sub is to a Dom or slave is to a Master or a bottom is to a Top. Why would a Dom want a submissive that thought they were the superior in the relationship?

ADJECTIVE

lower in rank, status, or quality:

low or lower in position:


NOUN

a person lower than another in rank, status, or ability

My comments were addressed to a much wider point and one I imagine we have all dealt with at some time: why am i different? How did it happen that i have a fetish for the power dynamic? Why is it that some have a fetish for shoes? Or, feet? Why are some same sex attracted and others are not? Why are some convinced their SELF identity does not match their biological identity? How did it come about that some do not have the perception to match their appearance? What are the ORIGINS of the development of this SELF that does not conform to the perceived Norms?

I think this is a major question that the members of LGBTQ community face at some time in their lives. And beyond the community it is a major issue world wide because we queers are everywhere but we are not treated with the human dignity to which we are entitled.

There are several optional answers to the question. We can say we were born this way. But the gay gene has proven to be elusive. We can say that childhood experiences (good or bad) lead our development to who we are, but that raises even further questions.

I would love to hear other peoples' thoughts on the question but if there is no interest, that's all well and good, I will move on. Wrong time wrong place.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

As far as DNA goes Vince-I get the feeling that people are more interested in cloning a tyrannosaur than a transsexual at this point.

I could die happy at any time after seeing a living breathing tyrannosaur. I had a 6 foot tall styrofoam t-Rex skeleton in my room as a little girl. Miss that thing [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

As far as DNA goes Vince-I get the feeling that people are more interested in cloning a tyrannosaur than a transsexual at this point.

I could die happy at any time after seeing a living breathing tyrannosaur. I had a 6 foot tall styrofoam t-Rex skeleton in my room as a little girl. Miss that thing [:D]

I enjoyed when it ate the lawyer in the shitter in the movie. it was so strangely apropos.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I can't believe how sensitive everyone is about the word inferior. It simply and literally means "lower rank", as a sub is to a Dom or slave is to a Master or a bottom is to a Top. Why would a Dom want a submissive that thought they were the superior in the relationship?

ADJECTIVE

lower in rank, status, or quality:

low or lower in position:


NOUN

a person lower than another in rank, status, or ability

My comments were addressed to a much wider point and one I imagine we have all dealt with at some time: why am i different? How did it happen that i have a fetish for the power dynamic? Why is it that some have a fetish for shoes? Or, feet? Why are some same sex attracted and others are not? Why are some convinced their SELF identity does not match their biological identity? How did it come about that some do not have the perception to match their appearance? What are the ORIGINS of the development of this SELF that does not conform to the perceived Norms?

I think this is a major question that the members of LGBTQ community face at some time in their lives. And beyond the community it is a major issue world wide because we queers are everywhere but we are not treated with the human dignity to which we are entitled.

There are several optional answers to the question. We can say we were born this way. But the gay gene has proven to be elusive. We can say that childhood experiences (good or bad) lead our development to who we are, but that raises even further questions.

I would love to hear other peoples' thoughts on the question but if there is no interest, that's all well and good, I will move on. Wrong time wrong place.

Somehow I think you are reading something into my comment that I didn't intend. My comment was not about personal identity but about semantic understanding... and how it applies to identifying your relationship role as the top or bottom using the word inferior verse superior. Not about the physiology of how tops, bottoms, queers or straights form their identities from environmental influences in their childhood. Not that it isn't a great topic and makes for a good read in the psych books.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

As far as DNA goes Vince-I get the feeling that people are more interested in cloning a tyrannosaur than a transsexual at this point.

I could die happy at any time after seeing a living breathing tyrannosaur. I had a 6 foot tall styrofoam t-Rex skeleton in my room as a little girl. Miss that thing [:D]

I enjoyed when it ate the lawyer in the shitter in the movie. it was so strangely apropos.

HEY. I'm a lawyer. Even lawyers can love their t-rexes.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What you don't understand Peon,

quote:

is that by placing yourself in the position of a sub, you are inferior to every other man that doesn't.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamlady

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What you don't understand Peon,

Nobody here does. . . possibly due to not being fluent - ne parle pas - in the moronic. [8D]

quote:

is that by placing yourself in the position of a sub, you are inferior to every other man that doesn't.

. . . Which begs for translation in tamakanese:

1. Do you believe that "placing yourself in the position of a sub" makes every non-submissive man somehow superior to you, women in general, or just to submissive women?

Placing myself, a woman, in the position of sub makes every non-submissive man nothing to me unless my Master tells me differently. Non-submissive men need to work out for themselves where they stand among other women .

2. (a) Is it your considered opinion that military men who are subordinate to their superior officers also fall into this broad category of "being inferior [in manhood] to every other" man in uniform who outranks them?

No
2. (b) If not, then why not, according to your own [skewed] logic?

It's their job and jobs have hierarchies

2. (c) Where does this leave military women in terms of social hierarchy? Are they somehow "less womanly" than the average civilian woman if they take command of others? Does this extend to the arena of law enforcement, etc.?

It's a job.
3. (a) Do you see yourself as being superior, equal or inferior to other women who do not self-identify as their "Master's hole" as you have declared yourself to be nothing more than?

I don't compare myself to others.

Hint: You may avail yourself of whatever definition you feel applies, either according to ResidentSadist's post, or to your own implication of substandardness.

4. Paradoxically, do you see yourself as being superior to (a) non-submissive women and/or (b) submissive men in worth and value, because of the "Subblier Than Thou" stick you have shoved up one of your Master's holes?

I don't compare myself to others.

DreamLady

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Every now and then, in BDSM circles, a squeaky little maledom or a squeaky little femsub will invite me to believe that, as a malesub, I'm inferior in some fundamental way. I don't mind. I like to find humour where I can. [:)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Placing myself, a woman, in the position of sub makes every non-submissive man nothing to me unless my Master tells me differently. Non-submissive men need to work out for themselves where they stand among other women .

quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamlady

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Placing myself, a woman, in the position of sub makes every non-submissive man nothing to me unless my Master tells me differently. Non-submissive men need to work out for themselves where they stand among other women .

Backpedal, much? You made a generalized statement that was nothing short of a judgmental attack upon Peon, and you addressed him by name, as well as insulting a submissive man's standing among other men.

Let me refresh your memory:

What you don't understand Peon, is that by placing yourself in the position of a sub, you are inferior to every other man that doesn't.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I am sure you should be nothing but proud of the obedient little boy that you are, peon.

Whew, I don't know what it is, but ^this^ makes me hot. [:D]

DreamLady

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Every now and then, in BDSM circles, a squeaky little maledom or a squeaky little femsub will invite me to believe that, as a malesub, I'm inferior in some fundamental way. I don't mind. I like to find humour where I can. [:)]

I am sure you should be nothing but proud of the obedient little boy that you are, peon.

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Every now and then, in BDSM circles, a squeaky little maledom or a squeaky little femsub will invite me to believe that, as a malesub, I'm inferior in some fundamental way. I don't mind. I like to find humour where I can. [:)]

I am sure you should be nothing but proud of the obedient little boy that you are, peon.

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

I guess tasocka wasn't really leaving after all. Can't get their attention whore needs met elsewhere I suppose.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

I guess tasocka wasn't really leaving after all. Can't get their attention whore needs met elsewhere I suppose.

You poor little stef. You can't get any of your needs met anywhere.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

I guess tasocka wasn't really leaving after all. Can't get their attention whore needs met elsewhere I suppose.

You poor little stef. You can't get any of your needs met anywhere.

Notice how deflated her answers are. Tamaka just doesn't know how to be "dominant." Or else she is witless.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Shh, tamaka. Not another squeak out of you, please.

I guess tasocka wasn't really leaving after all. Can't get their attention whore needs met elsewhere I suppose.

You poor little stef. You can't get any of your needs met anywhere.

Notice how deflated her answers are. Tamaka just doesn't know how to be "dominant." Or else she is witless.