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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 8:37:49 AM

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https://www.vox.com/2014/8/13/5994305/michael-brown-case-investigation-legal-police-kill-force-murder

Constitutionally, "police officers are allowed to shoot under two circumstances," says criminologist David Klinger of the University of Missouri St. Louis. The first circumstance is "to protect their life or the life of another innocent party" — what departments call the "defense-of-life" standard. The second circumstance is to prevent a suspect from escaping, but only if the officer has probable cause to think the suspect poses a dangerous threat to others.

I see, and what is the clear evidence and proof of either of those circumstances. None.

Him trying to get into a car...
you know that thing which accounts for more deaths in the US annually then Firearms.

What exactly are the stats for these tragic deaths of entering a car, are you thinking as I do that you are justifying a murder because someone 'attempted' to get in a car? Jesus, lets have snipers on every town watertower, the minute someone tries to enter a car, shoot them dead.

3 or 4 tazers wouldnt have done that, now would they? Murder is the solution. We do not see him trying to enter the car, we see him hit with a tazer and dropped to the ground like a stone, and the murderer shooting him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnqGL9nXj28

Shoot cops, save lives.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 8:54:38 AM

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not incredibly rare.

and of course you are wrong and up to your usual disinformation tactics.

The law

PCP is an illegal Class A drug. It carries a maximum sentence of seven years imprisonment for possession and up to life in prison for supply.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/4VNBcPHpxk84DhnKKtDJCL5/pcp

class A list as of 1979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drugs_controlled_by_the_UK_Misuse_of_Drugs_Act#Class_A_drugs

any other disinformation you want to share with us, rather than your incredibly rare wisdom?

Again, how many PCP users have been shot down by old bill? Since its rare, you may use the numbers from 1979 till today.

would it be cheesy to say trap card activate?
meh, whatever... Obviously it is a class A drug, it's been that way since like the 70's most all industrialized countries. But it is so rarely encountered that it isn't really mentioned under most reference material (like i linked which is an official government site mind you - not some childish BBC blurb or wikipedia) but anyways - on to why i stated it the way i did:

Oh my God, you know sooooo much about UK Law!!
... How about you go fuck off there if you love it so God damn much because obviously you know jack shit about American Law.

At least there in London, you will be the Minority as a White Man and won't worry about the 'oppressive and corrupt' police doing evil things against the minorities.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 9:45:52 AM

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how about you take your hysterical pants shitting retard meds you fucking coward? I am a veteran of this country, and you are a fucking nobody. Nobody gives a fuck what you armchair pussies think.

go back to camelshit trading you fucking commie felchgobbler. Learn about our country before you come here and collect welfare.

Doesnt matter that I know law and you dont, so fare you have provided shitlicking disinformatoin and propagands. Then you flounce around like a perimenopausal drag queen in high dudgeon when you are pointed out to be a sackless dung beetle.

No, my bolshevik friend, you are a fucking laughingstock, always have been, a spineless sackless retarded swisher.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 10:24:03 AM

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They shot him dead live on the tele(telly) - I forget my original post whilst i tried to remember which specific case this was

trigger happy cop murders someone looking a bit darkie - he was reaching for his gun (plant) or a bit of Lego, or playdough, that looked like a gun so he had to go - "acquitted"

trigger happy cop murders someone looking a bit darkie - precedence cited he looked as if he was off his nut on penicillin, had two glass or Flint tap water in him, had his back to me and it looked like a gun, so he had to go - "acquitted"

Your police death squads sure do shoot anyone looking a bit darky lots - and most of the ones I read - acquitted etc

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 11:09:00 AM

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The creemee fucking supreemeees destroyed probable cause, effectively re-writing it to probable suspicion.

Reasonable suspicion is a legal standard of proof in United States law that is less than probable cause, the legal standard for arrests and warrants, but more than an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or 'hunch'";[1] it must be based on "specific and articulable facts", "taken together with rational inferences from those facts",[2] and the suspicion must be associated with the specific individual.[3] If police additionally have reasonable suspicion that a person so detained is armed and dangerous, they may "frisk" the person for weapons, but not for contraband like drugs. Reasonable suspicion is evaluated using the "reasonable person" or "reasonable officer" standard,[4] in which said person in the same circumstances could reasonably suspect a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity; it depends upon the totality of circumstances, and can result from a combination of particular facts, even if each is individually innocuous.

Less than means rights taken away, the rights of the people can lawfully be expanded by congress but not reduced by any branch of da mobocracy. The courts are bought and paid for because any fucking excuse of insanity can be formated to appear reasonable, and that is not based upon a judge or any authoritive review like probable cause.

Another one is the lunacy that detention is not arrest, if they stop someone they are arresting his movement to conduct an investigation whatever, however the court itself is destroying the constitution by circumventing its meaning in favor of the state. If you cannot leave the scene or terminate the officer from interrogating you at ANY time you are in a condition of arrest.

Another one, we in america have a right to own and bear 'arms' without qualifiers, it is entirely unconstitutional to license a fucking right. Hence paying the state for a license to exercize your rights FFS.

The cop has no 'CONSTITUTIONAL' authority to disarm anyone except in the commission of a crime. If the job is too fucking dangerous and scary done constitutionally then get a fucking desk job, but no they destroy the constitution instead and not reasonable but 'rational' is now the standard!

common law has been reduced from the law of the citizenry to the law that is commonly enforced which is statutory legislatively enforced law. 1) the state is always right, 2) If you think the state is wrong please refer to #1). Common law also destroyed.

The courts today are entirely illegitimate, bought and paid for, this country went down the shitter many years ago and its getting worse.

some, as in 'some' people are starting to figure out that we here in the US are victims of a constructive coup to subvert and take over this country through its legal system over the years.

yep the pot is brewing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuhQrxIKqkY

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 11:14:14 AM

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I am a veteran of this country

How does it feel to be betrayed by da mobacracy that has and continues to destroy every last damn so called freedom you put your ass on the line to die for?

Pretty good I bet

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 11:52:21 AM

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feels like less for me than for you, you got nothing but your dick in your hands, but I understand mentally unfit to serve.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 12:19:01 PM

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If he drove the car in the condition he was in he could have killed someone. If he had any kind of weapon in the car he could have killed somebody. If they said that the cop had probable cause to search, that means she had probable cause to believe he had some type of weapon. She is on the front line, her job is not to get herself killed.

So what? That makes it reasonable for cops to stand outside taverns at closing time and pop off the drunkards as they exit? Oh, tamaka . . .

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 12:23:22 PM

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Constitutionally, yes.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 12:56:44 PM

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Constitutionally, yes.

show me that or any of your 2 constitutionally approved reasons to murder.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:07:28 PM

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how about you take your hysterical pants shitting retard meds you fucking coward? I am a veteran of this country, and you are a fucking nobody. Nobody gives a fuck what you armchair pussies think.

go back to camelshit trading you fucking commie felchgobbler. Learn about our country before you come here and collect welfare.

Doesnt matter that I know law and you dont, so fare you have provided shitlicking disinformatoin and propagands. Then you flounce around like a perimenopausal drag queen in high dudgeon when you are pointed out to be a sackless dung beetle.

No, my bolshevik friend, you are a fucking laughingstock, always have been, a spineless sackless retarded swisher.

Rank, MOS, Company, Battalion, Division of last tour.

Plenty of people can say they've served... but what does that mean?
We've conditioned people to revere our vets for their service.

But having come from a family of vets and people that actually defended sovereign american soil from invasion... how one served is as just as important as service. Because one doesn't need to serve in the armed forces to be a patriot, and there are countless many who don't, or can't, serve as a soldier yet do more for our country then the hapless trigger-happy pukes we send out to play at war that only come home to swing their service around like a sword to demean and dismiss those that didn't...

I do quiet find those people deplorable mind you.

Just because you served doesn't give you the right to shit on our Constitution... to not respect it and use it to pad your argument. That is disgusting, vile, and a disgrace for those that have put on that uniform before and after you.

So go on - Keep saying you're a vet.
Prove it with your MOS and last Tour.
Keep using it as the high ground.

Forsake the duty you Swore to the US and her People.

There is a special place in hell for fucks like yourself that have no honor, dignity or respect for the Code.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:11:37 PM

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I think most people just ignore gramps felchgobbler

He's a troll's troll. Belches stupidity to see himself post

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:13:07 PM

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Constitutionally, yes.

show me that or any of your 2 constitutionally approved reasons to murder.

I already showed it to you.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:23:57 PM

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If he drove the car in the condition he was in he could have killed someone. If he had any kind of weapon in the car he could have killed somebody. If they said that the cop had probable cause to search, that means she had probable cause to believe he had some type of weapon. She is on the front line, her job is not to get herself killed.

So what? That makes it reasonable for cops to stand outside taverns at closing time and pop off the drunkards as they exit? Oh, tamaka . . .

It gives them the right to arrest them. Any violence would be predicated on their reaction to the attempt toarrest them.

And why do you insist on equateing drunk with PCP when you know (or should know) that they are 2 totally different things with PCP beibg far more dangerous.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:27:48 PM

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how about you take your hysterical pants shitting retard meds you fucking coward? I am a veteran of this country, and you are a fucking nobody. Nobody gives a fuck what you armchair pussies think.

go back to camelshit trading you fucking commie felchgobbler. Learn about our country before you come here and collect welfare.

Doesnt matter that I know law and you dont, so fare you have provided shitlicking disinformatoin and propagands. Then you flounce around like a perimenopausal drag queen in high dudgeon when you are pointed out to be a sackless dung beetle.

No, my bolshevik friend, you are a fucking laughingstock, always have been, a spineless sackless retarded swisher.

Rank, MOS, Company, Battalion, Division of last tour.

Plenty of people can say they've served... but what does that mean?
We've conditioned people to revere our vets for their service.

But having come from a family of vets and people that actually defended sovereign american soil from invasion... how one served is as just as important as service. Because one doesn't need to serve in the armed forces to be a patriot, and there are countless many who don't, or can't, serve as a soldier yet do more for our country then the hapless trigger-happy pukes we send out to play at war that only come home to swing their service around like a sword to demean and dismiss those that didn't...

I do quiet find those people deplorable mind you.

Just because you served doesn't give you the right to shit on our Constitution... to not respect it and use it to pad your argument. That is disgusting, vile, and a disgrace for those that have put on that uniform before and after you.

So go on - Keep saying you're a vet.
Prove it with your MOS and last Tour.
Keep using it as the high ground.

Forsake the duty you Swore to the US and her People.

There is a special place in hell for fucks like yourself that have no honor, dignity or respect for the Code.

I dont shit on the constitution, you do, suck it coward. last MOS 11B40 last tour Grafenwohr.

you are in it you unconstitutional and unamerican dickwiggler. Go shit on your tongue, swallow a different felch awhile. You havent done anything behind the scenes for this country either, stolenvalor, you are a wretched pansyboy.

Oh............http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1778&context=wmlr

I demean you because you are a demeaned piece of shit. You are a fucking coward, never served your country, but gonna tell me all about the constitution and who is shitting on it, and you dont know it, dont know the history of your country.

Thing is, like Iraq, Afghanistan and so on, wars we shouldnt be in, but by god, those who went did the right thing, once the deed is done you are in it, right or wrong my country.

Not yours coward, you are just visiting like the rest of the illegal aliens.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:33:17 PM

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If he drove the car in the condition he was in he could have killed someone. If he had any kind of weapon in the car he could have killed somebody. If they said that the cop had probable cause to search, that means she had probable cause to believe he had some type of weapon. She is on the front line, her job is not to get herself killed.

So what? That makes it reasonable for cops to stand outside taverns at closing time and pop off the drunkards as they exit? Oh, tamaka . . .

It gives them the right to arrest them. Any violence would be predicated on their reaction to the attempt toarrest them.

And why do you insist on equateing drunk with PCP when you know (or should know) that they are 2 totally different things with PCP beibg far more dangerous.

And neither being a capital crime, he is down on the ground laid out tazed, and then shot.

Yeah, no. Murder.

There was no attempt on her part to arrest him. He went down laid there for a couple seconds and she fired.

Attempt to slobber around the visual, actual evidence. Its right there. And lots of time to draw a tazer.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:35:24 PM

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Constitutionally, yes.

show me that or any of your 2 constitutionally approved reasons to murder.

I already showed it to you.

nope, you have definitely not. Here, try again:

http://constitutionus.com/

nope, not in my copy. and nothing you have shown.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:38:27 PM

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I think most people just ignore gramps felchgobbler

He's a troll's troll. Belches stupidity to see himself post

the pedophile, Felchgobbler Gobbles an old, worn out, putinjizz swilling felchgobbling nutsucker compound gimp working out of his mothers basement slobbers out hallucinations because of severe syphilis from his birth, and subsequent gimping at the compound for any and all.

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:40:23 PM

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There is no constitution you ass helmet.

No 'right' of religion, ask the mormonsl, ask the kliens
No 'right' of speech, ask dubya and his free speech zones
No 'right' of press, if you ever want another news story
No 'right' to own arms, you need state required permission, license
No 'right' to bear arms, without being considered a terrorist and be shot by some rambo fucking cop.
No 'right' to trial by jury, summary judgment fixed that
No 'right' to your person, state owns your asses and can inspect it whenever they want for whatever reasonn they want.
No 'right' to due process, whatever it takes to take your ass down
No 'right' to your papers or effects, ID must be shown on demand
No 'right' to arrest only by probable cause, the court changed the constitution to probabl suspicion
No 'right' to vote on the laws enforced upon you.
No right to fair trial unless you hire flee bailey at 10,000 bucks a minute

WHAT FUCKING CONSTITUTION?

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RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH - 5/25/2017 1:45:54 PM

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there is a constitution you retard. The fact that you nutsuckers have been perverting it and destroying the country since its inception notwithstanding.

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