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itsSIRtou -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:33:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: LadyDemura

I don't want to do those things. I just don't see why anyone should be allowed to drive a car powered by Saudi oil, now that other options exist. Teslas would be affordable if economies of scale got working and they were basically the only option.


Your blaming Republicans for oil was telling

We can thank petroleum for playing a large part in providing us with the highly advanced quality of life most of us currently enjoy

If Tesla really is onto something, he doesn't need a dictator to make it popular


they already are. oh wait, that's right ur heads been in the dirt or u would of noticed Tesla's stock is up from $178.19 a year ago to $308.37 today. every new model they introduce has a waiting list blocks long.

so as the price and used cars become available, u'll see more of them from the hillside u and ur fellow fenceposts ur as dumb as are on....




Greta75 -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:38:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im talking about YOUR fucking posts and YOUR claims, NOT trumps, YOURs,
now stop spinning and look at what you have said about saudi arabia in the past.
now you are happy trump curtseyed and spun around with the sauds.
YOUR hypocrisy and bullshit
not your dreamboat.

Actually, I see no hypocrisy about wanting the Muslims to fix their own terrorism problems that their religion is causing world wide.

Why shouldn't they be held responsible to their religion causing all this issues?

Where is the hypocrisy?

At the same time, all other countries should reject Islam, because they abuse women and don't accept Islamic culture in their countries.

Calling a country out to take bigger responsibility on fixing the terrorism their religion has caused the world equals hypocrisy for woman's right?

You lost me.




Lucylastic -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:41:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
where is all the concern for muslim women in SA greta?
where is your "rage" against muslims now, or are you ok with placating them with billions for providing arms to jihadists and terrorists????
You expect any media to not point out what was wrong with his speech?
why?
you expect people to believe your taint kissing?
not happening

Trump agenda since his election was not about woman's right in Saudi Arabia.

His agenda was to get the damn Muslims to fix the damn terrorism problems their religion has created around the world.

He never claim he had any goals to fix woman's right in the Muslim world.

So to me, I don't expect him to.

But it's the politicians who claims to defend woman's right and then defend Muslim rights despite being the most anti-women religion in this world, IS what I will call out.


Melania and Ivanka Trump make stops in Saudi Arabia to promote women's empowerment



It is funny when you just link to google and not particular stories because it includes the ones that disagree with why they are doing what they are doing"

Ivanka Trump praises Saudi Arabia on women's rights after country donates $100 million to her cause


Melania Trump completely disconnects from reality, praises 'women's empowerment' in Saudi Arabia

Ivanka Trump meets with Saudi women leaders as some activists remain critical
“All the women that Ivanka Trump met have a guardian,” said Aziza al-Yousef, a 58-year-old Saudi activist who has campaigned to abolish the guardianship rules. A retired computer science professor at King Saud University, she was recently rebuffed when she tried to deliver to the government a 14,700-signature petition on eliminating the guardian system.

“All these achievements depend on whether you’re lucky to be born in a family where your guardian will be understanding, will help you,” Yousef said. “If Ivanka is interested in women empowerment and human rights, she should see activists, and not just officials.”

[A Saudi woman tweeted a photo of herself without a hijab. Police arrested her.]

A recent royal decree called for easing some aspects of the guardian system, which requires a father, brother, husband or other close relative to accompany women outside the home and give written consent for them to access higher education, jobs and health care. The decree, which gave agencies three months to come up with new rules, does not include the right for women to travel independently outside the country.

“It’s not about Ivanka speaking at the meeting,” said activist Loujain al-Hathloul, “but is it actually useful for these women from Saudi Arabia to speak as well? Is their contribution in such events helpful to us Saudi women in general, not princesses or business owners or rich women? Does it actually help us? I doubt it.

Saudi Arabia, UAE pledge $100 million to ethically questionable fund proposed by Ivanka TrumpDonald Trump criticized similar donations to the Clinton Foundation when he was a candidate.

The fund, which was first announced in April, has already raised serious legal and ethical questions about how a White House adviser can both shape foreign policy and actively solicit donations from foreign countries for the fund.
According to the Wall Street Journal, the initiative would provide technical assistance and investments for projects that support the economic empowerment of women around the globe. Ivanka Trump does not control the money, though she first pitched the idea to World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim and has discussed the idea with leaders such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
On Sunday, World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim praised “Ivanka’s leadership” in spearheading the fund, and called it “a stunning achievement.”
President Donald Trump was extremely critical of Saudi Arabia’s contributions to the Clinton Foundation while campaigning against Hillary Clinton, going so far as to call for Clinton to return all the money given to the foundation, both in speeches on the campaign trail and during the October presidential debate.
“You talk about women and women’s rights. These are people that push gays off business — off buildings. These are people that kill women and treat women horribly, and yet you take their money,” Trump said during the debate. “So I’d like to ask you right now. Why don’t you give back the money that you’ve taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly? Why don’t you give back the money. I think it would be a great gesture.”
The Clinton Foundation has received between $10 million and $25 million from Saudi Arabia. A foundation spokesperson said during the campaign that the foundation did not accept any donations from Saudi Arabia while Clinton was Secretary of State. Trump also accused the foundation of “pay-to-play” schemes during Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State.

He has not, however, spoken about the legal and ethical concerns associated with Ivanka Trump’s World Bank initiative. Since Ivanka works as a senior adviser in the White House, it’s possible that she could be involved with foreign policy decisions relating to the countries that have donated to the fund. It’s not illegal or unprecedented for presidents or their families to engage in philanthropy while in the White House, but such efforts are required to go through a lengthy approval process to ensure that there is no sort of special access or influence given in exchange for donations.




Greta75 -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:46:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Ivanka Trump praises Saudi Arabia on women's rights after country donates $100 million to her cause[

Did you even read the article you posted. The headline is one big lie. When you read what is about, Ivanka was praising the women in Saudi Arabia for banding together and fighting for their rights. Gosh Lucy, you are sooo bias towards Trump that you even want to believe lying headlines. In Blue is what is written inside your article. I don't think it's accurate that Ivanka "praised saudi for woman's right", she praised the Saudi women for fighting for their rights! There is a HUGE difference.

”Each of you know this to be true. And yet the stories of Saudi women, such as yourselves, catalysing change, inspire me to believe in the possibility of global women’s empowerment.”

Progress includes women being allowed to vote in local elections, and a decreasing amount of power held by the religious police.

“The need to empower and engage women transcends borders and cultures. Whether in the United States or in Saudi Arabia, women play a critical role in a movement that unites us all,” she said.





Lucylastic -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:47:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im talking about YOUR fucking posts and YOUR claims, NOT trumps, YOURs,
now stop spinning and look at what you have said about saudi arabia in the past.
now you are happy trump curtseyed and spun around with the sauds.
YOUR hypocrisy and bullshit
not your dreamboat.

Actually, I see no hypocrisy about wanting the Muslims to fix their own terrorism problems that their religion is causing world wide.

Why shouldn't they be held responsible to their religion causing all this issues?

Where is the hypocrisy?

At the same time, all other countries should reject Islam, because they abuse women and don't accept Islamic culture in their countries.

Calling a country out to take bigger responsibility on fixing the terrorism their religion has caused the world equals hypocrisy for woman's right?

You lost me.

LOL again nothing to do with terrrorism, but your views against saudis(not just muslims) about their horrible treatment of women in SA.
Please stop trying to obfuscate, Im talking about YOUR response to womens rights in islam, especially SA.
YOUR posts, YOUR claims, YOUR Ignorance when it comes to praising trump




Greta75 -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:50:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
LOL again nothing to do with terrrorism, but your views against saudis(not just muslims) about their horrible treatment of women in SA.
Please stop trying to obfuscate, Im talking about YOUR response to womens rights in islam, especially SA.
YOUR posts, YOUR claims, YOUR Ignorance when it comes to praising trump

My post is about praising Trump for telling the Muslims straight to their face that, they need to fix the mess they have caused.

So still have no clue what has that got to do with any hypocrisy at all about women's right.

No idea what you are talking about at all.





BoscoX -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:53:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
LOL again nothing to do with terrrorism, but your views against saudis(not just muslims) about their horrible treatment of women in SA.
Please stop trying to obfuscate, Im talking about YOUR response to womens rights in islam, especially SA.
YOUR posts, YOUR claims, YOUR Ignorance when it comes to praising trump

My post is about praising Trump for telling the Muslims straight to their face that, they need to fix the mess they have caused.

So still have no clue what has that got to do with any hypocrisy at all about women's right.

No idea what you are talking about at all.




No, she isn't making any sense

She's just desperate to make you the topic, that's the only way she feels she can "win" the debate





Lucylastic -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:56:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Ivanka Trump praises Saudi Arabia on women's rights after country donates $100 million to her cause[

Did you even read the article you posted. The headline is one big lie. When you read what is about, Ivanka was praising the women in Saudi Arabia for banding together and fighting for their rights. Gosh Lucy, you are sooo bias towards Trump that you even want to believe lying headlines. In Blue is what is written inside your article. I don't think it's accurate that Ivanka "praised saudi for woman's right", she praised the Saudi women for fighting for their rights! There is a HUGE difference.

”Each of you know this to be true. And yet the stories of Saudi women, such as yourselves, catalysing change, inspire me to believe in the possibility of global women’s empowerment.”

Progress includes women being allowed to vote in local elections, and a decreasing amount of power held by the religious police.

“The need to empower and engage women transcends borders and cultures. Whether in the United States or in Saudi Arabia, women play a critical role in a movement that unites us all,” she said.



you didnt read the others either.
And you are wrong, IM all for saudi women doing this absolutely, the saudi women fighting for their rights arent the issue, its the hypocrisy.
of you and people like you, sucking up to the sauds because trump did.
this is lip service, lies and obfuscation to feed the frantic trumpers.

You are right, I hate trump, but I dont need to lie about him
he and his base are doing that for themselves.








Lucylastic -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 7:57:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
LOL again nothing to do with terrrorism, but your views against saudis(not just muslims) about their horrible treatment of women in SA.
Please stop trying to obfuscate, Im talking about YOUR response to womens rights in islam, especially SA.
YOUR posts, YOUR claims, YOUR Ignorance when it comes to praising trump

My post is about praising Trump for telling the Muslims straight to their face that, they need to fix the mess they have caused.

So still have no clue what has that got to do with any hypocrisy at all about women's right.

No idea what you are talking about at all.




No, she isn't making any sense

She's just desperate to make you the topic, that's the only way she feels she can "win" the debate



My point is gretas hypocrisy, not trump.
so its not me thats confused, this is about your posts and bullshit coming back to haunt you with bells on.
Ive discussed the topic, every post.




Greta75 -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:05:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
you didnt read the others either.
And you are wrong, IM all for saudi women doing this absolutely, the saudi women fighting for their rights arent the issue, its the hypocrisy.
of you and people like you, sucking up to the sauds because trump did.
this is lip service, lies and obfuscation to feed the frantic trumpers.

You are right, I hate trump, but I dont need to lie about him
he and his base are doing that for themselves.

And your article mislead AS IF Ivanka asked for 100million donation for herself.
Yet the truth is:

Saudi Arabia will donate $100 million towards the planned $1 billion global women’s entrepreneurship fund, which was encouraged by Ms Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

All that was in that article you posted with a title meant to smear the Trumps.




Greta75 -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:07:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
My point is gretas hypocrisy, not trump.
so its not me thats confused, this is about your posts and bullshit coming back to haunt you with bells on.
Ive discussed the topic, every post.

I don't see any hypocrisy, unless both you and me have different definitions of hypocrisy.




Musicmystery -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:41:48 AM)

Trump curtsies for the King: Donald is mocked for crouching 'like a sparkly princess' in front of Saudi royal after being given the country's highest civilian honor despite slamming Obama for bowing to him in 2009

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4526280/Trump-curtsies-King-Salman.html#ixzz4hp4R5RB1

[image]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/21/02/4092BA5200000578-4526280-image-a-56_1495331162777.jpg[/image]




mnottertail -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:44:27 AM)

did you see the little bounce after like he was going for the kings cock? the whitehouse called it a curtsey, didnt they?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:46:20 AM)

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Lucylastic -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:51:10 AM)

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mnottertail -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:51:34 AM)

Such little hands. Tsk tsk.




Edwird -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 8:51:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


So why hasn't Trump cut off US imports of oil from the terrorist House of Saud? or cut off Israel entirely?

No, in fact Trump has upped the anti for more US tax dollars to increase "defense" spending, which actually means more gifts of armaments to state terrorist Israel and state-sponsored terrorist House of Saud and the Wahhabis, with hundreds of millions in sales of jet fighters and artillery and ordnance and guns and ammo.

Trump has made a career of putting other people's money where his mouth is, so you think he's going to cut that off?

Yeah, like that's going to happen.


Um, why would he cut off Saudi or Israel?



Yeah, that was my point. Thanks for waking up.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 9:02:21 AM)

I bet you the skint fuk has already pawned it




Chaska -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 10:50:22 AM)

FR

It seems times have changed.




Chaska -> RE: Great Again - Trump Doesn’t Bow To Saudi Royalty (5/22/2017 11:24:38 AM)

I'm going to get right to it. I've grow tired of your passive aggressive, disingenuous and evasive BULL Shite.
Another poster came forward and told you bosco was spot on lucy (who you defended ) was trolling, it's also not as if she has NOT done it before. Instead of addressing the poster you avoided having "THE BALLS" (your own words) to admit you were wrong or show other wise. You talk about being honest and authentic expecting it in others, yet fail miserably, just another self righteous hypocrite. FYI: This same poster pointed out I made a math err sometime back I acknowledge my mistake done over no big deal.

You were one that would entrust lucy (Part of the clan, what joke that would be) as a mod knowing she does troll and I even caught her in a lie here. Just like you she avoided the post where was the honesty and being authentic! Two peas in a pod you both. It's no surprise that I hear the mods were corrupt bias POS of the same ilk.

You can't deny the clan and how when one sinks their teeth in the rest come to divvy the prey especially new meat (posters) hell a blind man can see it happens. It's obvious only a few post here anymore most people tend to just avoid a toxic environment understandable so. Personally the virtual world doesn't hold the importance too me as it does others. I've been around long before this venue came to existence, if it were gone tomorrow it wouldn't have an impact on me one way or the other. No wonder " As The Collar Turns" it's fitting!
If y'all want your house to be a cesspool fine by me it's not my house.


In my world, the real world among friends and I, if one us is wrong we tell them so, that's what real friends do it's called being honest and authentic we respect and appreciate it. I evaluate someone solely on their character and would hope they do the same with me.

You have strutted around in this thread and elsewhere on this board with the look at me, blowing your own horn I'm so great, I do this, have done that and on and on when it has fuk all to do with the subject. In my nearly 66 yrs of real life experience I have found those
that do this are just trying to impress and most of the time (99.9%) are full of shit. I see right through your facade.




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