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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 12/13/2004 8:06:21 PM

DomButNotForgotn

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Obviously, certain actions can damage skin, even if only one once - heat, cutting, extreme abrasion, freezing, etc. I would imagine that repeated harsh caning or paddling would scar as well.

The only thing that comes to mind otherwise is frequently using weights on a womans outer labia (pussy lips), and using increasing weights will stretch that skin, and it will not recover - so I have read.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 3:08:21 AM

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ot make it sometimes easier sue some drinking alcohol in the enema let get a buzz it makes it easier for anal virgins.

NEVER put liqior and other stuff in a enema because it's in the anal tissue it's absorbed a lot faster and readily than drinking by mouth and even the littleest bit can be leathal.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 4:58:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

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ot make it sometimes easier sue some drinking alcohol in the enema let get a buzz it makes it easier for anal virgins.

NEVER put liqior and other stuff in a enema because it's in the anal tissue it's absorbed a lot faster and readily than drinking by mouth and even the littleest bit can be leathal.

Did you post this to the right thread? There was no mention of alcofol enemas here. Perhaps you meant to post it somewhere else?

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 12:14:44 PM

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In one of the guys posts he mentiond it an creating a nice buzz I do belive it was this post.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 12:17:01 PM

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NEVER put liqior and other stuff in a enema because it's in the anal tissue it's absorbed a lot faster and readily than drinking by mouth and even the littleest bit can be leathal.

Doesn't really matter to me where she found it. Read it or whatever. All that matters is other people read it who haven't before. Maybe it can stop a tragedy from happening.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 4:10:58 PM

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Maybe. Not having enough or the right information can be tragic.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/8/2005 7:10:13 PM

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If caning is your pleasure, make sure your Master stays clear from doing any sort of caning behind the upper legs.... on the back part! DO NOT TOUCH THIS AREA!! Your Main leg arteries are back there and it can cause some severe damage!
this should only be done along the sides of upper legs..
if caning is done behind the upper legs up to the buttocks area, there is great risk of "Blood Clots" forming and causing possible strokes or blood clots in the legs that can shift to other areas and cause permanent damage!
Hope this helps!!
We must all be safe in being "subs".... sexually and otherwise!!

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/12/2005 11:52:07 AM

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Safewords only work with a dom who respects them. Doms who don't range fromt eh boyfriend 'pushing your limits' to the serial killer. In an optimal relationship, safewords should never be used but IMO should always be accessable. Last time I used one was because my hair was caught in the binding (not on purpose)...

I'm no longer lurking on another board because of comments about how 'fun' it is too flog a sub's kidneys. Do NOT let this happen to you. For Criminy's sakes, when they would flog prisoners they would protect the kidneys! An occassional miss should be fine, but gah!

Scene with a new Dom/me in public or in a safe house. This is risky behavior. Get references, if you can. Study yourself to know what is safe and what risks you are willing to take! And if you have any doubts, call Him/Her on them! Do not risk your health in ten years (or tomorrow) for a little pleasure now!

If you are very concerned about cetain whipping areas, an easy way for you (and a starting Dom/me?) would be to dress for it. Wear a leather girdle across your kidneys, pants up to your buttocks--- stray hits or deliberate stupid ones will be buffered by the leather... and it looks soooo good... mmmm....

Once you are tied up thought, you really are going only on trust. Make sure you TRUST, not just feel ok about it... NEVER be tied up on a first scene. Don't go for full body until you can TRUST.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/13/2005 8:36:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: sexysubbunny

If caning is your pleasure, make sure your Master stays clear from doing any sort of caning behind the upper legs.... on the back part! DO NOT TOUCH THIS AREA!! Your Main leg arteries are back there and it can cause some severe damage!
this should only be done along the sides of upper legs..
if caning is done behind the upper legs up to the buttocks area, there is great risk of "Blood Clots" forming and causing possible strokes or blood clots in the legs that can shift to other areas and cause permanent damage!
Hope this helps!!
We must all be safe in being "subs".... sexually and otherwise!!

bunny

Actually tons of people LOVE inner thigh and upper thigh caning, and on the ass. I personally have been caned there often (though I don't love it). There's classes taught all the time about it.

There's fairly reasonable ways to do just about everything. Yes it's good to know the risks, but there's no reason not to enjoy caning on the thighs.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/13/2005 8:39:52 AM

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About the alcohol, yes it gets absorbed into the bloodstream much faster than it does through the stomach and how much you've had to eat isn't an issue.

But again there are ways to do it that are reasonably ok with little risk.

Let's work on doing things well and educated, not scared and paranoid.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/13/2005 2:10:55 PM

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Getting back to the original question, is there a possibility of permanent damage? For instance, I have noticed that I now have a lump in my nipple from clamps and play. Will it go away? Should I be concerned? There is no pain involved, just disconcerning.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/14/2005 5:30:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: sweetpleaser

Getting back to the original question, is there a possibility of permanent damage? For instance, I have noticed that I now have a lump in my nipple from clamps and play. Will it go away? Should I be concerned? There is no pain involved, just disconcerning.

Could be a benign cyst, scar tissue or something else completely. But you should get it checked out to make sure.

Yes, there's always a possibility of permanent damage.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/14/2005 6:57:31 PM

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Something I found out fairly recently about using clamps, or breast bondage, is that if you frequently cut off the blood supply for more than 10-20 minutes at a time, it eventually results in permanent tissue damage, loss of blood flow, and de-sensitization. I assume that applies to other areas too...

Minx

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/15/2005 8:51:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

Something I found out fairly recently about using clamps, or breast bondage, is that if you frequently cut off the blood supply for more than 10-20 minutes at a time, it eventually results in permanent tissue damage, loss of blood flow, and de-sensitization.

I've had nipple clamps, etc on for significantly longer than 10 - 20 minutes and I've been doing wiitwd for a couple of decades. NO ONE would ever suggest that my nipples have been de-sensitized! Hell, they're cum buttons. I have no tissue damage, etc from clamps or other things that restrict blood flow to any body part. This may be true for some people, but it's certainly not always the case.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/16/2005 12:55:50 AM

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Alcohol in enemas can be dangerous. The reason is that when ingested orally it is broken down and processed through the liver. When administered anally it is absorbed directly into the bloodsteam. It never passed through the bodies natural "filters" that are designed to process it. Alcohol poisening possibility is increased if the person is also consuming it in the normal fashion. It IS true (while rare) that people have died from this. Care should always be used when inserting any foriegn substance in the rectum. Do please keep in mind it is designed as an exit port, not a entry port.
Any play that is close to or directly over vital organs should be done with caution. Any abnormal cysts or bumps, or lumps, or other anomaly should be brought to the attention of you physician immediatly.
Caning on the bottom and upper thighs is realitivly safe. Of course body type, muscle and fat density, age and similar factors can play into this. I have caned both male and females on bottom and thighs with no lasting problems for years. And DAMN it was fun too. :)

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 4/30/2005 11:32:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: kyakitten

For instance I read that her anus changes visibly after frequent anal sex - true? But that's it's not detrimental to - ummm - other functions over the long term?

And I read yesterday that breast whipping can cause tissue damage and lumps - which seems easy to believe if it were done badly - so I guess my question here is not whether it can but whether it usually does? And if so, would that extend to slapping too?

OK technical stuff here. Regular anal or large butt plugs will cause your brain to learn to relax your anus more.

Should you start losing control of your bowels, you have a motor cortex problem and need to learn some "tighten up" exercises.

IBS, Diverticulitis et al, digestive enzymes. Get two or three different kinds.

I recommend you visit http://lef.org

I have no personal stake in this group. They are just a bunch of guys who want to live a long time. It is the Life Extension foundation. I have found them over the years to be both knowledgeable and ethical.

If you are going to do this and do not want bad things to happen to you, you are going to need to pay attention to what you eat, how you exercise or move your body, personally I dance amoungst other things, and pay attention to your thoughts.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 5/2/2005 8:38:29 PM

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really off topic-- but that cock in your attached image is huge! insanely huge!

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 5/3/2005 10:20:01 AM

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For *you* green means that...but how do you know that green doesn't mean something different to the poster you were responding to? Afterall, it is their safewords apparently and nothing really is universal.

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 7/14/2005 4:27:24 PM

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Definitely avoid whip strokes to the kidneys. They fucking hurt.

..................and they are VERY BAD for your health. All the guides on starting out on BDSM say never whip or hit the kidney area (just above your hips,I think).

HalloweenWhite.

< Message edited by HalloweenWhite -- 7/14/2005 4:34:49 PM >

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RE: Visible Changes to Sub's Body? - 8/13/2005 8:53:38 AM

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FYI for all the ladies.....i just had a mammogram two days ago, although i'm not old enough to require them regularly. i had found a very prominent lump in my breast that had appeared quite quickly. It was under the center of a very nasty (i.e. delicious!) bruise, so i hoped it had to do with being beaten, but it was alarming nonetheless.

Results of the mammogram were great - no problems! BUT the doc said it was indeed most likely that the beating had caused the lump (it appeared about 4 days after).

No harm done, just a little panic on my part. The doc did say that since the lump had been sensitive (even after the bruise faded) that was a "good" sign, and that dangerous lumps are not normally sensitive.

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