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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/8/2017 6:28:42 PM   
tamaka


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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Ummm... no. That's not true at all. Not in the least.



Yes it is.

You denying it doesn't change it.

If he were to try to keep you as a free women, he'd lose you.
If he were to try to keep you as Ullr keeps me, he'd lose you.
If he were to try to keep you as a submissive, he'd lose you.
If he were to try to keep you in a way that doesn't conform to your idea of what it means to be a slave, he'd lose you.





I see what you're saying.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 12:57:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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She has no wish to die, and I have no wish to go to prison. Yet, we still did this. Why? Because we wanted to, despite the risks. It's as simple as that.

To me, this is about assessing and mitigating risks.


Well said, that's important.

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After this experience, have you considered *not* being the only captor? Since the discussion has been about the influence of time distortion, in the future, would you consider additional people in the scenario? I've been the 'fill in' before while the main captor slept. Have you evaluated the possibility?


I never considered it. It might work with a female co-captor. If you (or any other female dominants who read this) are interested, I would at least be open to discussion. It would be useful during the times I need to go into the office or travel for work. I travel for a week or so at a time a few times per year, which might throw a wrench in the works if I get a long term captive. No sexual contact with me required, nor desired, unless "you" are a switch (not you, LadyPact, it's clear you are not) who might need some rough treatment yourself at times. The spare bedroom is conveniently right next to the cell, as well... (I don't say only females because I'm going to be creepy, that's definitely not my style. I just find other mens' fluids and scent on my girls disgusting. I can send my girl to another guy, that's fine if they shower afterwards, but I don't share in realtime.)

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Travel. I've only done this (as a minor participant) where the logistics were easier. No airports, etc. How did this impact your plans?


It wasn't really an issue. The next time I have Ishtar it will begin with an abduction, bundling her into the back of a van in CO and driving 16 hours to CA. All involved love that idea. But picking her up at the airport was fine. It's all the same once she's in my house.

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The cold. Was the cold intentional or just something you lucked into by circumstance?


Cold was unintentional, and something I remedied once she told me about it. In my opinion, certain experiences (prolonged cold, sleep deprivation, hunger, thirst, a few others) are really just miserable. It's not really hard to make someone miserable, just start removing elements from the hierarchy of needs and you can reduce someone to a desperate animal. But that's not sexy to me, I really do want my captives to enjoy their treatment on some level. I definitely think it's possible for a sub to be turned on by this treatment, and in that case I would happily do it. I like doing almost anything to my victims that I would personally find really terrible, it's not a requirement that they don't like it. And also note, that I'm not against doing these things at all... We terminated Ishtar's captivity ahead of schedule on Saturday night. Monday was going to be a 'no food day' for Ishtar. (And remember room, she had been on 1200cal/day of soylent for a week... On no food day I was going to eat a big juicy steak using her as my plate :)). But I generally wouldn't make these sorts of things the default.

I let Ishtar use the blanket for the couple of days it took the space heater to arrive. Once I put the space heater in the cell room, she no longer needed the blanket for warmth, but she was still really attached to it. The psychological side effect of taking away her blanket was a happy coincidence.

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Journal. This, I thought, was excellent! Who's idea was this? Did you keep a log of time intervals or specific notations about entries she wrote post activity?


Ishtar brought it up first, but I quickly agreed because this was already in my plans. Her writing it in a language I can't understand was not :). I think back and laugh, because after I gave her the first piece of paper to write her journal, I left the cell, but then walked back in a few minutes later to tell her, "One more thing: I don't want you to filter yourself at all when you're writing your journal entries. Pretend like I'm not going to read them. It will be interesting and valuable to look back on them later. There will be no repercussions for anything you write here." I didn't look down at what she had already written, when I said this I had no idea the little cunt was already writing in an obscure dialect of a foreign language, lol.

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Your own struggle. How would you define your side of Ish wanting release?


I'll not answer this one in public, too much risk of humanizing me in Ishtar's eyes :). And probably not in private either, to people who aren't very close friends. I'll summarize with: it was a very difficult time, and the primary emotion I felt was crushing disappointment, that I had fucked up and ruined one of the best experiences of my life.

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After this experience, how do you feel about the circumstances of Ishtar leaving, getting on the plane, no escort, etc? Will this be something you do differently in the future?


Definitely. I wasn't thinking too clearly at the time either. Ishtar has since diagnosed me with a strong case of 'TopSpace'. If she was injured, we needed to go to the emergency room, not the airport. Ullr has already mandated that in future captivities for Ishtar, there will be a one or two day 'cooling off' period at the end of the captivity, where she's still in the cell, but not bound or tortured. This is a great idea that I'll implement for all captives.


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With Ishtar's mention of the experience that she had, what will be your criteria for other captives? Do you have certain hard limits that would exclude potential participants? Are there certain people you would blackball immediately due to age, health status, gender, etc?


I don't currently plan on changing my selection criteria much. I want to try the other process changes I have in mind first, before I start making my selection criteria more restrictive. It's already hard enough to find (female) prisoners.






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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 1:58:27 AM   
LadyPact


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Why is this thread still running?

Oh, that's easy to answer...

This site has all these neat little sections about what goes where as far as posting topics. Seems to me, we're currently posting in the area known as General BDSM Discussion. Last time I checked, "BDSM" stands for bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism, or sadomasochism if you prefer. (I'm actually not one of those people who incorporate Dominance and submission into the acronym, because if that were accurate, the initials would be BDDSSM, or people can show me another acronym where any of the individual letters stand for multiple words that were clustered within the DSM the same way.)

It further seems to me that the original, and several subsequent posts, very much fall into the category of BDSM, if not all of the parts within it, depending on perspective. If nothing else, it's got a heck of a lot more to do with kink than asking people how they scratch their back, asking people if they are genuine, rants about findom, or two thirds of the other stuff that lands in this section. Really, it's not that difficult to figure out.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Are any of you two women I must know or shut your fuking gobs

I get that some people have serious reading comprehension problems, but try to keep up. Sometimes, it's best not to comment when a person hasn't read the whole thread.

During the span of this thread, she's mentioned that she was at a major kink convention, with eleven hundred other people. I saw her at said event, which is why I've made the posts that I have. (In fact, she mentioned that I was there before I did.) Yes, she's married to Ullr. Yes, "t" was with them. (She's quite nice, btw.) Yes, I can assure people that really is her in the pictures she's posted over the years. In fact, two of the pictures that I came away from the event with were one of myself and Ishtar, and the other was a picture of Ishtar, Ullr, and t. Said pictures will not be posted as 'proof,' verification, or any other thing, just because some attention seeker feels the need to see them. As far as I'm concerned, they are private stash, and that's how they will remain.

I do want to say another word about the attention seeking behavior that's been on this thread. I really don't understand anybody's constant craving for attention, even when they act out to get any form of negative attention, because, as the saying goes, even negative attention is better than no attention at all. That's rather dismal, and frankly, makes me wonder just what is lacking. If a person feels attention is a 'need,' rather than a 'want,' there's some self-evaluation that is probably in order.

With this in mind, I'm going back to the actual discussion, rather than this other crap.


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The cold. Was the cold intentional or just something you lucked into by circumstance?



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It was accidental. And I want to state for the record that it really WASN'T at all cold. It was low room temperature. I just was naked, unable to move to generate heat, attached to several heat sinks AND I found out that I apparently have a unusually big intolerance for being cold.

Having been an insomniac during certain periods, (not kink related) I can attest that even a few degrees (F) can make a huge difference. It's the body's physical response to sleep deprivation. It can be 65 degrees (F) and the person will feel like the cold is 'enveloping' them. It shifts the person's mental perspective, changing their focus.

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In fact, my intolerance for being cold is so great that it's currently added to my Hard Limit list with third parties, possibly indefinitely, but at least until after it's fully explored with Ullr.

In my experience, this is probably correct.

Oddly enough, when I lived in AK, it was surprising to me how many people had a hard limit of cold.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Journal. This, I thought, was excellent! Who's idea was this?




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My idea. I was afraid my memory wouldn't be good enough after long periods (turns out I was 100% right). Cali was very interested in the idea, because it would give him a grasp on my mindset during the event, without having to check in with me. I got his permission to write it quite easily.

I would have been exceptionally interested in this! I would have like to see what was going on mentally. The process would have been fascinating!

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You should have seen his face when he realized the first journal was entirely in Flemish.

Not only was it in Flemish, I also wrote it in a dialect, and added deliberate misspellings, so that an online translator would be useless.

OK, but that's cheating.






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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 11:17:41 AM   
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OK, but that's cheating.




*Looks all innocently*

How's that cheating? Cali told me to write it just for myself, as if he wasn't going to read it...

And I switched the next day to doing parts of it in English, very specific parts where I had something to say which I wanted him to know. But I kept parts of it in Flemish all the way through.

Because of our early end, and the debriefing with Cali in regard to my mental state, and its decline, I actually gave him translations of my Flemish journals afterwards, because I thought certain mood shifts in them were relevant to him for future terms... but that's something he wouldn't have gotten if I'd made it the full term.

You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 12:00:52 PM   
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OK, but that's cheating.






You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.


Am i the only one who would really like to hear about this? I would love to hear it!

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 1:43:30 PM   
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OK, but that's cheating.




*Looks all innocently*

How's that cheating? Cali told me to write it just for myself, as if he wasn't going to read it...

And I switched the next day to doing parts of it in English, very specific parts where I had something to say which I wanted him to know. But I kept parts of it in Flemish all the way through.

Because of our early end, and the debriefing with Cali in regard to my mental state, and its decline, I actually gave him translations of my Flemish journals afterwards, because I thought certain mood shifts in them were relevant to him for future terms... but that's something he wouldn't have gotten if I'd made it the full term.

You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.

Sorry for the poor quote.

I would have asked to see the writings, if for no other reason than I would have wanted to learn more from the subject's point of view. I would have found the mental process from the other side useful. It would have been a shame if such information wouldn't be accessible had you made the full term. I'd have been disappointed.


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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 1:53:32 PM   
tamaka


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OK, but that's cheating.




*Looks all innocently*

How's that cheating? Cali told me to write it just for myself, as if he wasn't going to read it...

And I switched the next day to doing parts of it in English, very specific parts where I had something to say which I wanted him to know. But I kept parts of it in Flemish all the way through.

Because of our early end, and the debriefing with Cali in regard to my mental state, and its decline, I actually gave him translations of my Flemish journals afterwards, because I thought certain mood shifts in them were relevant to him for future terms... but that's something he wouldn't have gotten if I'd made it the full term.

You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.

Sorry for the poor quote.

I would have asked to see the writings, if for no other reason than I would have wanted to learn more from the subject's point of view. I would have found the mental process from the other side useful. It would have been a shame if such information wouldn't be accessible had you made the full term. I'd have been disappointed.



You'd think after the first day He would have ordered her to write it in English.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 2:18:26 PM   
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You'd think after the first day He would have ordered her to write it in English.

Not my way.

I'd have asked; Not demanded. My personal feelings about these kinds of things is that I'm not entitled. A person can choose, voluntarily to share it, but I'm not owed. It's not my place to rob the other person of what they experience or try to force them to make it my own.



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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 2:27:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OK, but that's cheating.




*Looks all innocently*

How's that cheating? Cali told me to write it just for myself, as if he wasn't going to read it...

And I switched the next day to doing parts of it in English, very specific parts where I had something to say which I wanted him to know. But I kept parts of it in Flemish all the way through.

Because of our early end, and the debriefing with Cali in regard to my mental state, and its decline, I actually gave him translations of my Flemish journals afterwards, because I thought certain mood shifts in them were relevant to him for future terms... but that's something he wouldn't have gotten if I'd made it the full term.

You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.

Sorry for the poor quote.

I would have asked to see the writings, if for no other reason than I would have wanted to learn more from the subject's point of view. I would have found the mental process from the other side useful. It would have been a shame if such information wouldn't be accessible had you made the full term. I'd have been disappointed.



I wouldn't have made it available, for the same reason that you -and Cali, and Ullr, and Ullr's best friend, and every other goddamn Top who's got an interest in doing this- keeps telling me: "There's certain things I won't discuss with you, or else it'd ruin the surprise.".

There's things like that from my perspective too.
For instance, I have a phobia Cali doesn't know about. He hit it a couple of times by accident while I was locked up, and it was hard for me to deal with when he did. However, I'm not giving that kind of info to a sadist who's got free reign to do whatever he wants.
It could easily be very very bad for me if Cali knew such trigger points.

We are simulated a real situation of kidnapping and captivity after all... I'm not handing him the keys to the kingdom like that on a silver platter... he's gotta do the work to figure these things out himself.

So yeah, I journalled about things like that, because hitting them is still relevant towards my own experiences. And when I offered translations to Cali because of our mishap at the end, I told him I'd edit details like that out of the translations (and I did) so if there were weird gaps it'd be because there was a section of 'classified information'.

If my grasp on reality hadn't ended imploding like it did, I would have considered my mental headspace equally 'classified information', to be shared at my whim and discretion.

Ya'll are not filling *me* in on what's going on in your head while all this is going on. Cali didn't offer me a write up of his experiences... I don't see why ya'll should just get a free pass into my head either.

We are playing cat and mouse here after all. And I've never seen a mouse walk up to a cat to inform it where it was hiding when the cat couldn't find it.






< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 8/9/2017 2:31:03 PM >


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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 2:30:37 PM   
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You'd think after the first day He would have ordered her to write it in English.




How exactly would he have done that?

There's no way to force me to write anything of use to him in English.

The only thing he would have accomplished was taking away my opportunity to write in Flemish... it still wouldn't have gotten him what he wanted.

And after the first day, I actually wrote some journal content in English. Some of it very useful and relevant to him. If he'd try to force me to write all of it in English, I would have denied him even that much, and would have given him nothing but useless nonsense.

There's limits to what you can force an unwilling subject to do tamaka...

And Cali is too smart to attempt to give any order he couldn't enforce.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 5:41:24 PM   
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You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.


Am i the only one who would really like to hear about this? I would love to hear it!




It’s kinda hard to tell you some of those tamaka, without giving away certain things I don’t want Cali to know about. So I wrote up this one. It’s not the best example, but it should give you some idea of some of the games I played with Cali’s slave.

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In the first mail Cali ever wrote me, he told me he had a slave, and that while in captivity, she’d be my Mistress, and I’d be expected to submit to her.

I wrote him back *rather hostily* that while I had no delusions about the fact that with enough force, I could be made to obey another woman, but that under no circumstance I’d be submitting to one, let alone a slave. I told him that I don’t submit to girls, they submit to me.

Cali seemed to find that answer quite amusing.

A couple days into my captivity, I was bored and eyeing the camera that was unrelentingly trained upon me. I still didn’t know that much about it. Was it being watched? Recorded? Who was watching it? How attentive were they? Was the feed displayed on some stationary screen downstairs and mostly ignored, or moved around and actively monitored? Was there and audio feed?

I knew Cali was home. I could hear him banging away in the garage with the metal pipes, doubtlessly building some new torture contraption I’d soon get introduced to. Meanwhile Cali’s slavegirls were chattering away making noises that made me sure they were engaged in some sort of household chores. Everybody was engaged in activities and I decide it was time to find out how much leeway that gave me in regard to my every move being monitored.

Luck would have it that Cali gave me the perfect tool to run some tests with. You see, one of the restraints currently on me was my chastity belt, and he’d left my Hitachi in the cage with me just to constantly remind me of the fact that I couldn’t even masturbate to pass the time. So I picked up the useless vibrator, crawled to the edge of the cage, and threw it as far as I could passed the bars. I made sure that while I tossed it, I kept firm control over the cord, and so one the Hitachi had landed with a satisfying thud, I let the cord fall after it, making sure that while it looked out of reach I could still just barely reach the end.

And then I listened....

Sure enough, within seconds I could hear rapid footfalls running through the house, the garage door opened and a shrill voice shrieked “MASTER!!!! … (inaudible muttering)!”.
I grinned and went to sit back in the back of the cage. Moments later Cali slammed the door open and walked in with a suspicious look on his face. I didn’t want to give him a chance to think through what was happening, and so before he had a chance to speak, I interrupted him, and pointing at the vibrator with my shackled hands I grinned: “I decided I was fed up with it tempting me, and decided to put it out of reach.”.

Cali looked at the discarded toy and laughed. “Getting a little too frustrated huh?” he grinned back, and I nodded eagerly. For a moment I was afraid he was going to put the Hitachi back in the cage and find some way to secure it, but it seemed like he either didn’t think it worth the effort, or didn’t have time to be bothered with doing that at the moment.
“Well then, it sucks to be you.” he smiled, and walked out again, locking the door behind him.

I waited what seemed an appropriate time for the household to settle back into it’s routine. When Cali was again banging away in the garage, and the girls were busy chirping about, I decided it was time for the second round of my test: Did Cali’s slaves notice what I did because of the sound, or were they actually watching? Based on the noises and smells -you’ll never know how far the faint smell of steak carries until you haven’t eaten in a few days- I surmised that they were now in the middle of cooking. They couldn’t be watching that closely.

So back to the front of the cage I crept, making sure I held my leash chain so it wouldn’t make any noises. I carefully stuck my shackled hands through the bars without bumping them, and attempted to reach the cord of the thing Cali was trying to torture me with, but which now had become a tool I was using to my benefit, despite Cali’s intentions for its purpose.

I listen, and sure enough, in less than a minute I heard shrieks, and the predictable door opening, and the unavoidable: “MASTER! …. (inaudible)!”. I quickly pulled the vibrator through the bars, and went back to the back of the cage.

Moments later the door again slammed open, and Cali bursted in. Without even looking at me, his eyes went straight to the spot that moments before had held my Hitachi, and from there to the shelf not far off to the side of it. On this simple metal wire shelf, Cali kept some of the bondage toys he used on me. There were also some random carabiners and bits of chain, locks, and other forced captivity paraphernalia. I’d surveyed the content long ago, but there was nothing there that would have been even remotely useful, even if I’d figured out how to get my hands on any of it -which I hadn’t.

Cali was now suspiciously eyeing the shelf, and started to move some random bits out of the room, none of it of particular interest to me.
While he was doing that I offered to him: “I decided I wanted the Hitachi back after all, to give it one last try.”. In a tone dripping with sarcasm I added: “You mentioned how much you enjoy seeing me attempt to find some way to get through enough sensation to cum, and after all I am here for your pleasure and amusement…”.
He grunted something back, and walked out with an arm full of random useless objects.

I smiled to myself, but then the smiled turned into a frown. I knew I’d been quiet. I hadn’t made a sound. I’d taken my time. Cali’s slaves had been busy, I could hear them. And yet, it’s taken them less than a minute to go tattle on me. Either there was some motion sensor alert (unlikely, that’d be too inaccurate and annoying), or the girls were carrying whatever screen my feed was on around with them and were watching it like a chihuahua lays in lurk for the mailman to come by -unable to discriminate what’s important from what’s not, but relentlessly yipping nonetheless.

Or maybe it’d just been a coincidence, and they normally didn’t pay that much attention. I decided on another test, but throwing the vibrator back and forward had become a little too suspicious. But once again, things were going my way, as my water bottle was entirely empty and Cali hadn’t bothered filling it last time around. My stomach was growling too, and if it wasn’t for the water I’m sure I could have used that as an excuse as well, but water is so much harder to deny than food, so for once the lack of it was quite convenient.

I again silently started creeping to the bars, and once there stuck my hands out reaching for nothing. Because of the location of the camera and it’s angle, I was pretty sure my hands wouldn’t be visible on camera at all, and so it didn’t really matter I didn’t have anything for them to ‘do’. As long as what I was doing looked suspicious on the feed, it was all the trigger I needed.

I listened intently while silently counted to myself, and before long I noticed the desired effect. Rapid footseps, the predictable sound of the door, and the inevitable: “MASTER! … (inaudible mumbling.”. Again I retreated to the back of my cage, and again Cali showed up not too long after. This time he was visibly annoyed. “What now?” he snapped at me.

I pointed to the empty water feeder. “I’m thirsty.” I said accusingly, “And if you’re girls are going to play watch dog anyways, I might as well use them to get your attention, instead of wearing out my throat hollering in an attempt to get your attention.” Cali’s gaze went to the empty water bottle and he nodded. “And besides,” I added defiantly, “when I call you, you often ignore me. I noticed the last two times that this isn’t at all the case when you’re worried I’m up to something.”

Cali laughed, and went to get the water. Moments later he returned. As he was pouring the water, I told him “Thank you.” As much as I’d been pushing him in the last few hours, I was still naked, in chains, locked into a cage. Something in me told me that it’s best not to push one’s luck too far in these circumstances, and a little polite respect doesn’t cost much after all.

On that note I decided that it was probably best not to conduct any more tests today. Cali was obviously working on something, and the constant interruptions weren’t improving his mood any. So far he hadn’t disciplined me for messing around a bit, because, really I hadn’t technically done anything I wasn’t allowed to do, but who knows how much that would matter if I really got him annoyed?

“I’m hungry too.” I said, “Do you mind giving me my dinner now, or do I need to perform more mischief for that?”.
“Now is fine.” Cali replied, and moments later he walked in with my dog bowl with the 400 calories worth of Soylent that constituted my last meal of the day.
“Thank you.” I told him again, “Oh and before I forget, please tell the girls ‘thank you’ from me as well. They really were very obedient in fetching you when I ordered them to.”

As I say this I hear loud angry shrieks coming from downstairs.
“Apparently they heard me.” I suggest.
“Yeah,” Cali replies, “they probably did.”
“So the camera has audio too then?” I slyly ask.
Cali nods, as he’s putting down my bowl in the cage.
Triumphantly I say: “Well I warned you in my first mail that I have a dominant personality when it comes to girls!”
“Yup, you did.”, Cali replies as he’s locking the door to my cage. “You and your dominant personality have fun lapping your dinner up out of your bowl.” and smirking he walked out.

Well… I now had my dinner, fresh water and a bunch of new info. The camera had audio. When the girls were home it was unlikely I’d get away with anything without them finding out in minutes. Anything I didn’t want immediately noticed couldn’t be done with them around.
And when Cali was in the garage, he didn’t watch the feed himself… at least not while the slave-chihuahuas were around.

Cali later told me that the girls were quite upset at being played like that. After all, which ‘first girl’ wants to be bossed around into playing a game of fetch by a naked chick, in chains, locked in a cage?


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(Cross posted on Fet, where it'll probably be edited, lengthened, and fleshed out a bit more over the next few days: https://fetlife.com/users/1692623/posts/4593980)


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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 5:54:53 PM   
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That's hilarious. And brilliant.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 6:20:14 PM   
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You forget, LP, that whether I'm sexually submissive or not, I'm also still a sadist (one of the worst) to the core... that doesn't go away just because I'm locked up in a cage.
I will still take my sadistic pleasures when I can.

I did so several times with Cali's slavegirls, to the point that I had one of them in tears a couple of times.


Am i the only one who would really like to hear about this? I would love to hear it!




It’s kinda hard to tell you some of those tamaka, without giving away certain things I don’t want Cali to know about. So I wrote up this one. It’s not the best example, but it should give you some idea of some of the games I played with Cali’s slave.

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In the first mail Cali ever wrote me, he told me he had a slave, and that while in captivity, she’d be my Mistress, and I’d be expected to submit to her.

I wrote him back *rather hostily* that while I had no delusions about the fact that with enough force, I could be made to obey another woman, but that under no circumstance I’d be submitting to one, let alone a slave. I told him that I don’t submit to girls, they submit to me.

Cali seemed to find that answer quite amusing.

A couple days into my captivity, I was bored and eyeing the camera that was unrelentingly trained upon me. I still didn’t know that much about it. Was it being watched? Recorded? Who was watching it? How attentive were they? Was the feed displayed on some stationary screen downstairs and mostly ignored, or moved around and actively monitored? Was there and audio feed?

I knew Cali was home. I could hear him banging away in the garage with the metal pipes, doubtlessly building some new torture contraption I’d soon get introduced to. Meanwhile Cali’s slavegirls were chattering away making noises that made me sure they were engaged in some sort of household chores. Everybody was engaged in activities and I decide it was time to find out how much leeway that gave me in regard to my every move being monitored.

Luck would have it that Cali gave me the perfect tool to run some tests with. You see, one of the restraints currently on me was my chastity belt, and he’d left my Hitachi in the cage with me just to constantly remind me of the fact that I couldn’t even masturbate to pass the time. So I picked up the useless vibrator, crawled to the edge of the cage, and threw it as far as I could passed the bars. I made sure that while I tossed it, I kept firm control over the cord, and so one the Hitachi had landed with a satisfying thud, I let the cord fall after it, making sure that while it looked out of reach I could still just barely reach the end.

And then I listened....

Sure enough, within seconds I could hear rapid footfalls running through the house, the garage door opened and a shrill voice shrieked “MASTER!!!! … (inaudible muttering)!”.
I grinned and went to sit back in the back of the cage. Moments later Cali slammed the door open and walked in with a suspicious look on his face. I didn’t want to give him a chance to think through what was happening, and so before he had a chance to speak, I interrupted him, and pointing at the vibrator with my shackled hands I grinned: “I decided I was fed up with it tempting me, and decided to put it out of reach.”.

Cali looked at the discarded toy and laughed. “Getting a little too frustrated huh?” he grinned back, and I nodded eagerly. For a moment I was afraid he was going to put the Hitachi back in the cage and find some way to secure it, but it seemed like he either didn’t think it worth the effort, or didn’t have time to be bothered with doing that at the moment.
“Well then, it sucks to be you.” he smiled, and walked out again, locking the door behind him.

I waited what seemed an appropriate time for the household to settle back into it’s routine. When Cali was again banging away in the garage, and the girls were busy chirping about, I decided it was time for the second round of my test: Did Cali’s slaves notice what I did because of the sound, or were they actually watching? Based on the noises and smells -you’ll never know how far the faint smell of steak carries until you haven’t eaten in a few days- I surmised that they were now in the middle of cooking. They couldn’t be watching that closely.

So back to the front of the cage I crept, making sure I held my leash chain so it wouldn’t make any noises. I carefully stuck my shackled hands through the bars without bumping them, and attempted to reach the cord of the thing Cali was trying to torture me with, but which now had become a tool I was using to my benefit, despite Cali’s intentions for its purpose.

I listen, and sure enough, in less than a minute I heard shrieks, and the predictable door opening, and the unavoidable: “MASTER! …. (inaudible)!”. I quickly pulled the vibrator through the bars, and went back to the back of the cage.

Moments later the door again slammed open, and Cali bursted in. Without even looking at me, his eyes went straight to the spot that moments before had held my Hitachi, and from there to the shelf not far off to the side of it. On this simple metal wire shelf, Cali kept some of the bondage toys he used on me. There were also some random carabines and bits of chain, locks, and other forced captivity paraphilia. I’d surveyed the content long ago, but there was nothing there that would have been even remotely useful, even if I’d figured out how to get my hands on any of it -which I hadn’t.

Cali was now suspiciously eying the shelf, and started to move some random bits out of the room, none of it of particular interest to me.
While he was doing that I offered to him: “I decided I wanted the Hitachi back after all, to give it one last try.”. In a tone dripping with sarcasm I added: “You mentioned how much you enjoy seeing me attempt to find some way to get through enough sensation to cum, and after all I am here for your pleasure and amusement…”.
He grunted something back, and walked out with an arm full of random useless objects.

I smiled to myself, but then the smiled turned into a frown. I knew I’d been quiet. I hadn’t made a sound. I’d taken my time. Cali’s slaves had been busy, I could hear them. And yet, it’s taken them less than a minute to go tattle on me. Either there was some motion sensor alert (unlikely, that’d be too inaccurate and annoying), or the girls were carrying whatever screen my feed was on around with them and were watching it like a chihuahua lays in lurk for the mailman to come by -unable to discriminate what’s important from what’s not, but unrelentlessly yipping nonetheless.

Or maybe it’d just been a coincidence, and they normally didn’t pay that much attention. I decided on another test, but throwing the vibrator back and forward had become a little too suspicious. But once again, things were going my way, as my water bottle was entirely empty and Cali hadn’t bothered filling it last time around. My stomach was growling too, and if it wasn’t for the water I’m sure I could have used that as an excuse as well, but water is so much harder to deny than food, so for once the lack of it was quite convenient.

I again silently started creeping to the bars, and once there stuck my hands out reaching for nothing. Because of the location of the camera and it’s angle, I was pretty sure my hands wouldn’t be visible on camera at all, and so it didn’t really matter I didn’t have anything for them to ‘do’. As long as what I was doing looked suspicious on the feed, it was all the trigger I needed.

I listened intently while silently counted to myself, and before long I noticed the desired effect. Rapid footseps, the predictable sound of the door, and the inevitable: “MASTER! … (inaudible mumbling.”. Again I retreated to the back of my cage, and again Cali showed up not too long after. This time he was visibly annoyed. “What now?” he snapped at me.

I pointed to the empty water feeder. “I’m thirsty.” I said accusingly, “And if you’re girls are going to play watch dog anyways, I might as well use them to get your attention, instead of wearing out my throat hollering in an attempt to get your attention.” Cali’s gaze went to the empty water bottle and he nodded. “And besides,” I added defiantly, “when I call you, you often ignore me. I noticed the last two times that this isn’t at all the case when you’re worried I’m up to something.”

Cali laughed, and went to get the water. Moments later he returned. As he was pouring the water, I told him “Thank you.” As much as I’d been pushing him in the last few hours, I was still naked, in chains, locked into a cage. Something in me told me that it’s best not to push one’s luck too far in these circumstances, and a little polite respect doesn’t cost much after all.

On that note I decided that it was probably best not to conduct any more tests today. Cali was obviously working on something, and the constant interruptions weren’t improving his mood any. So far he hadn’t disciplined me for messing around a bit, because, really I hadn’t technically done anything I wasn’t allowed to do, but who knows how much that would matter if I really got him annoyed?

“I’m hungry too.” I said, “Do you mind giving me my dinner now, or do I need to perform more mischief for that?”.
“Now is fine.” Cali replied, and moments later he walked in with my dog bowl with the 400 calories worth of Soylent that constituted my last meal of the day.
“Thank you.” I told him again, “Oh and before I forget, please tell the girls ‘thank you’ from me as well. They really were very obedient in fetching you when I ordered them to.”

As I say this I hear loud angry shrieks coming from downstairs.
“Apparently they heard me.” I suggest.
“Yeah,” Cali replies, “they probably did.”
“So the camera has audio too then?” I slyly ask.
Cali nods, as he’s putting down my bowl in the cage.
Triumphantly I say: “Well I warned you in my first mail that I have a dominant personality when it comes to girls!”
“Yup, you did.”, Cali replies as he’s locking the door to my cage. “You and your dominant personality have fun lapping your dinner up out of your bowl.” and smirking he walked out.

Well… I now had my dinner, fresh water and a bunch of new info. The camera had audio. When the girls were home it was unlikely I’d get away with anything without them finding out in minutes. Anything I didn’t want immediately noticed couldn’t be done with them around.
And when Cali was in the garage, he didn’t watch the feed himself… at least not while the slave-chihuahuas were around.

Cali later told me that the girls were quite upset at being played like that. After all, which ‘first girl’ wants to be bossed around into playing a game of fetch by a naked chick, in chains, locked in a cage?


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(Cross posted on Fet, where it'll probably be edited, lengthened, and fleshed out a bit more over the next few days: https://fetlife.com/users/1692623/posts/4593980)




Very cool. Thanks for writing it. I thought it was going to be harsh, so it was much different than i thought. Instead of harsh, it was clever.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 6:49:59 PM   
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Very cool. Thanks for writing it. I thought it was going to be harsh, so it was much different than i thought. Instead of harsh, it was clever.



It's hard to be very harsh when you're locked up in chains the entire time.

The worse thing I actually did to her was look her straight in the eye and reply "Nope" to a direct order she'd given me.

I'm scary enough (ask those who've met me offline) that she backed off too.

But most of it was just deliberate psychological warfare.




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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 8:53:31 PM   
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Very cool. Thanks for writing it. I thought it was going to be harsh, so it was much different than i thought. Instead of harsh, it was clever.



It's hard to be very harsh when you're locked up in chains the entire time.

The worse thing I actually did to her was look her straight in the eye and reply "Nope" to a direct order she'd given me.

I'm scary enough (ask those who've met me offline) that she backed off too.

But most of it was just deliberate psychological warfare.





Have you ever watched the Femme Nikita series?

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 9:09:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Very cool. Thanks for writing it. I thought it was going to be harsh, so it was much different than i thought. Instead of harsh, it was clever.



It's hard to be very harsh when you're locked up in chains the entire time.

The worse thing I actually did to her was look her straight in the eye and reply "Nope" to a direct order she'd given me.

I'm scary enough (ask those who've met me offline) that she backed off too.

But most of it was just deliberate psychological warfare.





Have you ever watched the Femme Nikita series?



Nope.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 9:15:54 PM   
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Very cool. Thanks for writing it. I thought it was going to be harsh, so it was much different than i thought. Instead of harsh, it was clever.



It's hard to be very harsh when you're locked up in chains the entire time.

The worse thing I actually did to her was look her straight in the eye and reply "Nope" to a direct order she'd given me.

I'm scary enough (ask those who've met me offline) that she backed off too.

But most of it was just deliberate psychological warfare.





Have you ever watched the Femme Nikita series?



I think it might be on netflix. If you have a chance sometime, you should check it out. I think you would like it.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 10:15:26 PM   
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I think it might be on netflix. If you have a chance sometime, you should check it out. I think you would like it.




Why? My mom used to watch it. I've seen bits and pieces. They didn't grab my interest in the least.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 10:21:32 PM   
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I think it might be on netflix. If you have a chance sometime, you should check it out. I think you would like it.




Why? My mom used to watch it. I've seen bits and pieces. They didn't grab my interest in the least.


Ok.... i thought you might like it if you watched it from the beginning she is basically held in captivity and her identity is changed and she us forced to obey her trainer and become a highly skilled assasin/spy etc. It's a pretty cool series.

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RE: Awesome scene lined up - 8/9/2017 11:12:30 PM   
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I wouldn't have made it available, for the same reason that you -and Cali, and Ullr, and Ullr's best friend, and every other goddamn Top who's got an interest in doing this- keeps telling me: "There's certain things I won't discuss with you, or else it'd ruin the surprise.".

I actually chuckled out loud at this part. "You and every other goddamn top..." LOL.

I still think I was right about that part. Some of the stuff I would have done are some of the same tactics your captor used. You didn't want me telling you that before your experience.

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There's things like that from my perspective too.
For instance, I have a phobia Cali doesn't know about. He hit it a couple of times by accident while I was locked up, and it was hard for me to deal with when he did. However, I'm not giving that kind of info to a sadist who's got free reign to do whatever he wants.
It could easily be very very bad for me if Cali knew such trigger points.

This one, I'll give you. I was just coming from my aspect of being interested in your thought processes after it was over. That's just me.

But then, there's Ullr.

Totally the potential for ammunition because there's always a possibility of next time. That's different than recap, comparing notes, or what I'd be interested in the journals for.

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We are simulated a real situation of kidnapping and captivity after all... I'm not handing him the keys to the kingdom like that on a silver platter... he's gotta do the work to figure these things out himself.

In your position, I can't say I blame you. I can say with absolute certainty that I wouldn't be signing up for this kind of thing from the other side of the kneel.

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So yeah, I journalled about things like that, because hitting them is still relevant towards my own experiences. And when I offered translations to Cali because of our mishap at the end, I told him I'd edit details like that out of the translations (and I did) so if there were weird gaps it'd be because there was a section of 'classified information'.

That would still be cool to me, though. I've never had that kind of detail (even with parts missing) from the experiences that I've done. I think having that kind of detail of a person's mental processes, as close to raw as it could be, would be fascinating.

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If my grasp on reality hadn't ended imploding like it did, I would have considered my mental headspace equally 'classified information', to be shared at my whim and discretion.

I don't know if I would have especially termed it as 'at your whim.' I might have said within your consent and comfort zone. There would probably be parts that would be ok for you to share and some parts that wouldn't. I'd enjoy the hell out of stuff like your excitement and anticipation while you were on the way there, the thoughts and fear you must have experienced when you first arrived, what you felt during the activities, and even stuff like 'how do I get out of here?'

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Ya'll are not filling *me* in on what's going on in your head while all this is going on. Cali didn't offer me a write up of his experiences... I don't see why ya'll should just get a free pass into my head either.

Actually, I'd have signed up for that. I'd have to think it would work the other way around. Not just things like 'it was really 2:30 pm when I did this,' but what's going on in the other person's brain WHEN they did this. Power-drunk, exhilarated, responses, and thought processes. It seems weird to me that a captive wouldn't want to know the perspective of the captor.

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We are playing cat and mouse here after all. And I've never seen a mouse walk up to a cat to inform it where it was hiding when the cat couldn't find it.

Never watched Tom and Jerry, huh?





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