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DaddySatyr -> Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 10:58:46 PM)


... and I am quite sure, before the dust settles, he won't be the only one.

I've not watched any NFL games this year, but I have seen photos on Facebook and Twitter. It almost looks like every Sunday is Hallowe'en with a large number of fans dressed as empty seats.

Forbes Article

The important bit:

quote:

Schnatter blames part of the downturn on the National Football League, which has faced turbulence amid widespread national anthem protests in the past year. “The NFL has hurt us by not resolving the current debacle,” he said on a conference call on Wednesday. Papa John's is the league's official pizza sponsor.


It would be amazing to be in some of those board rooms, where companies discuss the real reasons they gain or lose money.



Michael




Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:12:10 PM)

FILE - This Thursday, Dec. 15, 2016, file photo shows a Pizza Hut restaurant in New Orleans. On Thursday, Nov. 2, 2017, Yum Brands said it saw a key sales measure rise at KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell for the third quarter, and said it saw no effect on sales due to declining NFL viewership, a day after Papa John’s blamed weaker pizza sales on the controversy over protests during the national anthem. (Gerald Herbert, File/Associated Press)
By Joseph Pisani | AP November 2 at 4:17 PM
NEW YORK — The CEO of Papa John’s slammed the NFL’s leadership and blamed protests by football players for pizza sales going cold. A day later, rival Pizza Hut said it saw no such impact. So what’s going on?

Papa John’s is closely associated with the NFL, due to its sponsorship of the league. But experts say it is also facing more competition as other fast-food chains start to deliver burgers and fried chicken, taking a bite out of pizza sales. And there may be other issues in play: More people are cooking at home, and Papa John’s may have been too dependent on TV ads at a time when more people are spending time online.

The NFL also has fewer viewers than it used to. The average game this season has attracted 14.8 million viewers, down from 15.6 million at the same point last year.



Papa John’s said customers now have a negative view of the chain’s association with the NFL. “The controversy is polarizing the customer, polarizing the country,” CEO John Schnatter said Wednesday after the company had released softer sales figures.

“NFL leadership has hurt Papa John’s shareholders,” he added. “This should have been nipped in the bud a year and a half ago.”

Pizza Hut said the opposite: “We’re not seeing any impact from any of that on our business,” said Greg Creed, who is CEO of Pizza Hut owner Yum Brands Inc.

Commissioner Roger Goodell and several owners said at the league’s fall meetings last month that they did not discuss altering the anthem policy language from “should stand” to “must stand.” A representative for the NFL didn’t respond to a request for comment this week.

Restaurant analyst John Gordon says he is skeptical of the NFL’s impact. There was a time when pizza chains were the only ones able to deliver food quickly, but that’s changing rapidly, says Gordon, the founder and CEO of Pacific Management Consulting Group.

McDonald’s Corp., for example, expects to expand delivery of its burgers, nuggets and fries from 5,000 of its nearly 14,000 U.S. locations by the end of the year. And KFC, which like Pizza Hut is owned by Yum Brands, hopes to double delivery sales at the fried chicken chain to $2 billion by 2020.

Pizza Hut has also been working to up its delivery game and catch up with the more tech-savvy Domino’s Pizza Inc., which makes it easy for customers to order pizza pies through apps, social media posts or even text messages. Pizza Hut said Thursday that sales rose 1 percent at its established locations worldwide and were flat in the United States, an improvement from past quarters.

Domino’s, though, said sales rose 8.4 percent at established U.S. stores during the third quarter. That’s down from the 13 percent growth it reported in the same period the year before. “Nothing we reported in the quarter included commentary about the NFL because we saw no reason to call it out,” a Domino’s spokeswoman said Thursday.

As for Papa John’s, it reported this week that third-quarter sales rose 1 percent at established locations in North America, which it said was below what it had expected. In the same period a year ago, sales rose 5.5 percent at established locations.

“We believe the reason for the sales decline is more complicated than fewer people are watching NFL games,” analysts at Stifel said. The analysts said it appears that Papa John’s puts more money to advertise on NFL games and has “has fewer advertising dollars to allocate to other consumer segments.”

Papa John’s said this week it hired a new creative agency that will help it create more digital ads

“We’re an e-commerce brand — it’s time we stop thinking in TV scripts,” Chief Marketing Officer Brandon Rhoten said in a statement.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nfl-sidelined-pizza-sales-papa-johns-says-yes-others-no/2017/11/02/b368fd32-c00a-11e7-9294-705f80164f6e_story.html?utm_term=.f9430ab95bb6




DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:15:24 PM)


Thank you for "your" opinion.

[:D]





Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:22:57 PM)

My opinion, pappajohn is a whiny lil bitch
Theres a lot of upset men around for some reason, all wusses




DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:39:47 PM)


I wish he would release a statement about the percentage of "unordered" pizzas he's experiencing

[:D]

You so funny!





Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:45:53 PM)

you so sad.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:49:32 PM)


Nope. I'm as happy as a pig, in slop.

I'm enjoying myself on these boards for the first time in a long time.

[:D]




stef -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:49:38 PM)

Maybe their sales are down because his pizza is shit? Even Pizza Hut is better than the crap they sell.




Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:54:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Nope. I'm as happy as a pig, in slop.

I'm enjoying myself on these boards for the first time in a long time.

[:D]



LOL yeah, tell that to the marines,




heavyblinker -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/2/2017 11:56:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

Maybe their sales are down because his pizza is shit? Even Pizza Hut is better than the crap they sell.


Hahahaha.
Yes, this.

Papa John's is absolutely revolting.




playfultom62 -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 12:21:31 AM)

It is an amazing spectacle, rightist propagandists and statists now demanding and laying a regulatory burden on the NFL to pimp revolting pizzas as a form of corporate welfare. Its pure communism. We want our freedom to decide which pizzas we eat and why. Let the market decide. Not the rightist communists. Freedom!!!





DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 12:45:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LOL yeah, tell that to the marines,



I had a nightmare, last night where I saw my son (You know, the Marine?) and I told him about you and he said: "Yeah, Luny's an asshole"

Really weird how dreams can come to pass in the light of the truth.





DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 12:54:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: playfultom62

Let the market decide.



I think the market may very well be deciding.

Papa John's in inextricably linked to the (N)o (F)ans (L)eft league.

League viewership is down. people aren't sitting in front of their TVs, watching a game. They're not seeing the Papa John's commercials. They're not picking up the phone or going online.

Maybe, they're out, actually living life (as I have been on Sundays, lately). Maybe, they're watching the W.S.

I think the free market is doing just fine, doling out financial retribution to the companies that support the N.F.L. (Kind of like Rush's advertisers leaving him).



Michael




Termyn8or -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:02:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

Maybe their sales are down because his pizza is shit? Even Pizza Hut is better than the crap they sell.


All the pizza around here sucks. It is as if they all adopted Little Ceasar's recipe on a bad day.

Eat the box and throw the pizza away. What gets me is that the original Pizza Hut recipe is also gone.

Guess I'll just jave to start making it from scratch again.

What happened to the food section here anyway ?

T^T




Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:15:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LOL yeah, tell that to the marines,



I had a nightmare, last night where I saw my son (You know, the Marine?) and I told him about you and he said: "Yeah, Luny's an asshole"

Really weird how dreams can come to pass in the light of the truth.




You think that its all about you, its an old english phrase, a bit like, "pull the other one, its got bells on". But have at it.

I dont believe I have ever mentioned anything about your son, ever, except to express my condolences, no one should lose a child.
I dont attack familys and illnesses of any posters.
Or make fun of soldiers dying. EVER, so take it however you wish... I refuse to pander to your bullshit pity party.
Have fun sugar shorts





DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:35:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

You think that its all about you, its an old english phrase, a bit like, "pull the other one, its got bells on". But have at it.

I dont believe I have ever mentioned anything about your son, ever, except to express my condolences, no one should lose a child.
I dont attack familys and illnesses of any posters.
Or make fun of soldiers dying. EVER, so take it however you wish... I refuse to pander to your bullshit pity party.
Have fun sugar shorts



I need to clear something up, here:

I have NEVER accused you of saying anything about my son. EVER. Period. I would NEVER accuse you of something you didn't do. I have NEVER accused you of making fun of soldiers dying.

I was well aware of the "Tell it to the Marines" bit. I've used it, but since my son WAS a Marine, I figured including him was kind of witty.

As for the condolences? I never saw that (probably one of the times you were hidden). I'm NOT saying it didn't happen; just that I never saw it.

However, you have attacked my illnesses. How many times have I mentioned "PTSD", "Lack of sleep" and "Short-term memory loss"? Once or twice?

You have on more than one occasion, referenced how bad my memory is or the lack of it.

So, I'll buy about 80% of what you're sellin', this time.





Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:50:00 AM)

That has nothing to do with your illness...Im not even aware of what you have....so go fishing.
I also dont take the piss out of PTSD. I have had it for many years. But I dont think I have ever mentioned it, the cause of it? Yes, that I have, many many times.
SO blow me
now Im done. pity party over.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:55:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

SO blow me



Not even with a dental dam, an entire roll of Saran Wrap, and a borrowed set of lips.

Denied.





Lucylastic -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 1:59:15 AM)

bait denied.




blnymph -> RE: Papa John's Loses Dough (11/3/2017 2:30:24 AM)

maybe a dull game properly called carryovoid finally bores even americans




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