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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 11:38:03 AM   
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
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LMMFAO!!!

You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!




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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 11:42:22 AM   
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
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LMMFAO!!!

You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!




Still think Clinton would have been worse, now you've raised that one?


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 11:44:57 AM   
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Ok, suppose Trump sends his emissary to the UN to get sanctions on Russia or Iran and they tell him/her...to fuck off ?

Russia and Iran would be delivered a free hand to pursue their military and foreign policy goals.


America Wins Big At The UN:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/north-korea-security-council-nuclear-missile-sanctions.html?referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/

What else have you got stashed in those cartoonish delusions of yours

Leave it to you after I reference Russia and Iran, to...bring up N. Korea. Cartoonish delusions must be heavy on your mind.

You will be in touch right, when Iran too...gets the fucking bomb ? (and from Russia for all we know)

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:11:34 PM   
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
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LMMFAO!!!

You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!




The clue is in the word "if".

It seems we do agree on some things, despite our different political views.


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:26:12 PM   
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
...

LMMFAO!!!
You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!

Still think Clinton would have been worse, now you've raised that one?


Yes.


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:28:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
...

LMMFAO!!!
You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!

The clue is in the word "if".
It seems we do agree on some things, despite our different political views.



Any "If" aside, you still used the phrase.... lol

I agree with just about everyone on this board in regards to something. That is, there probably isn't a person on this board who I completely, 100% disagree with.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:31:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
...

LMMFAO!!!
You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!

Still think Clinton would have been worse, now you've raised that one?


Yes.


Good God, how?

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:45:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
...

LMMFAO!!!
You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!

Still think Clinton would have been worse, now you've raised that one?


Yes.


Good God, how?


Well, gee, as far as trustworthyness goes, she aint.

As far as personal self respect goes, she dont have any, I mean her husband cheated on her at least 5 times, once in the white house and she just smiled and sucked it up.

And she has no more common sense than the guy in the white house now, I mean there is nothing really wrong with having a private email server, she screwed up by not having the damn thing secured by the people at the state department, nor did she have it upload copies of emails to the state department.

That's kind of standard operating procedure for all remote government servers.

And lets see about during Bill's administration, dems seem to have forgotten that the Clinton's did not put their investments into a blind trust for almost a year, and there was some questionable short sells of stock in various medical investments that happened after Bill made his health care proposal which caused some heavy stock fluctuations.

So, in that respect, the dems need to shut the fuck up about Trump and his business holdings.

And I still have some questions about that whitewater deal that have yet to be answered....

And according to bosco I am a leftest.

The simple truth is that I want honesty and ethics in our government, which is non existent.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 12:55:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome
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If this is a well thought out foreign policy initiative, it's a major PR fail from an administration who doesn't communicate well enough to claim that it's motives are misunderstood.
...

LMMFAO!!!
You... lmao... used "well thought out".... to refer to something.... lmfao.... Trump has done?!?!? LMMFAO!!!

Still think Clinton would have been worse, now you've raised that one?

Yes.

Good God, how?


I think she's more batshit than Trump. I also think her health wouldn't be holding up. She wasn't doing well on the campaign trail where the stress isn't as high as being in the Oval Office. She's just as tied to Wall Street. Her being so entitled would end up leading to a petty tyrant with the potential to actually have an impact, rather than Trump being a petty tyrant and having his little temper tantrums.


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 1:15:23 PM   
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"Nikki Haley's Finest Hour"

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Aside from the nomination of Neil Gorsuch to replace Justice Scalia on the US Supreme Court, I'm not sure I've ever been any prouder of the Trump administration than I was during Nikki Haley's scathing and righteous speech before the UN General Assembly on Thursday. Katie wrote up Haley's remarks and the subsequent vote, in which the large majority of the UN's "community of nations" purported to declare the United States' decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel (which it is) 'null and void.' Your empty, symbolic votes to single out America for our unwavering support for a country you loathe mean nothing, Haley warned delegates. We've made our decision as a sovereign nation, and there's nothing you can do about it -- but we will remember your actions the next time you come, hat in hand, begging us for more money. Here's the video, in case you missed Amb. Haley's tour de force:

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To its shame, the United Nations has long been a hostile place for the state of Israel. Both the current and the previous Secretary-Generals have objected to the UN’s disproportionate focus on Israel. It’s a wrong that undermines the credibility of this institution, and that in turn is harmful for the entire world...When we make generous contributions to the UN, we also have a legitimate expectation that our good will is recognized and respected. When a nation is singled out for attack in this organization, that nation is disrespected. What’s more, that nation is asked to pay for the “privilege” of being disrespected. In the case of the United States, we are asked to pay more than anyone else for that dubious privilege. Unlike in some UN member countries, the United States government is answerable to its people. As such, we have an obligation to acknowledge when our political and financial capital is being poorly spent. We have an obligation to demand more for our investment. And if our investment fails, we have an obligation to spend our resources in more productive ways.

Those are the thoughts that come to mind when we consider the resolution before us today...The United States will remember this day in which it was singled out for attack in the General Assembly for the very act of exercising our right as a sovereign nation. We will remember it when we are called upon to once again make the world’s largest contribution to the United Nations. And we will remember it when so many countries come calling on us, as they so often do, to pay even more and to use our influence for their benefit. America will put our embassy in Jerusalem. That is what the American people want us to do. And it is the right thing to do. No vote in the United Nations will make any difference on that. But this vote will make a difference on how Americans look at the UN and on how we look at countries who disrespect us in the UN. And this vote will be remembered.


Contrast that moral clarity with the shameful and craven actions of the previous administration, and the gratuitous and disloyal votes of normal US allies. Good for her. Israel was one of just eight nations who joined the United States on this vote, with a few dozen more abstaining. Haley is hosting a 'friendship reception' for the nations that chose not to vote against the US on this issue Israel's Prime Minister tweeted a short video thanking America and Amb. Haley for their leadership:

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Thank you, Ambassador Haley. On Hanukkah, you spoke like a Maccabi. You lit a candle of truth. You dispel the darkness. One defeated the many. Truth defeated lies. Thank you, President Trump. Thank you, Nikki Haley.
12:48 PM - Dec 18, 2017


Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. That's a fact. It will remain a fact. It has been US policy to recognize that fact since 1995, reaffirmed overwhelmingly by Congress this past summer. After campaigning to relocate America's embassy accordingly, other presidents eventually chose to seek waivers to the law; President Trump chose to follow through on his pledge and not evade compliance any longer. A sovereign nation made a decision to uphold its own policy -- established by the elected representatives of a free people -- and to acknowledge empirical reality. For that transgression, the pitiful and feckless United Nations voted to condemn that sovereign nation. Americans should not forget Amb. Haley's leadership on this issue, nor should we forget the countries who sided with "the jackals" over the Middle East's only liberal democracy and United States of America. Between her General Assembly address and her defiant Security Council veto, this week has been Nikki Haley's finest hour:

quote:

Nikki Haley ✔ @nikkihaley
The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy.
4:22 PM - Dec 18, 2017


Thank you, Madame Ambassador. As for the very first point she made at her speech, here is CNN's Jake Tapper calling out the mind-boggling hypocrisy and perverse priorities of the United Nations. His upbraiding of certain member nations is excellent, but keep w until the very end. The statistic he shares about UN resolutions is really extraordinary. Not all criticism of Israel policy is "anti-Semitic," obviously, but Tapper heavily hints that there's something dark behind the grossly disproportionate targeting of Israel by the UN. He's right…


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 1:25:17 PM   
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This absolutely was her finest hour. Many are whispering about "President" Haley.

For my tastes, she's a little too weak on some issues (where I feel she should be strong) and a little too strong on others.

It will be interesting to see if there's a metamorphosis (for my observations) as time goes on, but here's a prediction: She runs afoul of President Trump before his term(s) is(are) over and doesn't finish as Ambassador to the U.N.



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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 3:00:11 PM   
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"Nikki Haley's Finest Hour"

quote:

Aside from the nomination of Neil Gorsuch to replace Justice Scalia on the US Supreme Court, I'm not sure I've ever been any prouder of the Trump administration than I was during Nikki Haley's scathing and righteous speech before the UN General Assembly on Thursday. Katie wrote up Haley's remarks and the subsequent vote, in which the large majority of the UN's "community of nations" purported to declare the United States' decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel (which it is) 'null and void.' Your empty, symbolic votes to single out America for our unwavering support for a country you loathe mean nothing, Haley warned delegates. We've made our decision as a sovereign nation, and there's nothing you can do about it -- but we will remember your actions the next time you come, hat in hand, begging us for more money. Here's the video, in case you missed Amb. Haley's tour de force:

quote:

To its shame, the United Nations has long been a hostile place for the state of Israel. Both the current and the previous Secretary-Generals have objected to the UN’s disproportionate focus on Israel. It’s a wrong that undermines the credibility of this institution, and that in turn is harmful for the entire world...When we make generous contributions to the UN, we also have a legitimate expectation that our good will is recognized and respected. When a nation is singled out for attack in this organization, that nation is disrespected. What’s more, that nation is asked to pay for the “privilege” of being disrespected. In the case of the United States, we are asked to pay more than anyone else for that dubious privilege. Unlike in some UN member countries, the United States government is answerable to its people. As such, we have an obligation to acknowledge when our political and financial capital is being poorly spent. We have an obligation to demand more for our investment. And if our investment fails, we have an obligation to spend our resources in more productive ways.

Those are the thoughts that come to mind when we consider the resolution before us today...The United States will remember this day in which it was singled out for attack in the General Assembly for the very act of exercising our right as a sovereign nation. We will remember it when we are called upon to once again make the world’s largest contribution to the United Nations. And we will remember it when so many countries come calling on us, as they so often do, to pay even more and to use our influence for their benefit. America will put our embassy in Jerusalem. That is what the American people want us to do. And it is the right thing to do. No vote in the United Nations will make any difference on that. But this vote will make a difference on how Americans look at the UN and on how we look at countries who disrespect us in the UN. And this vote will be remembered.


Contrast that moral clarity with the shameful and craven actions of the previous administration, and the gratuitous and disloyal votes of normal US allies. Good for her. Israel was one of just eight nations who joined the United States on this vote, with a few dozen more abstaining. Haley is hosting a 'friendship reception' for the nations that chose not to vote against the US on this issue Israel's Prime Minister tweeted a short video thanking America and Amb. Haley for their leadership:

quote:

Thank you, Ambassador Haley. On Hanukkah, you spoke like a Maccabi. You lit a candle of truth. You dispel the darkness. One defeated the many. Truth defeated lies. Thank you, President Trump. Thank you, Nikki Haley.
12:48 PM - Dec 18, 2017


Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. That's a fact. It will remain a fact. It has been US policy to recognize that fact since 1995, reaffirmed overwhelmingly by Congress this past summer. After campaigning to relocate America's embassy accordingly, other presidents eventually chose to seek waivers to the law; President Trump chose to follow through on his pledge and not evade compliance any longer. A sovereign nation made a decision to uphold its own policy -- established by the elected representatives of a free people -- and to acknowledge empirical reality. For that transgression, the pitiful and feckless United Nations voted to condemn that sovereign nation. Americans should not forget Amb. Haley's leadership on this issue, nor should we forget the countries who sided with "the jackals" over the Middle East's only liberal democracy and United States of America. Between her General Assembly address and her defiant Security Council veto, this week has been Nikki Haley's finest hour:

quote:

Nikki Haley ✔ @nikkihaley
The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy.
4:22 PM - Dec 18, 2017


Thank you, Madame Ambassador. As for the very first point she made at her speech, here is CNN's Jake Tapper calling out the mind-boggling hypocrisy and perverse priorities of the United Nations. His upbraiding of certain member nations is excellent, but keep w until the very end. The statistic he shares about UN resolutions is really extraordinary. Not all criticism of Israel policy is "anti-Semitic," obviously, but Tapper heavily hints that there's something dark behind the grossly disproportionate targeting of Israel by the UN. He's right…


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Extremely well thought out.

Another huge win for President Trump.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 3:02:34 PM   
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The American Right just wants to support Islamist terrorism, that's all. Thus, it agrees with the Islamists terrorists' view that the best way to unite all Muslims against the West is to cast all Muslims the same way - as dangerous nutcases just waiting to kill Westerners. So, you hurry ahead, and make laws that give all Muslims - not just the killers amongst them, note - the same kind of heavy treatment, and in so doing, get as many Muslims as possible to start feeling sympathetic to the fruitcake Muslim extremists' cause.

There's no finer friend of murdering, psychopathic Islamist terrorists than the American Right. The weird thing is that the more intelligent of the American Right know this - but absolutely play along with their agenda, anyway. From what I've seen.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 3:41:11 PM   
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Isolationism coming to a state near you.
Enjoy it...
Karma is a cunt...


I'm actually in favor of a more isolationist stance. Imagine how different the ME would be right now if the US was less imperialist. Wouldn't you rather the US not have meddled as much as it has?



An interesting question DS. Certainly Bush`s war on terror hasn`t worked out well. It is a shame Trump is more worried about where your embassy is situated than the ethnic cleansing in Israel. If he feels his decision will speed up the dormant Palestinian/Israeli peace process he is more delusional than normal.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 3:49:47 PM   
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well, the UN showed pretty much what the world thinks of the bullying(blackmail) attempted by your ilk.
you sad little man, again with the bullshit. attempting to put your "thoughts" in mine, just stop, its pathetic, boring and dishonest
yawwwwwwn
Nobody has stated other countries have announced stopping trade.
it will take more than bullying.




Who exactly is trying to "bully" and blackmail"

YOU claimed that we would be isolated, not me.

Back your mad howling up if you can. How exactly is anyone going to "isolate" us

BTW, on a related note, 128 countries suffer from the cartoonish delusion that their meaningless vote "nulls" our recognition that Jerusalem is Israel's capital

As if their hatred of Jews really sways us or our relationship with Israel


You post so much shit I have set the bar low for you, yet again you manage to slide right under it.

The notion that all the Nations that voted for the propsosal "hate the Jews" is not only purile drivel but incorrect. I am pleased the UK voted for it, since there will be no peace process without East Jerusalem being part of a recognised Palestinian State. Blowhards like Trump and " I`m taking names" Haley can piss and moan all they want but Lucy was right about the US currently becoming isolationist.

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 3:53:50 PM   
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but here's a prediction: She runs afoul of President Trump before his term(s) is(are) over and doesn't finish as Ambassador to the U.N.

Peace,

Michael



im only seeing her from afar, but I like her, so I hope that's not the case.

in terms of trump, he does seem to lack some temperance when it comes to those sorts of things though doesn't he?

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 4:15:41 PM   
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It would seem that there are some on here that believe
that the UN has veto power over our foreign policy.


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 4:18:08 PM   
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I am pleased the UK voted for it, since there will be no peace process without East Jerusalem being part of a recognised Palestinian State.


AS IF Muslims ever wanted peace in the first place!

Muslims will never settle for less than the death of all Jews.

I still remember when Jimmy Carter brought peace to the middle east

Bet he's proud of the worhless medallion they gave him in honor of the event

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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 4:24:18 PM   
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It would seem that there are some on here that believe
that the UN has veto power over our foreign policy.


It would seem that one person has no idea what was being voted on.
Nothing to do with veto power over your foreign policy


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RE: 128 repudiate Trump's 9 against 35 abstain - 12/22/2017 4:28:05 PM   
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It would seem that there are some on here that believe
that the UN has veto power over our foreign policy.


It would seem that one person has no idea what was being voted on.
Nothing to do with veto power over your foreign policy



Guffaws.......... there are more than one of them Lucy, even in this thread.

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