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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 8:40:34 AM   
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“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said


Aside from the racism: What a completely cretinous thing to say. A throwaway line - said in, what, a couple of seconds - and he's just pissed away untold amounts of goodwill worldwide. The man is an ongoing disaster for the USA.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 8:49:39 AM   
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with nearly 2000 lies under his belt
he is as honest, as you.



You couldn't possibly know that, because you don't know the difference between the truth and a lie

Calling a shithole a shithole is not racism. You believe in lies in knee jerk fashion

Oh but I do
Yes it is, but it wasnt just "shithole" he used, was it, suck it up sugar shorts. defend him all you can. Impotent rage from you is expected.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 8:51:01 AM   
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“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said


Aside from the racism: What a completely cretinous thing to say. A throwaway line - said in, what, a couple of seconds - and he's just pissed away untold amounts of goodwill worldwide. The man is an ongoing disaster for the USA.


Even Fox and Friends this morning were a little shaken.


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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 9:07:22 AM   
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Gotta love Vicente Fox:

https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/951586161931235328

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(Trump's) mouth is the foulest s**thole in the world.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Does that mean the flood of Mexicans coming here will slow down? They don't like our democracy?

Someone needs to ask Vicente Fox why his little shithole bleeds so many refugees. Why aren't Americans busting through the border to get into his little shithole

The truth hurts, doesn't it Vicente

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

the flood of mexico has already slowed down
it has slowed down for the past 2 years at least

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/28/trump-administration-has-deported-fewer-illegal-mexican-immigrants-than-obama-data-shows.html
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexican-immigration-to-u-s-reverses-1447954334
https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21732561-deportation-has-also-become-considerably-more-random-donald-trump-deporting-fewer-people

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 9:10:27 AM   
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Hilarious how the president makes leftists howl that politically incorrect speech is the end of the world

Speaking clearly and directly is what got this president elected!



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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 9:41:02 AM   
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If those places arent shit holes, then why can’t their “refugees” just go back home.

Why would they need to come here?

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 9:46:54 AM   
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/01/12/trump-just-denied-his-shithole-comment-in-the-process-he-confirmed-the-worst/?utm_term=.c00c0701ea50

Trump just denied his ‘shithole’ comment. In the process, he confirmed the worst.
By Greg Sargent By Greg Sargent

President Trump is now denying that he ever described developing nations as “shithole countries.” But he is acknowledging that he did use “tough” language in the context of the debate over whether to take in people from said shitholes, and in so doing, he is only confirming that the mask has now been torn off for good.

Multiple TV journalists have flatly declared that Trump has revealed himself as a racist. It’s good that it’s now safe to say this on prime-time television, but we already knew that. What this episode also does is shatter the endless euphemisms and dissembling that Trump and his allies have employed to obscure a related truth: that the nationalism at the core of Trumpism is heavily driven by a reactionary backlash to the current ethnic and racial mix of the U.S. population — it is white nationalism, despite all the what-me-racist protestation to the contrary.

Trump’s comments also reveal that this basic truth is shaping the White House’s policy stances in the current immigration debate, something that is also being obscured with all sorts of rhetorical trickery. Trump’s comments have upended the negotiations underway over a deal to protect the “dreamers.” But it can no longer be denied that Trump opposes the deal at least in part because it does not do enough to resist or roll back ongoing racial and demographic trends.

Consider the particulars of the current immigration talks and Trump’s response to them.
In the White House, a bipartisan group of senators yesterday presented an agreement that would grant protected status to the dreamers who were brought here illegally as children, pump more money into border security, tweak family-based immigration and end the “Diversity Visa Lottery Program,” which distributes visas to countries with historically low immigration rates, many in Africa and Central Asia, channeling those visas to some U.S. residents with temporary protected status (TPS) from countries like El Salvador, Nicaragua and Haiti, a program Trump is rolling back.

Trump reportedly reacted to a discussion of that last component of the deal by saying: “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” before suggesting the United States should instead allow in more people from countries like Norway. Trump now claims he only used “tough” language about this deal, but his reported comments illuminate his actual policy stance: Trump is, in fact, rejecting the deal because it lets in too many people from what he thinks are “shithole countries,” or lets too many of them remain.

Trump objects to the agreement because he claims it makes so-called chain migration (family-based immigration) and the lottery system “worse,” meaning we must take in “large numbers of people” from “high crime … countries which are doing badly.” That openly concedes that Trump wants fewer people from those countries here.

The meaning of this is plain. Trump has claimed he objects to the lottery program because it admits terrorists, but he still objects to the deal reached on it because it still allows people (those with TPS) from the wrong countries, the “shithole” countries, to remain. He wants more funding for the wall, which is symbolic, yes, but that’s exactly the point: As Frank Sharry of America’s Voice puts it to me, the wall is a “middle finger to Latin America,” a statement that “we don’t want your kind.” It’s a middle finger to shithole countries, but more to the point, it’s a statement that we don’t want the people from them.

Trump also opposes the current deal because it would restrict family-based immigration (in which current immigrant citizens or permanent residents sponsor relatives for entry) only for the parents of the dreamers and some others, whereas Trump wants much greater reductions in family-based immigration. But as Dara Lind points out, while this debate is complicated, this functionally means large reductions in the numbers of people from countries who already have large immigrant populations here — which means resisting trends shaping our current ethnic and national mix.


In light of Trump’s apparent claim that he wants to prioritize people from countries such as Norway, the uglier white nationalist cast of all of this is inescapable. Trump’s fellow travelers have gone to great lengths to obscure this basic reality. In a now-infamous exchange, CNN’s Jim Acosta asked White House immigration hard-liner Stephen Miller whether Trump’s policies are designed “to engineer the racial and ethnic flow of people into this country.” Miller reacted with outrage and repeatedly cast the goal as reducing the mere numbers of immigrants — ostensibly to protect U.S. workers from competition — which he said was in keeping with previous periods of lower immigration.

It is very hard to disentangle the goal of reducing the overall numbers of immigrant arrivals from the goal of shifting our current ethnic and racial mix. But Trump has now left little to no doubt that the real animating impulse is the latter.

* TRUMP’S ‘SHITHOLE’ COMMENT DRAWS GLOBAL CONDEMNATION:

The reaction from United Nations human rights spokesman, Rupert Colville, was uncharacteristically blunt. He described the remarks as “racist.” … In El Salvador, the news of the comments quickly shot to the top of media websites. … In Haiti, people took to Twitter to share pictures of their country — verdant green hills, palm trees in the sunset, and sparkling turquoise water. … In Africa, similar reactions celebrating the beauty of the continent’s countries.
We are only beginning to glimpse the damage that Trump is doing to America’s standing in the world.

* TRUMP JUST WEAKENED HIS OWN LEVERAGE: NBC News’s Jonathan Allen notes that Trump’s “shithole” comments may have made it harder for him to get a deal on the dreamers, meaning he’ll now have to give up more:

If Trump wants a big immigration deal now, he’ll have to “give a lot more to both Democrats and Republicans who want a more compassionate approach,” said Ali Noorani, executive director of the advocacy group National Immigration Forum. … The backlash against the president’s comments [may] make it harder for Democrats to vote for a deal he likes, forcing him to make concessions that could anger his own base to win majorities in the House and Senate.
He really is the greatest dealmaker, believe me.

People scoff at Flake for voting with Trump and the GOP, but this sort of thing actually has some value — we need more Republicans defending the norms that Trump is shredding.

* TRUMP’S LANGUAGE IS UNFIT FOR CHILDREN: Jake Tapper actually had to say this on CNN, in his introduction to a segment on Trump’s “shithole” comments: “Parents with children, you might want to mute for the next 35 seconds.” This is what we’ve come to, folks.

* IMMIGRATION DEAL FACES TOUGHER ROAD IN HOUSE: Senators have reached a deal in principle to protect the dreamers that includes some limits on family-based immigration and border security. But as CNN’s Lauren Fox points out:

In the Republican-controlled House … the differences between Democrats and Republicans are even greater. House Speaker Paul Ryan has far more hardline immigration hawks in his conference. Democratic House Leader Nancy Pelosi, meanwhile, has far more members who are opposed to any kind of deal that set back the parents of DACA recipients either by limiting chain migration or other mechanisms.

It seems obvious that a deal can pass only with a lot of Democrats, so the trick for Democratic leaders will be to thread the needle by keeping just enough Dems on board to offset the conservatives who vote no.

* PAUL RYAN EXPLAINS WHITE HOUSE POSITION TO TRUMP: Trump yesterday got confused and tweeted opposition to a surveillance bill supported by the White House and most Republicans. The Post reports on what came next:

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) spent 30 minutes on the phone with the president explaining the differences between domestic and foreign surveillance, as many fellow Republicans reacted in disbelief and befuddlement. White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly also directly intervened with Trump, reiterating the program’s importance before traveling to the Capitol, where he parried questions from confused lawmakers.

Remember when conservative pundits and some reporters were telling us how Trump’s ability to sit through an immigration meeting showcased his blazing competence?

* REPUBLICANS TELL THEMSELVES EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE: The Washington Examiner reports on the state of mind among Republicans as they contemplate the coming midterm elections:

With so many Republicans in Congress having been elected since the GOP wave elections of 2010 and 2014, few have experience in withstanding the sort of strong headwinds generated by full control of government and an unpopular president of their own party. Many Republicans appear unconvinced that major Democratic gains are even possible this November. … they are comforting themselves with the memory of Trump’s unlikely victory, in defiance of long political odds and expert prognosticators.

This is another aspect of the Trump Effect: Even though the national polls were actually pretty close to right, his win must mean that there’s no reason to take any polling seriously. #FakePolls


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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 9:50:42 AM   
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If those places arent shit holes, then why can’t their “refugees” just go back home.

Why would they need to come here?


Its a shame you dont know the situation of those refugees home countries.
Its a shame you dont know the difference between refugees and illegals,
or the difference between need and want.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:18:20 AM   
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If those places arent shit holes, then why can’t their “refugees” just go back home.

Why would they need to come here?


Its a shame you dont know the situation of those refugees home countries.
Its a shame you dont know the difference between refugees and illegals,
or the difference between need and want.


If leftist trash could debate like grownups, they wouldn’t have to do desperately work at trying to make every thread personal.


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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:19:51 AM   
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Need and want ? We don't need them here, or want them here.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:29:25 AM   
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Need and want ? We don't need them here, or want them here.

It's not about what racist trash want.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!


Go wash your hood.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:33:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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If those places arent shit holes, then why can’t their “refugees” just go back home.

Why would they need to come here?


Its a shame you dont know the situation of those refugees home countries.
Its a shame you dont know the difference between refugees and illegals,
or the difference between need and want.


If leftist trash could debate like grownups, they wouldn’t have to do desperately work at trying to make every thread personal.



Says the coward who virtually starts every response with the phrase ‘leftist trash’... 🙄

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:35:28 AM   
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If leftist trash could debate like grownups, they wouldn’t have to do desperately work at trying to make every thread personal.


Still loudly proclaiming your Leftism I see.

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:38:01 AM   
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Need and want ? We don't need them here, or want them here.

It's not about what racist trash want.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!


Go wash your hood.

I think the trumptooners are more in key with Uncle Lou's take on that quintet:

Give me your hungry, your tired your poor I'll piss on 'em
that's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses, let's club 'em to death
and get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard


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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 10:40:36 AM   
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We don't need them here, or want them here.

I'm sure that there's some Africans saying "Why the fuck didn't you have that idea 2-300 years ago."

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 11:01:39 AM   
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We don't need them here, or want them here.

I'm sure that there's some Africans saying "Why the fuck didn't you have that idea 2-300 years ago."

Great, now you'll get Cletus all riled up about how our cracker forefathers weren't the ONLY people who practiced slavery...

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 11:10:31 AM   
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If those places arent shit holes, then why can’t their “refugees” just go back home.

Why would they need to come here?


Its a shame you dont know the situation of those refugees home countries.
Its a shame you dont know the difference between refugees and illegals,
or the difference between need and want.


If leftist trash could debate like grownups, they wouldn’t have to do desperately work at trying to make every thread personal.


if you could debate, i would probably die of shock

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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 11:11:46 AM   
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Need and want ? We don't need them here, or want them here.

you dont
but you(USA in general) cant manage without brown people.


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RE: This just in: Trump is still a racist asshole - 1/12/2018 11:18:53 AM   
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Donald Trump's mouth is his Kryptonite (...that and his very stable genius brain)

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Diss the tangerine bawbag or leave the thread - 1/12/2018 12:06:16 PM   
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Donald Trump's mouth is his Kryptonite (...that and his very stable genius brain)

The really pathetic thing is that he obviously thinks he's Lex Luthor when he isn't even the Bizarro version of Susan Boyle.

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