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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:17:03 AM   
LadyTantalize


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

, but you get bent over women being called these names and it angers you? I am sincerely trying to understand here.


I'm guessing that's the figurative use of the word "you", as I have no problems with the terms nor their usage in conjunction with women when used in fun and frivolity, not as a slur nor insult, used in the proper context as to a pre-negotiated scene, or between friends.    Long ago, I decided to take back words that I quite liked yet society had given negative connotations.   Years back I even belonged to a group aptly named "Bitch Dommes" and we were with pride!  *g*  Words such as cunt and even Mistresss, I decided to reclaim and use when appropriate as I find them glorious actually.  Also taking into consideration that many terms have many definitions, hence I reclaim and proclaim as I define!   But to each his/her own, I always say!

For my personal usage, I attach the following meanings....
whore (hôr, hr)

 A person considered sexually promiscuous 
bitch (bch)

 A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing.
 A lewd woman. A man considered to be weak or contemptible. 
slut (slt)


 A woman considered sexually promiscuous 
Although I do confess to detest the narrow-minded mentality that such definitions pertain only to a woman!  But hey at least they got in man being a bitch at http://www.thefreedictionary.com . *g*

I've no problems being called a Bitch when I am asserting my bitchiness.  I like the word cunt when referring to female anatomy and yes, I have one.  I've even called others than in anger, simply to vent and as it felt good -- why, who knows as I do not find it awful usually.  It's all how it's used and with whom.   I also have been known to be slutty in some instances, and even back in my youth was quite whorish, upon occassion, when I so felt the want to be!   I would be taken aback to be called a slut or a whore at this point in my life, as I am not sexually lewd, promiscious but put Jenna Jameson or Johnny Depp in front of me and mercy, I'll be all slut and whore -- and you call can me that!  *g*

"...why is it "You go girl!" when a woman calls a man such things.. but it is a crime for a man to call a woman such things?"

Possibly the latent struggle for female equal rights keeps the pressure cooker simmering in one aspect as to the "You Go Girls"!!    And possibly some men (i.e. some, a few, not all!) utilize the words as sheer slurs and insults thrown in unnegotiated manners to hurt and demoralize while many women use it less in that manner, and as pertaining to BDSM, many (i.e. some, not all) use the words with a bit more consideration and in the context of negotiated scenes with the male's acquiesence.  Just some thoughts.....I do not know and I wish it weren't so as I do not condone double standards of any nature.  

Interesting indeed.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:18:21 AM   
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Bitch=is derived from the female dog in heat, or if pregnant.  Usually this animal is very moody, could bite without warning, and be very resistful to their masters commands. 


No, a bitch is a female dog, a female wolf, or another female canid.  It has in its veterinary usage no more derogatory connotation than "hen" for a female chicken or "doe" for a female deer.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:18:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		slut = a skanky boy that doesn't know if its gay, straight or bi so it will sleep with anything (man, woman, trans, dog, cat, alien, watermelon, fish)

whore = a skanky boy that sleeps with people for money, housing, objects of value, drugs, expensive accessories (like say designer glasses, jewelry, clothing, shoes, etc)

bitch = a skanky boy who is a sissy.  Also used in the term "Bitch Slap" when you hit one of these disgusting cunts.  They need to be disciplined often because they can't keep their dicks in their pants, obviously.  They may break your arm if they are bigger then you, but they will cry for 10 years about the bitch slapping because, afterall, they are a sissy.

"bitch"  is not to be confused with bee yatch  which is a term of endearment towards a beloved Sister or girlfriend as in "hey what you beeyatch's doing tonite?  Let's go get drunk and party"

Hope this clears things up.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:21:28 AM   
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:23:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Submotive
Would have to say when used in general, they all describe "players" those who have no regard for anything other than getting what they want - and i'm referring to male and female here and Dominant and submissive.
 
However, pqwinny - if you have been asked to do this research by your Dom - then perhaps you might seek a more legitimate source since most on here are just that from what i've seen. i have become sad to see how little regard there is for anything of value in this lifestyle or anywhere else. So on with the bitches, whores and sluts who have grabbed hold of this world and will lead it to its destruction.



Wow, that comment was so widespread and judgemental.
 
Are you finding it easy to make friends?

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:24:47 AM   
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BuxomGoddess said: "bitch is not to be confused with bee yatch  which is a term of endearment towards a beloved Sister or girlfriend as in "hey what you beeyatch's doing tonite?  Let's go get drunk and party"


Ahh, thank you Ma'am.  Except I've NEVER heard anyone but Dave Chappelle or Carlos Mencia or small white animated boys on South Park say "beeyatch".  What's up with that?

E.

(while we are at it, why are the only adolescent males I see who dress "street" white, privileged mall rats and residents of the creamy cottage cheese suburbs of Chicago?)

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:25:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love discussions about semantics...

Slut, bitch or whore are all fine when uttered by someone I am in a relationship with during heated moments.

Bitch is what I get called by someone who does not like my spirited or sarcastic attitude or someone who I have rejected.

Bitch is what I hear if a significant other gets angry (not all significant otherrs of course).

Slut is a term of endearment that my girlfriends and I sometimes say when discussing our past sex lives.

Whore is a word I associate with prostitution, but really never use. (unless it is prefaced by, Whose Whore am I?)

Semantics are just that and words can have multiple meanings dependent on the environment used.

Of course words can hurt as well as arouse.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:25:34 AM   
LadyTantalize


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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

but you get bent over women being called these names and it angers you?


I see but I never mentioned getting "bent over" women being called names.... hence I was a bit confused.

Anyhoo, I see your point.


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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 10:30:49 AM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyTantalize

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

but you get bent over women being called these names and it angers you?


I see but I never mentioned getting "bent over" women being called names.... hence I was a bit confused.

Anyhoo, I see your point.



In off topic discussion there is a whole thread called Dicks, Bastards and Something else (forgot the whole title), and since LotusSong knew of the thread because she started it and my comment was to her, and not to you., I am assuming that she understood my comments... but who knows, I could be wrong about that

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 8/11/2006 10:31:25 AM >

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:08:05 AM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I will answer the question in the OP

Bitch=female dog
Slut=promiscous female
Whore=Woman who sells sexual favors for money

on Edit: Im very boring with my definitions

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:37:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pqwinny

Since there has been a great deal of discussion in this area recently, i'd like to try to get some expanded input.  i was recently asked to research the differences between a slut, a whore and a bitch in the context of BDSM.  i haven't put any real effort into it but must admit the question of qualitative difference has been hauning me a bit.

Looking to hear the thoughts, opinions, ideas of others....let 'er rip!



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ORIGINAL: pqwinny

quote:

ORIGINAL: Submotive

However, pqwinny - if you have been asked to do this research by your Dom - then perhaps you might seek a more legitimate source since most on here are just that from what i've seen.


Thanks Sub...the original request to research the distinction came a while ago from a Dom i was chatting with.  His attempt to 'assign' a task far too early in the conversation was part of what caused me to move on.  So i never pursued it at the time, but as i mentioned it sort of stuck with me and made me wonder,  mostly a curiosity question and it's interesting to note the variety of reactions.


In the OP you stated this thread was started based on recent forum discussions, but a few hours later state it was started to fulfill lingering curiosity from an attempted task issued to you by a wannabe Dom you were chatting with a while ago....

Which is it... and quit changing your mind, that's what a lot of bitches, whores and sluts do....

Sometimes it's fun to stir up shit... just to watch the flys fight over the newly revealed... or ''fresher'' shit.  Similar to a cat playing with a dead mouse it has ''freshly killed'' ... playing with the poor little dead mangled mouse toy... until the ''kill thrill'' is gone...

Two threads from two different females... one on behalf of humilated women and the other on behalf of men pigs (by a female).

I find my male self asking why females want to keep stirring up ''labels shit'' which is not gender specific anyway?

Is this type of ''shit stirring'' behavior indicative of what many commonly refer to as attention sluts?

It seems a large consensus of responders feel that ''whore'' and ''prostitute'' are synonymous, while ''slut'' and ''willing can't get enough sex partner'' tend to be also... and that only leaves bitches... Don't call me a bitch you bitch.... I'm pissed because that bitch called me a bitch... what nerve!


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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:40:24 AM   
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So now I -  and countless other people who refer to these names, embrace them and feel able to identify with such names - 'player'.
 
I suggest you are very wrong.  You are taking a handful of names and looking at the negative aspects.  I would love to hear how you came to the realisation that these people are 'players'.
 
If an lawyer can be a submissive, why cannot a whore be a dominant?  When does a profession turn someone into a player?
 
If a Daddy can be a dominant, why cannot a slut be submissive?  When does a label make you only that single description?
 
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:42:08 AM   
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:48:06 AM   
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Actually, that posters entire observation was in itself - 'bitchworthy'...
Must mean they are a player...
 
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 11:57:57 AM   
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 12:00:38 PM   
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And for tins... tins without labels would be really annoying....
 
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 12:05:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems to be a vogue of late..that if you cannot get rid of a derrogtory term.. just  change the pronounciation.

If one can be fired for using a racial slur..then they should be sable to be fired for using the same type of terms for women.

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 12:11:41 PM   
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But why see these terms only for women?  And why only only see them as negative.
The word 'gay' used to be and still is used as a derogatory, yet it is embraced within the homosexual society.
Even the word 'nigger' is used by some of black community - to empower themselves.
 
As distasteful as you may find that, it happens.  Its not gender specific.
 
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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 12:26:21 PM   
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If one can be fired for using a racial slur..then they should be sable to be fired for using the same type of terms for women.

If someone made an issue of it, I really don't think the excuse of "It's a different pronounciation so it's ok" would fly. 

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RE: bitches, whores and sluts - 8/11/2006 12:32:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Seems to be a vogue of late..that if you cannot get rid of a derrogtory term.. just  change the pronounciation.

If one can be fired for using a racial slur..then they should be sable to be fired for using the same type of terms for women.


You can sue your employer and have someone's job for creating a hostile work environment, people have been fired for using these terms toward women. And women do sexually harass men too. I dated someone that was sexually harassed, and a place I used to work a superviser was fired for grabbing two different young men at work..

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