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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/13/2006 12:48:49 PM   
DanceDreaming


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My take on the experiences, the whys and the wherefors.

My aesthetics have room for a lot of looks. I like masculine looking men, I like feminine looking women. I also like femme men and butch women. In reference to the topic at hand, I do find myself often attracted to pretty, metro, sissy and femmy boys(particularly pretty goth boys). I've also occasionally been attracted to tg/ts folks, though most often of the f2m, not m2f varieties. Androgyny can look great in many forms. All that said, I have yet to find a crossdressing male attractive when enfemme.

My reasons for this are hard to articulate yet easy, for me, to pinpoint. It has to do, in part, with the concept of dressing for effect. I find that women have generally been trained, for better or for worse, all their lives to dress in different styles -specifically- for the effect it has on those around them. They dress up to fit in, to enhance the beauty of the world for those around them, and to be found attractive, it's often not for their own amusement. Sometimes, a woman will sort of lose this in a more narcissistic(narcissism is not always bad) pleasure of looking in the mirror and finding what they see to be beautiful, for themselves and themselves alone. I indulge in this myself, and find it quite liberating and very sexy. But often by this time they already have deeply ingrained a sense of dressing for effect. Many women reject all this, are irritated by the implications and do their damndest to not care what people think of their look. Most often these women are fairly butch.

For better or for worse, this is not often learned by men. Men are generally taught to dress in what is comfortable, what is practical, or what they feel looks good. They tend to take any push from society to dress against their own wishes as a deep insult. Dressing up is usually either a chore(putting on my stupid tie again), or an act of narcissism, and very rarely a specific and freely given gift to the world, to enhance the pleasure of those around them.

Wow, that was longer than intended, and will probably get flamed while the more important stuff(below) is ignored... So I'll Disclaimer: the above is not expressed well, and is based on societal trends I have witnessed, and has little or nothing to do with natural characteristics of men or women. Hope that helps...

The above dovetails with my main point. I find many, many people quite attractive naked. When clothed, I tend to find attractive people who are wearing clothing that flatters their form. I, personally, would either look ridiculous or dumpy in clothing that would scream sexy on a highly curvaceous woman. My curves tend more toward the streamlined. Even in my size, they'd just look bad. Similarly, styles that would look great on me would make some very hot women I know look....well....lumpy. If you have a large, highly angular, and muscular form, cute lil frilly things are just going to make you look silly, IMHO. If you have a beer belly, that slinky dress will make you look pregnant. If you have a soft and doughy sorta look, my sleek pvc catsuit would make you look kinda like a sausage. If you feet are squeezing out of those heels, they don't look hot they look painful. If you've got square shoulders and a broad chest, a little strappy camisole will look lost at sea...

Being femme, and looking good, requires a lot of work. Staying clean, looking trimmed and polished. Learning how to talk what you've got, whatever it is, and make it work. Creating an image that is specifically designed to be appealing -to others-. Knowing your intended audience, and creating a style that will appeal to them.

I could probably work with a guy who, like ballet bob far above, was mostly interested in the -feel- of women's clothes. We could probably find, together, plenty of things that look great on him(in my opinion), that have a soft or slinky, and sexy, feel. But a guy who has a really specific idea of how he wants to dress regardless of whether I find it hot, and refuses to adapt it to my(his Dominant's) tastes...? Well, if I do find it hot, if he is wearing something that really flatters his form, if his tastes in femmeboi wear are something I find sexy, than probably. But I have yet to see a closet CD who's look I find attractive.

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/14/2006 9:28:54 AM   
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I think I could have a lot of fun with a CD forcing 'her'to be a bearded, macho guy who polishes my shoes and irons My female clothes. hmm could also be good to train into my own personal beautician/ latest fashion consultant. Oh my mind is ticking over on this one now- PMS and menses are such a &%&^*^ I would make 'her' feel it   I can see the fun side of it... but my own man, the one I would be in a 24/7 with, he is going to be an alfa male cuz thats what turns me on.

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/14/2006 2:16:59 PM   
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It was often said in the trans/crossdressing communities I knew that you could tell the strict crossdressers from the true transexuals ( changing there gender surgically ) by the highness of there heels.

Lot of girls I knew would get read very easily---of course the fact that they did makeup like they were street walkers---had on tight lil' mini dresses and 6 " stilettos and walked like a  drunken truck driver never seemed to register with them.

Give this T.S. some jeans--a cute top and tennis shoes instead.

Another thing that never made sense to me--sort of relating to this thread is a guy saying..... Oh Mistress ; I want to be forced to cross dress.   If you want to cross-dress how or why should I have to force you  ???   Either be a dresser willingly or come to me as a guy and be a guy....

Just my humbled opinion--from one that use to be a guy

Mistress Robyn

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/17/2006 9:39:07 AM   
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I enjoy being around cross-dressers.  But I personally do not care for
them as a submissive. I want to be the only DIVA in the relationship.

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/17/2006 4:31:13 PM   
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sorry but i must say someting here. the clothes should not make the man the man should make the clothes. any submissive who puts their desires first is not a submissive. if the Dominant wants it it will happen. if not a submissive should be greatful for what they have and not worry about what they dont. as Mick said "you can't always get what you want but if you try sometime youll get what you need"   hope i havent offended or overstepped my bounds.                                   michael




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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/17/2006 7:35:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDoMe
I want to be the only DIVA in the relationship.


They don't have to be the DIVA.

Most of us just want acceptance and to be wanted for what we have to offer
a dominant in our own way.

Why is there this HUGE misconception that "all crossdressers want to do is pose
and look in the mirror."

Thats not true for all of us. Some things are much more important.



< Message edited by sissifytoserve -- 12/17/2006 7:37:04 PM >


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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/18/2006 6:18:35 AM   
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Is it a misconception that all cd's are diva-types?
yes

Is it a reality that diva-type cd's are out there?
that would be a yes as well


No one can deny the fact that many women are exposed & confronted by those who are much more over the top in this particular fetish &/or expression of gender. This poster like many other posters only has her own personal experience to fall back on & comment about. It is very likely that she has only encountered the diva-type cd's. If this is the case then she will have to meet an overwhelmingly large number of cd's who are not diva-types in order to change her opinion.

This will be extremely difficult since most of us meet others in a party atmosphere & when in this mode the "girls" are out & proud being the most fabulous girl  they can be... because this is where they get a chance to "be all that".

This in no way implies that they are not sincere in their desire to please a partner. It doesn't mean they wish to outshine their partner but you can see where the impression can be made that they demand the spot light.

Some of us are quite aware that there are many cd's out there that are very sincere about their service/surrender. Those who are not aware of this have not fully explored this segment of society or they have only encountered those who they have no desire to know on a deeper level.


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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/18/2006 10:26:24 AM   
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everyone has thier own tastes their own wants need desires. most Dommes are only human after all, know a few i wonder about, so have all the predudices and problems inherent with this. a Domme will only truely hate a CD if they look better in a dress not speaking from personal experience here however i have  experienced the pain of haveing bigger breasts than a Domme and she took it out on me. quite possibly the most fun ive ever had.

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/18/2006 7:22:26 PM   
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then it seems by your experience you have met women who identify as dominant & are rather insecure

By this example does it mean all dominant women will react poorly because their boy friend looks hotter in a dress than they do?

I get a huge kick out of dressing someone up especially if they look totally hot & passable & take them out to show them off. I have done this countless times... to the point now when I have a female guest show up with me at an event I will get pulled aside by my guy friends so they can ask if she is a he.... I just tell them for me to know & you to find out.

I also totally get a kick out of private play when a guy wouldn't stand a chance of passing... so long as the energy is mutually agreeable... its all good.

< Message edited by MstrssPassion -- 12/18/2006 7:24:01 PM >


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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/19/2006 12:04:26 AM   
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I love to cross dress. It is such a fun thing to do.
Nothing better than to go shopping for lingerie etc wearing a short miniskirt, high heels and lacy blouse.
Sometimes I put ribbons in my hair and go for the real girly look as well.
The sales girls can tell. That's part of the fun.

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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/19/2006 6:37:07 PM   
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Is there such a thing as someone who doesn't like full blown crossdressing, but enjoys the humilation factor of just panties and bras?

Just asking! Still a bit new at all this!


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RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? - 12/19/2006 6:42:57 PM   
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The world cannot contain the very many variations in it, it is a wonder it works at all.


So, like anyone else in the world, sub; slave; Dom; Domme; Misstress and Master........whatever sex you want to put to those people.................


You got a shot--- if you eat with your mouth closed and can consider other refinements in the field of manners.


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