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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 9:11:43 AM   
PrimitiveLogic


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Status: offline 		Lack of fulfillment (or perceived lack of fulfillment) often grows like a cancer...it will consume you if you don't treat it.  Obviously some package combinations enhance the entirety of the relationship (male and/or female), and some combos make it more challenging...not only to spark the energy exchange, but to perform actual duties. This includes weight, physical function, health, mind set, capacity, and yes...genitals.
So like so many are suggesting; get your head straight and figure out what your total needs are vs what some needs are. If you continue to choose him, and remained cock unfulfilled...you can always tell him you're a dirty slut and need to serve his friends to be mmm taught a lesson.
It may be his equiptment problem...but it is your ethical dilemma.

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 9:37:46 AM   
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never told me this or that about yourself sooner, because if you had, I would
have walked away from you before I got a chance to know the real you.  Now,
that I have had the chance to get to know you, things that I considered important 
aren't important to me now at all.  I would never have learned what a truly, kind,
wonderful, loving person you really are, and how you could fill my heart and
soul with warmth and security, and bring me happiness no other human has
known since the beginning of time."  
 
 

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 9:49:35 AM   
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I'd have probably said...."Hey....get that pencil away from my pussy....I don't want lead poisoning!"

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 10:06:37 AM   
LotusSong


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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 10:27:42 AM   
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Somebody here said that size does not matter, it is how you use it.  That is a giant crock of shit.  Let us consider that there are only three ways that a woman gets stimulated to orgasm during intercourse.  Her clitoris, g-spot and vaginal opening (provided she has had plenty of foreplay).  The first has absolutely nothing to do with a penis.  The second can not be reached with a small penis, and the third, if you can not feel it, will do nothing no matter how you use it and this is the complaint of the OP.

I guess you can consider that statement satisfactorily disproven.


Any glib statement is obviously only as true as you let it be....But I suppose it depends whether one expects to experience orgasm through intercourse.  I never have, so I have no expectation of that to be satisfied by sex.

I'm no expert on human sexual response but I have always understood that many women only orgasm during intercourse with the assistance of manual stimulation anyway.

Sorry, I didn't really mean to launch into a debate about mechanics, I was just musing about the variety of the human form. 

Laura

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 10:44:34 AM   
Lordandmaster


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(Or at least they shouldn't be.)

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

And of course NO guy ever glances off to the side at the urinals out of curiosity :)

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 10:46:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

And of course NO guy ever glances off to the side at the urinals out of curiosity :)


LOL and we all know the NEVER EVER got changed in the locker room in gym class!!

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:05:07 AM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

And of course NO guy ever glances off to the side at the urinals out of curiosity :)


LOL and we all know the NEVER EVER got changed in the locker room in gym class!!

Magik's slave


....and of course you never see them in the porno movies :) 
 
All kidding aside.. I'm sure there is a reason and they will work things out.  This is not an easy situation to tackle.  IMO.
 

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:23:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

They're not erect in the men's room, Lotus.

(Or at least they shouldn't be.)



Damn, there go all my fantasies :(

This is a difficult and highly sensitive issue.  I feel for you.  I have found the male perspective on this interesting.  I don't think anyone can accurately pinpoint why things happened in the manner they did.  The detailed play you cited would not be anything I would blink at if there wasn't the size issue.  So, it is possible he did it how he did it for no other reason than that was how he wanted to play.  It could also be there was some insecurity or deception.  Maybe it's somewhere in the middle. 

Regardless, this was enough of an issue for you to post it so it needs to be addressed and you need to decide how you will handle communication of it.  Only you can decide if this is a deal breaker for you.  If it is, better to deal with it now than to string him along.  If you would rather try to discuss and work on some compromise, then you need to discuss it.

Personal opinion...all things considered, if you have a great relationship and he fulfills your needs, the intercourse portion can be worked around so you are both satisfied.  I tend to lean toward the there may have been some purpose for the way he did things camp but I wouldn't be too hard on him over it.  Dominants are not perfect and if he had some insecurities in that area I would hazard a guess any purpose would be because of that and there was no malicious intent.  But now you know...and now you can address it if you need to.  Good luck to you.



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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:24:57 AM   
Emperor1956


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I have read the OP over and over, and just to make sure I read it once more.  WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT HE WAS SETTING HER UP, CONCEALING HIS SIZE, OR ANY OTHER INFERENCE OF DISHONESTY ON THIS MAN'S PART?  I come back to that point again and again.  If you see it, tell Me.  Or if you have the balls (metaphorically), read her post again and tell Me you were wrong.

Here's what I see based on the post, and then I'll note what I see is being inferred by "the crowd" (and I don't mean everyone...you know if you are in the castigating (or is it castrating, here?) group): 

WHAT SHE SAID:  A couple, new to eachother, spends 5 mo. real time dating, touching, teasing.  He seems to be very centered on her, and her pleasure.  At no time in this 5 months does she see him naked.  Nor does she touch his genitalia.  This is unusual, but not unheard of.  Then, on a romantic, big night, he penetrates her, and she learns he is very small (and unfortunately that she can't feel him inside of her.)

Here is what is inferred:  This guy has a small cock and KNOWS he has one, and he's deceptive, lying and concealing it (Frankly, it seems like a lot of effort for him to do all this for five months...but I never saw the supposed dishonesty in the first place).  Then the big night happens, and she doesn't feel it. Now he's deceived her...made her love him with this horrific hidden evil between them.  Indeed, he is EVEN setting up a situation where she'll be whipped if she tells him he's too small (MisPandora, that one was so far out of the ballpark I have to believe you were playing hockey while the rest of us thought it was baseball.  Or maybe men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and you (in this case only so that I've seen) are on some distant moon of some unnamed galaxy far, far away.  In other words, Miss, you called that one way way wrong). 
 
I agree that he probably knows he is small, although in thinking about it, Lord and Master is pretty accurate how men of a certain age would or would not learn about erect cock size in general.  I don't know that I saw another erect man until my late 30s...except my brother, and then genetics would tend to have us both about the same.  But will I condemn him because I THINK he might have known?  No.  And neither should any of you. 

And so what if he DID know he was small?  In my earlier post I made it pretty clear that I thought demanding a "I have a tiny penis" note was unrealistic and hypocritical.  I stand by that.

But here is the "meat" of this post:  I would like one of you who accuses this guy of deception to tell Me WHERE you get that?  Because he took things slow?  Because he was romantic?  Because he didn't fuck this girl on the first date?  There is not one iota of evidence to suggest he was deceptive (and NO -- saying things in the heat of passion like "do you feel your Master" is not evidence.  I am VERY happy that no one here is going to be able to recount some of the things I've said during sex.  And I bet most of you would blush having that tape played back, too.)

So, what I'm left with is two general takes:  first, that the OP got a lot of good advice about communication (and yes, LA, I'm with you there) and some lousy advice about her (once, apparently beloved) Dominant being a sneak, deceptive, abusing her, etc. because he had a small cock. 

Second:  I've learned that a bunch of people who post on here are judgmental and snarky, will misinterpret anything they read to satisfy their own demons (which they rarely have the courage to acknowledge) and that you post online at your peril unless you have a judge, a stationwagon full of nuns and an interpreter to back you up  (but, y'know...I knew that).

E.



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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:32:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly yeah this situation isnt a plesent one for eather of them and I wish them  the best I feel there are many other issues besides the size but its just a feeling i get and my opinion things alwayas work out as they should though eve n if they arent as we want them.

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:37:26 AM   
MCandNuri


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Status: offline 		I didn't really think he was being 'sneaky', and maybe what I said got misinterpreted?
When I said he handled it badly, I mean that any time you ask the person on the recieving end a pretty loaded question like that, especially when there are some pretty clear communication issues, you may or may not get a response you might like.


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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 11:38:48 AM   
Silvermoon


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Status: offline 		Emperor1956,
First off THANK YOU!
You hit the nail on the head. Often the boards remind of me of that childhood game from school "telephone" one person starts off with a message, and turns to the person at their side and repeats it. By the end of the game the last person to hear the message says it outloud and it doesn't even RESEMBLE the original message!

I'm glad someone here (other than me) steps up and draws attention to it!

Secondly, in general. Ok, this issue is bothering said person, discuss it. Personally if I were to find a partner who fulfilled so many other aspects of my life. I doubt highly I'd be complaining. Of course that being said I am one of those 'size doesn't matter' girls. Yes, I've had a serious D/s relationship with a man who was 100% impotent. So?
There are ways around such issues. But it really comes down to communication.
Frankly I posted a thread "Does D/s require sex?" and I was SORELY disappointed at MANY of the responses. But it does establish what I suspect, many still view BDSM as a sexual fetish.

It's so difficult to find a partner in this lifestyle, even more difficult when we expect everything to be perfect. *sighs*
I can't give any more advice than what's already here, good or bad.


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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 12:03:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would think something as extreme as cute as a button penis size would have been revealed much sooner that it was.

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 12:28:59 PM   
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quote:


Not trying to sound harsh, I just don't see it as a problem.


The issue is him asking her, in supposed  passionate heat of the moment sex "Can you feel it?"

And she doesn't feel it.

Obviously, the nice answer is to just say Um no master not really- but we can all understand what a sensitive issue this is, specially if not previously discussed and it's an awkward thing to say.

Putting the person in the uncomfortable position of considering lying to not break the mood or hurt the other persons feelings.

I'd agree that if the issue was just "I saw/felt his penis and it did nothing for me" then it could be dealt with in various normal ways.

The fact that he's deliberately pushing things to force this out into the open is what makes it difficult.

Unless maybe he gets turned on by her NOT feeling him?

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 12:39:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Nope. It's already crossed my mind that she might have a pussy that's big enough to parallel park a city transit bus in.  She's already created enough suspicion in my mind because she created another CM name just to hide and address this issue, and can't even SAY the word penis (and all it's other colorful words) without seeming to fall apart.  That stuff was already really evident.....


Pandora :)
 
What if this OP is said DOM under another name to discuss this :)  Ya never know..

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 1:04:42 PM   
Emperor1956


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quote:

LuckyAlbatross:  The issue is him asking her, in supposed  passionate heat of the moment sex "Can you feel it?"


I will admit that even in the heat of passion, "can you feel it" might not be the best of lines for this unfortunate fellow.  But LA, you are a pretty hip, worldly young woman (I think you have described yourself as a voracious slut *GRIN*).  SURELY you've heard things in the heat of sex that you didn't take literally?  And probably uttered them. 

I remember once hearing:   "Ahhhh Papi!  Papi!  Oh, coge su puta de una hija"  (at least I think that's what she said...it was a LONG time ago, and...I was otherwise engaged at the time.)  If I'd have spoken better Spanish, it would have put me RIGHT off.  Fortunately at the time I was a clueless Anglophone.

Anyway...It seems a slender thread on which to hang this poor fellow.

Anyone got any favorite utterances "in the heat of battle" that they want to share?

E.

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 1:09:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
Anyway...It seems a slender thread on which to hang this poor fellow.

Anyone got any favorite utterances "in the heat of battle" that they want to share?

E.

Oh absolutely.  I've had many times in the bedroom where it was all I could do to keep from laughing out loud at someone who was just convinced they were the next Don Juan.  I've learned many ways of extricating myself out of that and letting things finish normally.

And, if it's a serious relationship, we TALK about it afterwards.  It's pretty much the corrollary to the faking orgasm issue- once you let that ball start rolling, it snowballs into something completely ridiculous.  Faking sexual pleasure really is never the way to go.  On a surprise first time encounter, I can understand defraying- but anything AFTER that is just asking for trouble.

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 1:16:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dated a guy once who was so impressed by his 8" cock.. his mouth would run constantly during the "deed".. "I've got another inch..you OK?  Am I hurting you?..(bless his heart, he was just being considerate- and no.. he wasn't)" and.. "Do you know that once I took my temp during sex and it went up to 104??!"  Being he was a Gemini..I forgave him :)
 
We really need to do a thread on this one..  I'll get it started :)

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RE: Need advice on size of Master's --beeeep-- - 9/24/2006 1:17:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gee...kind of an interesting thread; sorta.  It made me wonder if my clit is big or small.  Ya know, I don't know!  I know my breasts are large and I know my nipples are small...but I really don't know if I've a large or small or average-sized clit; same with the rest of my vulva...who knows?  I've been with a very few women in my lifetime...not enough, and not recently enough, to know how I 'compare' to them with regard to genitalia.
 
This post DID prompt me to do a search of pictures, however…of female bits.  Actually, I’m fairly familiar with male parts…they’re posted far more frequently on all sorts of websites, no?
 
Breast Gallery:  http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/br_image.htm
 
Vulva Galleries:  http://www.the-clitoris.com/y/vulva/m_vulva.htm
 
Clit Close-ups:  http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/v_image1.htm
 
At any rate, being more cliterally orgasmic, I’d say one ‘could’ say penetration is over-rated.  And someone pointed out the obvious; anal sex would be a dream with a smaller penis, no?  LOL   I’d have more trouble with the guy’s lack of interest to my enjoyment during sex, than what size he is.  This was their first time together; the first time is rarely the best, anyway.  Yup…they need to talk and soon; and then get down to the business of learning how to please one another; should they still care to.
 
Recently, I was told a by a Dom that he had ED and I was not so concerned…for all the reasons I mentioned above; Heck, he could have been a great cunilinquist!  What got me was his telling me DD sized breasts are too big and anything smaller than a 5# weight could get lost under them…and that he believes women’s pussies smell bad so he wasn't so wild about giving oral sex.  Go figure; that did it.
 
bearlee (size 38 DD)

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