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RE: Women Who Dislike Dominant Women - 10/12/2006 2:05:33 PM   
Vendaval


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ORIGINAL: Lashra

How do you feel when you hear another woman say that she dislikes dominant females, because she feels that we are *betraying* our gender by not living in the submissive role? And to take this further she also states that we are bringing down men with our fight for equality?

Well, since I find her comments annoying and irritating,
I would most likely ignore her. 

When I hear a woman state this I do tend to loose respect for her as a woman(as I do men who say it as well). Now that maybe wrong of me, but I do. I look at her as if she were a 3rd gender or something. Because I honestly cannot understand how she thinks this way or why she believes what she does. With that said I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinions and they will not always agree with my own.

I smile inwardly and imagine what would happen to her if she
was the star in her own episode of "Lost" or "Survivor".

I was raised to believe in equality between the sexes and in all people regardless of your sex, race, religion etc. That is the type of household I was raised in and my Mother chose to stay home, it was a choice not something that was forced upon her. So to me if a woman wants to live in the usual gender role its not a big issue or if she wants to get out and work its not big deal. But for some women they seem to really have a problem with other women who choose not to stay at home living under a man's rule. I don't get it at all.

Right, choosing to stay at home is a right; just as choosing to
pursue higher education, a career, or your own business is
within a person's rights.  Economic reality often dictates harsh
choices and long struggles for anyone who is poor or working
class.

For years we have heard some (not all) men say these sorts of things regarding women and after awhile I know I just tend to mentally throw  them on ignore. But for me when I hear this coming from another woman I find it quite disturbing. What I find even more disturbing is when a woman bashes equality and then takes up the male side of it.

The ole country bit of wisdom that states, "You can lead a horse
to water...," comes to mind.  No use arguing with someone who
is set in their ways of thinking.


It almost seems to me as if this woman were trying as hard as she could for male acceptance and she is willing to turn her back on her sisters to gain that. To me male approval falls very low on my list of importance in life. I consider Me and my unmentionables happiness to be at the top of the list and that includes being my own person with the freedom to do what it is I wish to do in life. Is that so wrong?

I'm curious to see what others think about this.

~Lashra

Yes, the pursuit of happiness and the liberty to live freely is of
much higher value than judgmental comments from strangers.
 
Regards,
 
Vendaval




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RE: Women Who Dislike Dominant Women - 10/12/2006 8:26:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

My only issue with all this, is that women too often try to compete according to male values and methods, which are often against their natures - I wish more women would compete in the workplace using female values and methods. I dont mean sleeping one's way to the board by that either, before any smartass comments!

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Women are forced to ape men's behavior in the business world because things like 'tag questions' and other stereotypical forms of female communication and negotiation are undervalued and seen as negative in the business world.

As to the topic of discussion, I think women who domme should do that, and more power to 'em. Anyone who thinks that they're somehow unnatural ... is deeply disturbing to me.


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RE: Women Who Dislike Dominant Women - 10/12/2006 9:43:57 PM   
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Hi everyone .. thought the following link might be of interest ... it is an article on a study about the sizing of the ring and index fingers indicating certain gender traits ..
 
It's all in the size of the ring finger 
 

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RE: Women Who Dislike Dominant Women - 10/12/2006 9:54:33 PM   
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How do you feel when you hear another woman say that she dislikes dominant females, because she feels that we are *betraying* our gender by not living in the submissive role? And to take this further she also states that we are bringing down men with our fight for equality?

 
To the first question I think ..."ya unit" ...
 
To the second question I'd say ... that her comments are self serving and insulting to the male as a gender.

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RE: Women Who Dislike Dominant Women - 10/13/2006 7:08:56 AM   
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Just so, Najak. You have made an excellnt point, and may I say that your wording is superb.

In older cultures, transgendered, bi sexual, and homosexual people were simply accepted as a part of life. In some cultures, like the Lakota for example, they were thought to hold special signifigance and spiritual abilities. It was only during the rise and spread of the abrahamic religions that these differently-gendered people began to be seen as outcasts and deviants, leading to what we have today, where the main-stream religious ignoramouses are trying to make people who don't go along their definitions of gender and sexuality into a second class of people who are disenfranchised of the basic rights accorded to all the other citizens of this and other countries.

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