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Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 5:33:26 AM

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Greetings All,

I had never looked in this section of the boards, for one thing I am not a man, nor am I a slave. So this section really didn't hold any interest to me. But a friend of mine, a Gorean man, asked me to peruse some of the posts. So I did, and as he had told me, many posts were done by women, supposedly "Dommes". My question is this, why? Why would a self proclaimed Domme answer in a section called, "Ask a Master" ? Isn't this a section for MEN and slaves/subs?

I wish you all well.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 5:36:19 AM

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Anyone can post in any section that they want.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:15:10 AM

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quote:

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Greetings All,

I had never looked in this section of the boards, for one thing I am not a man, nor am I a slave. So this section really didn't hold any interest to me. But a friend of mine, a Gorean man, asked me to peruse some of the posts. So I did, and as he had told me, many posts were done by women, supposedly "Dommes". My question is this, why? Why would a self proclaimed Domme answer in a section called, "Ask a Master" ? Isn't this a section for MEN and slaves/subs?

I wish you all well.

Another

All sections here are open to those who would like to hear AND respond to different PoV's; regardless of their gender or orientation.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:19:47 AM

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Brightest Blessings

Many a female takes on the title Master when they own property. Besides these are open forums anybody can post and do.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:52:11 AM

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Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?

I wish you all well,

Another

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:52:35 AM

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We are fee in this forum to post wherever we want. Many people will tell you that Master is not gender-specific.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:55:40 AM

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Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?

I wish you all well,

Another

1) You have a question for male doms

2) You have a male dom that has communicated an opinion about BDSM to you that you would like to convey here

3) You have something to offer the OP from a female submissive view that you think would contribute positively to the discussion

4) You maybe a mistress, but some matters transcend male domliness

5)You just feel like it

Now the people reading your post can skip it if they do not want to read a female...Male and female doms post in the submissive forum too

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 6:59:14 AM

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A Dominant woman can call herself what she wants and no one else should judge her. Just as a male Dominant can title himself as he see's fit. This board is open to anyone to answer. If it was strictly for male Masters then not even subs/slaves could post to it.If your friend doesnt like you viewing such things maybe you should stick to the gorean boards.

~Lashra

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:00:10 AM

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quote:

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Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?

I wish you all well,

Another

/shakes head in disbelief

Never mind. Not even going to attempt this one.

Good luck hun, you are going to need it.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:03:36 AM

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Master is not gender specific, both men & women can be & are Masters.

(I haven't heard it in a long time... but I 've even heard of Master slaves within the Old Guard modality)

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:16:57 AM

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quote:

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Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?

I wish you all well,

Another

Because many, like me, don't even go into "Ask a Mistress". I like that I can get both opinions in this section. Both are equally valid. Under your premise...make sure you never post in "Ask a Sub" if you're going to be so technical.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:17:32 AM

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My question for you another, is it because of a Gorean mindset that you have trouble with the concept of women posting in a "man's" forum?

Just curious

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:29:48 AM

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But a friend of mine, a Gorean man, asked me to peruse some of the posts. So I did, and as he had told me, many posts were done by women, supposedly "Dommes".

I suspect both you and your friend have exaggerated senses of protocol so it is difficult for you to imagine that anyone who doesn't fit your rigid definitions of "Master" would have any interest in reading this section let alone responding. Fact is, dominance isn't gender specific, so the comments by the esteemed ladies here are as valuable as anyone elses. They have good insights so why shouldn't they post here?.

I think the better question is why some people would have such limited intellectual flexibility and a need for things to be tightly compartmentalized to the point of not even comprehending why a female dominant would post in the boys' section. IMO, these master, mistress, and submissive categories are just a nuisance because one can learn from and contribute to a conversation no matter their orientation. However, although I was initially against them making a gorean forum for those very reasons, I now think it makes sense because they really are off in their own little reality, and now I view it kinda like a leper colony. But I'm not so sure that is a good thing either.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:30:53 AM

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1) You have a question for male doms

2) You have a male dom that has communicated an opinion about BDSM to you that you would like to convey here

3) You have something to offer the OP from a female submissive view that you think would contribute positively to the discussion

4) You maybe a mistress, but some matters transcend male domliness

5)You just feel like it

Now the people reading your post can skip it if they do not want to read a female...Male and female doms post in the submissive forum too

To the OP :That says it right there. It's a free forum and all members are free to post wherever they wish. Not everyone has to like it or agree about it, but that's the way it is.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:33:52 AM

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Tal,

"If your friend doesnt like you viewing such things maybe you should stick to the gorean boards."

Goodness, so many defensive responses from all you women. I am not sure exactly why this was said to me, I don't recall saying "my friend" doesn't like me viewing such things. And even one post with my name lower cased! I have to wonder if the responses are because you feel the need to justify answering questions that was and is obviously directed towards a man to answer? Or perhaps so insecure in your own feminity you have to defend your positions. And yes I am a Gorean Free Woman, extremely proud of it, and secure in being a woman, and secure in being free.

Another

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:37:42 AM

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People get tired of having someone come onto the boards and having their first post be critical of how things are here. It gets old.

edited to add...If you don't like it, then leave. I'm in a bad mood today folks. Sorry.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:41:14 AM

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It was a suggestion since you seem to not understand that we free Dominant females can post where we wish. That is the only reason I said that. But I sense the reason that this message of yours was posted was to stir up a hornets nest. I've seen it happen on every forum where BDSMer's and goreans were together, hence why most goreans have their own private websites.

Have a nice day,
~Lashra

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:48:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Another

Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?

I wish you all well,

Another

The main question may be directed at the Masters, but sometimes having the discussion from other viewpoints gives a more well rounded answer. It is the "discussion" that makes these forums interesting and informative. This is why anyone can respond to any post on any board. I hope this helps :)

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 7:54:17 AM

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Leather culture includes many gay and lesbian Masters, rather than being hung up on the plumbing a person has we have chosen to place our focus on the heart and soul a person has. I know many lesbians who ID as Daddy, they also have a fair number who ID as Master. The concept of Master being a gender neutral term has been used for awhile now. Most of the women I know who ID as Master do so for a couple reasons,
1. There is no female term for the role that does not have an alternate meaning that may be seen as disparaging. (ie Misteress has the additional definition of being "the other woman")

2. Some lesbians identify as masculine in nature, heart, spirit, and they naturally use masculine pronouns, and nouns.

As an additional item as to why, why does it matte what gender the person is 98% of the questions here have any gender bias as to what the person asking wants to know. Punishment questions are gender neutral unless you are focused on specific plumbing as the target of the punishment, Dynamics questions, unless you are focused on a gender based superiourity, "natural order" thing, what makes a dynamic work or not has alomost nothing to do with gender. My lesbian boi serves me my female slave serves me I have had men in service to me for short times, their gender had only the slightest of bearing on how I designed the dynamic.

In Leather

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/5/2006 8:13:18 AM

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Tal,

"If your friend doesnt like you viewing such things maybe you should stick to the gorean boards."

Goodness, so many defensive responses from all you women. I am not sure exactly why this was said to me, I don't recall saying "my friend" doesn't like me viewing such things. And even one post with my name lower cased! I have to wonder if the responses are because you feel the need to justify answering questions that was and is obviously directed towards a man to answer? Or perhaps so insecure in your own feminity you have to defend your positions. And yes I am a Gorean Free Woman, extremely proud of it, and secure in being a woman, and secure in being free.

Another

Your post shows it was responding to me, yet those are not my words that you quoted.... I just wanted to set the record straight as I do not like words attributed to me that were not mine.

As far and the capitalization, or lack thereof, it was a simple typo. If you were to peruse my posts you will not find capitalization protocols in my text other than when I refer to my Daddy, as much as to show the distinction between him and other daddies as for anything else....

I am not into protocol like that, but hey, I think people should follow whatever capitilization rituals that rock their world!

Edited to add, you never answered my question

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