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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 12:32:15 AM

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"otherwise...I feel that I am just being used. "

Does anyone else find this funny? My slaves WANT to be used!

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 3:20:52 AM

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I personally dont think there can be "no strings"; the person seeking access to perform housework must have an additional agenda, even if that is just to be in the presence of a Domme and to feel he is serving her, therefore in a D/s relationship with her, for however short a time that might be. If that were not the case, then surely the sub male would be happy to do the housework while the Domme pops out somewhere?

I've only ever had two who wanted to do housework, so they said; the first was a total waste of time, who actually just wanted to dress in a PVC maid's uniform and prance about, and the other was so poor at the job that it became tiresome for me; regardless of what I did/said, all he really wanted to do was grovel apologetically and get punished. I've no problem with someone coming to do the housework, but for goodness' sake, do it! I'll gladly contribute to whatever other motivations you might have (within reason), but dont make me do it again myself afterwards!?

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 6:43:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: lunamor

"otherwise...I feel that I am just being used. "

Does anyone else find this funny? My slaves WANT to be used!

Lunamor (whose first slave was looking for a 'no strings' housework situation)

lol, yes lunamor. But when you consider the source, it makes sense: quotes like that come from a "submissive's" frame of mind, not consentual slaves who primarily serve unconditionally out of pure devotion. I realize many play the "slave" in roleplay but very few can handle this arduous task.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 12:59:17 PM

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I don't believe in no strings housework either.
My slave has to cook, clean and than put out to my satisfaction.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 1:04:49 PM

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Are you nasty women saying you tie strings all over your slaves when they do housework? Oh, those poor boys, me I get women with long hair, and the natural mopping leaves a brilliant sheen on the linoleum.

ALL my slaves are afforded the ablility to do the housework completely nude and natural, seems to me that you oughta let your boys try it that way, ever so often.....or perhaps a pretty little maids outfit, or a jockstrap to lift and separate when you are having martooties and supervising.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 1:08:54 PM

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Oh, those poor boys, me I get women with long hair, and the natural mopping leaves a brilliant sheen on the linoleum

ROTFLMAO

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ALL my slaves are afforded the ablility to do the housework completely nude and natural, seems to me that you oughta let your boys try it that way
Ron

Oh my family will take it real well when they walk in and find him that way... My home oftentimes has a revolving door, so unless he's cleaning my bedroom, he has to be dressed... Besides I like a well dressed man, especially if he is working hard for me. M

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 1:50:11 PM

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"otherwise...I feel that I am just being used. "

Does anyone else find this funny? My slaves WANT to be used!

Lunamor (whose first slave was looking for a 'no strings' housework situation)

I find it incredibly funny.
I have heard and read the term "Use me... " so often, that it really is a matter of how the boy wants to be used. Usually he wants to be used in a sexual manner, and you truly will not hear any complaints if that is the use.
I would not have anyone (stranger, per se) just come in to clean, because that would be foolish and unsafe. I would just hire a bonded service if I did not feel like doing My own cleaning. I do want some sort of relationship with a submissive who is doing this sort of work for Me, because it can be intimate in a sense. But if the agenda is "I will clean your bathroom and then you will perform CBT on me", and then I will leave until the next time I am in need of some Domination, honestly, all you are doing in those cases is bartering and there isn't a relationship of any depth in the first place. I am usually not interested. But some are. I also don't contact a boy for purposes of needing someone for some task. But I get contacted with a lot of offers, and I can hear the *sub*-text just fine! So if a boy is being contacted for "no strings", mayhaps he should look at his profile and what he is projecting as far as availability for something like this? If he is clear on his ultimate objective (i.e., relationship of some depth), there is no need to do anything more than politely decline any Lady who has her own agenda for free labor. Some seem to think they need to champion a cause, when there are really much simpler ways to handle these situations or mostly avoid them in the first place.
I think Sea expresses things beautifully. And there are a few boys, who, in the conext of an actual relationship, whether it be live out or live-in, do enjoy that feeling of pure service and the smile of appreciation that comes with it.
Like said, best to be upfront about things. Sub boys will get their pleasure, if a Lady chooses to allow them into Her home in the first place. We just have to agree on what that pleaure is to you and whether it is comfortable for Her.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 2:33:47 PM

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In my experience the ‘no strings’ housework means I come over in my fantasy outfit of my desire and pretend to clean your house while you stand over me in thigh high boots and a leather mini skirt and beat my ass. One such sub explained to me that it took him 3hrs to get ready in his French maid’s outfit and then couldn’t get down on his hands and knee’s to scrub anything because he might run his stockings. When I explained that I would have to leave with the small children when he was there in his outfit he got all upset that I wouldn’t be there to supervise! I told him if he wanted me there than he had to be in normal jeans and a shirt. Haven’t heard back from him since. Now my house pet…he comes over and fixes things and helps out. And he knows that when his schedule matches mine that I’ll beat him and play him. And we’ll both enjoy it. We have a D/s relationship and I like the consistency of having a pet that knows how I like things and gets along with my husband. Just my two cents. Mistress Taboo

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 3:23:02 PM

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I'm very much a service submissive who has been involved in what can be construed practically as "no strings housework" in the past, but there has ALWAYS been some type of D/s interaction between me and the woman to whom I am serving. If there isn't, I could pretty much go clean my own home and pretend there's a woman living there.

In the past, I've had women actually approach me with the possibility of being their houseslave, and then when they have me over for the first time, they explain to me that I will be working directly for their male submissive "assistant" and I'll probably not see the woman who wanted my service again, or rarely, if lucky. Now, I say this being someone who is EXTREMELY submissive and with a LOT of experience as a submissive: This could never work for me, and I've politely indicated that working for a dominant's male submissive eliminates the belief that I'm actually serving the woman who wanted me in the first place. Sure, you can look at it from a theoretical perspective and say that it's STILL serving Her, but honestly, that's such a weak way of looking at it, and really dysfunctional for the most part.

So, even today, I would LOVE to find a situation where I'm a woman's houseboy, or personal submissive or slave, or whatever. But I'm finding it really hard to even find that. Maybe my past perspective is covered in rosy glasses, but I never really believed it was this hard before. It's like you come really close to finding someone and then it turns into a one time joke (kind of like Rosy O'Donnell's "paint my house" response) where a sincere submissive is cast off with a joke because it's expected that there are so many others out there. And then there are no others that actually show up (other than the ones that show up and want to have their fantasies catered to), so they indicate that obviously there are no sincere submissives out there.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 5:40:36 PM

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So, even today, I would LOVE to find a situation where I'm a woman's houseboy, or personal submissive or slave, or whatever. But I'm finding it really hard to even find that. Maybe my past perspective is covered in rosy glasses, but I never really believed it was this hard before.

Are you sure you don't want to relocate to Arizona? I think you are adorable.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 5:43:49 PM

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Take some sunscreen littlesarbonn.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 5:53:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

So, even today, I would LOVE to find a situation where I'm a woman's houseboy, or personal submissive or slave, or whatever. But I'm finding it really hard to even find that. Maybe my past perspective is covered in rosy glasses, but I never really believed it was this hard before.

Are you sure you don't want to relocate to Arizona? I think you are adorable.

Aw, thanks.

After I finish my latest graduate degree (about a year and a half), who knows where I'll end up.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 7:27:31 PM

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Hello,
I have my definition of this subject, but I was wondering about other Dommes definitions of it.
My definition is a person enters someone's home, cleans thoroughly in whatever matter of dress that is acceptable to both parties, then the person who performed the tasks leaves.
I would think if there is play involved, this would be arranged before the meeting, but No Strings means no strings.

I have a No Strings housekeeper,W/we do not session.
patrice formerly meganmaid I met from here ...she comes in gets My coffee,looks at her list of things I want done and she does them.In between chores she is to make sure My coffee cup is filled.
she isnt allowed a break unless I give her permission.she also isnt allowed to sit until I say you may sit....the other subs just love that new rule.
When she is done with her chores she has a coffee and W/we girl talk for a bit,then she leaves.she has a Mistress at home that likes to hear about what she had to do.
Its a great arrangement.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 8:10:38 PM

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Are you sure you don't want to relocate to Arizona? I think you are adorable.

Hee hee hee. I agree. I like men who are talented AND submissive.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 8:49:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDolly

consentual slaves who primarily serve unconditionally out of pure devotion. I realize many play the "slave" in roleplay but very few can handle this arduous task.

Please tell us more about these slaves. What inspires them? Do they exist in the flesh?

One thing about Male Doms (to their credit) is that they don't expect housework to be the driving passion of their femsubs. Also, from what I have read here and what I have seen in my limited experience, FEMDOMs seem rather frustrated in their quest for "service oriented" subs motivated by "pure devotion."

To me, its akin to waiting in the pumpkin patch for THE GREAT PUMKIN TO RISE. Magical if it would happen, yes, but you miss out on the real chance to trick or treat while doing so.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/6/2006 8:55:36 PM

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To me, its akin to waiting in the pumpkin patch for THE GREAT PUMKIN TO RISE. Magical if it would happen, yes, but you miss out on the real chance to trick or treat while doing so.

Lol...Good one cloudboy.

Once again...I am much more interested in being a domestic for someone who actually might give a crap about me....not interested
at all in serving a narcissistic, self involved "its all about me" domme.

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/7/2006 6:43:12 AM

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I do understand that the sub does have needs also, otherwise they would not offer their services. I would have to think though that the watchful eye and supervision would be what they are looking for. I do not consider that play, but it is a type of closeness that they may need. As far as using someone, everyday you wake up, walk out of your home and interact with other human beings, each one of us is being "just used" in some way. Even if it is just someone saying hi to you and you reply, it could be they needed to hear someone respond. You just got used. I know this is an extreme situation, but I think the contract thing with an X is the best way as some here have suggested.
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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/7/2006 6:59:21 AM

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Hi cloudboy, yes they do exist--as I said they are an abberation. To put it as briefly and concisely, I quote amayos:

"Indeed, those who seek to keep or serve under the firmament of actual voluntary slavery are rare, and the undertaking is profound. It is wise of you to note the accountability inherent in such a human tie—how many who use the term slave do so with an eventual tacit understanding that they are merely actors upon a stage.

Contrary to what some have expressed in this thread, the thinking, knowing slave who serves unconditionally is not born of an accidental madness. To suggest so would be to declare all those who have given their very lives for a flag, a cause, a diety or a love equally derranged. To truly embrace complete selflessness and unflinching loyalty is to explore the deepest roots of one's desire and ability to love. It is a dire sacrifice, for one to walk from the plane of the free to that of complete bondage, for one to give every cell and drop of blood in his or her body to the pleasure, gain and wellbeing of another. It is this spirit which interests me; it is this devotion, the essence of which has compelled countless throughout generations to silently oil the wheels of human cause with their own blood that is moving and mysterious. To do anything for love and devotion is the most powerful force in the human animal; how dare we dismiss it with the cold cynisism of "logic?" "

I understand that for some, who typically have a hard time thinking outside the box and accepting things contrary to their usual way of thinking, it would be hard accept that this type of relationship can exist and can really exist with LOVE (imagine that!

), but yep, it does.

You may want to check out BDSM topic entitled Consensual Slavery? or Not? http://www.collarchat.com/m_662336/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/7/2006 7:04:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: lunamor
My slaves WANT to be used!

Just as there is good pain and bad pain, there is good using and bad using ;-)

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In the past, I've had women actually approach me with the possibility of being their houseslave, and then when they have me over for the first time, they explain to me that I will be working directly for their male submissive "assistant" and I'll probably not see the woman who wanted my service again, or rarely, if lucky.

For instance, I think the above is an example of bad using. I wonder if it is a sub in a relationship who did not want to do any housework and so he said, hey, why don't we find some other sucker who can do the housework for me. And the domme says, yeah sweetiepie, I'll attract the dude but I don't want to deal with him so you tell him what to do. We'll package it up as if he is serving me ;-)

Some people might enjoy being used like this. I expect more do not.

I think in general (BDSM and more), different people give different amounts of importance to what they would like to receive in treatment from others (love, respect, etc). For some people, respect and worth as another human is critical, and I think submissives who feel this way approach a D/s relationship on somewhat equal footing with respect to fundamental relationship dynamics (similar importance to respective needs and wants, limits, family, career, etc). I think for someone to whom respect is paramount, being used in a way that suggests lack of respect or worth for that person would be offensive. A way of being used or a general sense about the relationship that preserves the respect may very well be erotic.

Cheers,

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RE: No Strings Housework - 11/7/2006 7:08:39 AM

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