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Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 3:45:37 PM   
subwantsamaster


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Status: offline 		Hello all u Sirs'  quick n simple...Would u conceder a HIV+ for a sub or not? please explain. ont worry i wont hold judgement, just curious  ty have a ghood day
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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 3:47:59 PM   
akisha


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That if you are going to have unprotected sex, it's just common sense to make sure all parties are tested and safe. It's not worth risking your life for anyone. No matter how cute they may be.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:00:47 PM   
shadevarr


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Status: offline 		No, due to my kinks and stuff it would not be wise for me. No matter how compatible. If it was a one scene thing and they were upfront about it, I would consider it though.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:00:54 PM   
subwantsamaster


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Status: offline 		i do disclose with ALL sex or no sex..Id rather it b known b4 then too late

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:16:55 PM   
BrokenDoll


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Status: offline 		Im a slave but I can say I would not take on a Master that was HIV posative I wouldnt belong to one that had cancer eather (and knew befor hand) I dont gamble with my heart yes it sounds petty but i dont want to get into something with someone that I could lose I have had these things hit me befor (and at least with cancer there is no risk of him passing it on to me). And with the HIV well I dont know but the acts we do since this is very sexual by nature Im sorry he could be Mr right but become Mr wrong by beeing HIV posative. I know you cant get it from touching but there is to much intamesy involved I dont want to get sick or deal with someone that could get so sick. It sounds selfish I know and i feel so bad that I feel this way but life is scary enough... Ok Im a terrable person!!!



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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:40:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think BDSM is an advantageous lifestyle in that case... in a nilla relationship, you have sex at some point. You just do. In an SM relationship, it can be sexual, but it can also be about pain, and toys, and power, and stay outrageously full without intercourse. In my opinion anyway. In "Real Live Nude Girl," Carol Queen (bless that woman) talks about BDSM as safe sex, and particularly if you're poly, I can't imagine that it would be hopeless by any means. I'm a switch, and I think if I met the right person, I would consider it, I would just be careful.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:45:40 PM   
JerseyKrissi72


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Status: offline 		As a submissive woman I would NOT get involved with a Master who was HIV positive because it's just a health risk...I wouldn't have anything against being friends with someone who was HIV positive or had any type of illness but to be sexually involved, I would not...it's just not safe.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 4:47:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		No I'm sorry I couldn't. I have an unmentionable to raise and I also couldn't stand to see them suffer thru the sickness. I had a friend die of AIDS that was enough for me.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 5:20:58 PM   
subwantsamaster


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Status: offline 		well for those that think im a master im not, im a sub...and appreciate all thats been said.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 5:43:31 PM   
solia


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Status: offline 		vanilla or not, intercourse or not, exposure to body fluids is still of concern in our activities. i would not get involved with anyone .. vanilla or not .. without first sharing not only HIV status but all other cootie status'!  to me, it establishes a baseline in that relationship so if future exposure occurred..we could at least let folks know.  i also feel (and have tested this theory) that if the other doesn't want to share..well they just don't care enough about my safety now do they?  i've made this choice ~ it's my body and there's no top or bottom out there who can convince me otherwise. 
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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 5:49:05 PM   
defiantbadgirl


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Status: offline 		I have a suggestion. I'm sure there are support groups as well as dating sites for people with AIDS. Just meet someone who also has it and convince them to get kinky. Why get with someone who doesn't have it and risk passing it on to them? Even if both people agree, one or both may later regret the decision. Also, not being honest with a partner and passing it on to them is prison time.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 6:24:20 PM   
sublizzie


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Status: offline 		AIDS and HIV are not synonymous. A person who is HIV+ is not necessarily going to end up with active AIDS.

Would I be in a relationship with someone who is HIV+....maybe. It would depend on how honorable they are, how they choose to behave with others, and how careful they are with me. But then, I'm more interested in non-sexual service then lots of kinky sex.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 6:52:41 PM   
PlayfulOne


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even without the sex part,  needles, knives and such don't mix well with someone who has an infection such as that.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 7:32:51 PM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		It would depend on how they are wanting to serve. If they are looking to be service/spiritual/light SM only, certainly. If they are looking to indulge ALL my needs and wants, which would include blood, no. In the end, though, it would depend on the person...and the relative comfort of the others in the household. They have a say, too, even if I make the final decision.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 7:57:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes given current medical knowledge I would

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 8:13:48 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		I'm in the it depends camp as well, It would mean much more study on all sides, it would mean that the relationship would have to exclude behaviours where body fluid transfers are a real risk. But I can see the possibility of taking on someone with HIV as a submissive. But then again it would not be a primary relationship already have one of those.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 9:03:37 PM   
JerseyKrissi72


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Status: offline 		You must be honest with those people you are involved with because if you have unprotected sex with the knowledge that you have HIV and they become infected then that is a crime in itself and anyone to do such a cruel thing should burn in hell as far as I'm concerned...

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 9:09:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I have a suggestion. I'm sure there are support groups as well as dating sites for people with AIDS. Just meet someone who also has it and convince them to get kinky. Why get with someone who doesn't have it and risk passing it on to them? Even if both people agree, one or both may later regret the decision. Also, not being honest with a partner and passing it on to them is prison time.


In principle that should work however those who are hiv positive are also at risk for further infecting themselves with yet another strain of hiv.  Therefore just because you might have 2 people with hiv does not mean they are able to have unprotected sex, nor does it mean they are at less risk than one with hiv and one without.

I hope that made sense.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 9:27:03 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		I'm not a Sir but no I wouldn't. Anyone I am involved with has to be drugs and STD free.   I don't want to have to worry about health complications going in. Sex and that don't mean toys to genitals it means genitals to genitals is what I wish to do in my bdsm relationship with a person, I don't want to have to be super duper carefull all the time not to maybe be exposed to their body fluids.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 11/6/2006 9:35:12 PM   
defiantbadgirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I have a suggestion. I'm sure there are support groups as well as dating sites for people with AIDS. Just meet someone who also has it and convince them to get kinky. Why get with someone who doesn't have it and risk passing it on to them? Even if both people agree, one or both may later regret the decision. Also, not being honest with a partner and passing it on to them is prison time.


In principle that should work however those who are hiv positive are also at risk for further infecting themselves with yet another strain of hiv.  Therefore just because you might have 2 people with hiv does not mean they are able to have unprotected sex, nor does it mean they are at less risk than one with hiv and one without.

I hope that made sense.

Owned


How can that be? Herpes is also a virus and experts say there is no worry about spreading it if both people are infected. I'm confused.

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