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Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 9:19:25 AM   
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My question is, Do most dominant or domme women enjoy it when their sub male pleases them orally during their period? It seems to me that if a woman wants to be pleased that way at that time then it shouldn't change a thing except perhaps a towell on the surface. I know many will be revolted by this but I'd love to hear a bit about it especially anyone with personal experience. Thanks. 
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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 9:48:29 AM   
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Well, when I read your post, I almost .  That's just Me, I have heard of Dommes demanding and allowing it.  Can be a fetish for some. 

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 10:16:28 AM   
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Over time I have come across people with an interest in this activity for reasons of D/s, fascination with blood, or a draw to the symbol or expression of womanhood through the cycle.

Going down on a woman during the cycle is said to earn red wings, which are not to be confused with a brand of cowboy boots as one was done by a guy at an Austin fetish show I attended where red wings were mentioned ;-)

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 10:40:38 AM   
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I think the answers will vary from person to person. I wouldn't force it on someone, blood bonded or not. I enjoy other things just as much.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 11:14:15 AM   
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I'm not sure of the health issues involved in blood play of any type. I'd classifying oral sex during a period as blood play unless she uses a tampon.

However if there are no tears in the skin, I have learned to allow Fox to do me manually or with my vibrator during my periods. The orgasms actually help cramps a lot while allowing the flow to continue without blockage.

Oddly he had to convince me this was ok though because I was raised with certain taboos and a negative view of my period (plus very painful ones) was one of these. Here is what Fox says about it: If it comes from you, Mistress, it has to be ok and it has to be beautiful.

(I think I cried when he first said that to me)

Before the surgery I had to have a few years ago for these period problems he did some research and discovered orgasms might help. Being a good slave (by our definition of what that is) he told me about and pleaded his case that we should try it over and over and over again.

He has this great difficulty in accepting my "no" when it relates to me continuing to feel pain or be hurt -- we agree that his duty as my slave is to care for me even when I'm too stupid to realize I'm doing somthing to hurt myself. So he just keeps making his logical arguments until I'm convinced.

Now I love it.

Was that TMI?

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 6:59:50 PM   
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Menstrual blood is very clean and if you aim right you don't have to hit that area anyway if you're doing oral sex.  When I had my vanilla marriage with ex for 22 years we did it all the time, no problem.  Just used a towel and no, he didn't get bloody, lol.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 7:58:34 PM   
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Menstrual blood is very clean and if you aim right you don't have to hit that area anyway if you're doing oral sex. When I had my vanilla marriage with ex for 22 years we did it all the time, no problem. Just used a towel and no, he didn't get bloody, lol.


You all must have neater periods than me then cause my pads get covered from front to back.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 10:27:57 PM   
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I'm not sure of the health issues involved in blood play of any type. I'd classifying oral sex during a period as blood play unless she uses a tampon.

However if there are no tears in the skin, I have learned to allow Fox to do me manually or with my vibrator during my periods. The orgasms actually help cramps a lot while allowing the flow to continue without blockage.

Oddly he had to convince me this was ok though because I was raised with certain taboos and a negative view of my period (plus very painful ones) was one of these. Here is what Fox says about it: If it comes from you, Mistress, it has to be ok and it has to be beautiful.

(I think I cried when he first said that to me)


TammyJo,
I tend to share your subs views on taking care of his Mistress and particulary that what comes from my Mistress has to be okay and must be beautiful.  I find it sad that so many women have been raised with such negative views about their bodies and the natural functions of inherent only to females.  Too many often feel dirty, unclean and ashamed of their bodies for a huge variety of reasons varying from religious teachings , taboos, control issues as well as plain and simple misinformation and lack of education going back to the dark ages.

I'm not certain that your views on tampons are medically correct, having been with a former Mistress who could easily saturate one.  There was always a certain amount of menstrual blood present following insertion of a fresh one as well. 

I used to frequently provide service by washing her with warm water applied with a squeeze bottle which she found quite refreshing when either changing pads or tampons, the former of which I'd normally be responsible for removing from her panties and applying a fresh one in its place.  It was an intimate service that I personally found rewarding in that it often brought us closer at an ucomfortable and awkward time of the month for her.  I regularly used reflexology and massage to provide additional relief for her.  You might say she'd had somewhat of a similar upbringing to yours in regard to the views which were impressed upon her by her mother with respect to her body and sexuality; in particular, the purposes behind what I view as the perfectly natural functions that normally occur in the female body. 


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He has this great difficulty in accepting my "no" when it relates to me continuing to feel pain or be hurt -- we agree that his duty as my slave is to care for me even when I'm too stupid to realize I'm doing somthing to hurt myself. So he just keeps making his logical arguments until I'm convinced.

Now I love it.


I happy to hear that your sub has your best interests at heart and cares about you enough to help you overcome your upbringing along with helping you discover the added benefits of ways to relieve your monthly symptoms as not to forget helping you become open to exploring other aspects of your sensualty.   I'm especially glad that you didn't view this as him "topping from the bottom", when it appears that this was not the case.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 10:54:15 PM   
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Stuff that. That is just disgusting. I feel like going to the bathroom and throwing up. Thats just made me speechless, and this is me with nothing to say...

I would find nothing rewarding doing it. Just editing this and writing it makes me want to go have a 2 hour long shower even then i dont think the dirt will come off


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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 10:56:37 PM   
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Very much not my thing.  I am completly disniterested in sex during that time of month, anyway, though.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/7/2006 11:27:59 PM   
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I have no objection to receiving oral sex when she's menstruating.

Oh, that wasn't the question?  Oh well.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 12:22:26 AM   
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I have no objection to receiving oral sex when she's menstruating.


Philanthropist or martyr? ::chuckles::



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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 12:25:44 AM   
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lol LAM ...
 
Have no issues with it ... I'm a clit girl, quick draw mcgraw, and like Tammyjo find orgasm helps to ease cramps and the like during menstruation...after a shower, followed by a sensual massage, him going down seems a natural conclusion.
 
A lesbian friend of mine use to follow me around the house begging to be allowed to get down and dirty between my legs when I was menstruating around her lol ... damn woman! some days I had to beat her off with a stick!



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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 5:21:45 AM   
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Not my thing. We do have sex during my period if the flow is very light, but if its a big ole mess like usual, then Im not interested. Oral sex during my period just doesn't do anything for me, though I know he would do it if I told him too.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 6:45:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imtempting
Stuff that. That is just disgusting. I feel like going to the bathroom and throwing up. Thats just made me speechless, and this is me with nothing to say...

I would find nothing rewarding doing it. Just editing this and writing it makes me want to go have a 2 hour long shower even then i dont think the dirt will come off


No, you did have *something* to say imtempting, and the cat didn't seem to catch your tongue at all speechless!

As you noted, YOU would find nothing rewarding doing it for a Mistress, provided of course you had one!  The fact is, that there are at least some subs, who think about their Mistresses and what they can do to help them through their menstrual periods (odd name for it, considering that it's women that have them instead of men, yeah I know it comes from the latin word menses and not from the modern english word for men, but still seems odd to me). 

BTW, you might find simply brushing your teeth and washing your face more effective than a shower after providing this kind of service for a Mistress.  It would save a lot of water and you wouldn't have to waste time looking for dirt that doesn't exist in a woman's menstrual flow.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 6:54:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

I'm not certain that your views on tampons are medically correct, having been with a former Mistress who could easily saturate one. There was always a certain amount of menstrual blood present following insertion of a fresh one as well.



I don't use tampons -- yuck, the very idea of them is yuck to me. So I can only go by what they claim they do. I'm not surprised they don't do everything they claim.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 7:36:51 AM   
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lol LAM ...
 
Have no issues with it ... I'm a clit girl, quick draw mcgraw, and like Tammyjo find orgasm helps to ease cramps and the like during menstruation...after a shower, followed by a sensual massage, him going down seems a natural conclusion.
 
A lesbian friend of mine use to follow me around the house begging to be allowed to get down and dirty between my legs when I was menstruating around her lol ... damn woman! some days I had to beat her off with a stick!




I'm bi and I sub to a Woman but dominate males, so I experience both sides of this one. My Mistress is not crazy about the mess, but loves getting orgasms during Her period (after the first day, when she generally has no desire for it), so I serve Her orally but mostly with a tampon in. I'm fine with that, and am also fine with it the other way. With My malesubs, I don't require it, but for some of them it's a good soft limit to push. I love getting licked when I'm menstruating! I just make sure not to be wearing anything that will stain...

As to whether oral sex during menstruation constitutes "blood play," I don't think so, any more than eating a placenta (which some hippie couples do, I hear) would violate a vegetarian ethic, because no animal is killed in order to produce it. Menses are not just blood but the lining of the womb grown to support the development of a foetus. No blood vessel is ruptured to produce menses unlike with knife or needle play. There is the issue of HIV, which would be transmissable via menses because the virus is throughout the bloodstream, and so that's a factor--ditto Heps B and C. (Question: since female ejaculate is made in the bladder and is basically diluted urine mixed with estrogens, does getting squirted on when performing oral service constitute a golden shower? [giggles])

Memo to imtempting: menses are not "dirty," dude. They are actually very clean when they come out, since they are the contituents of the lining of the uterus, which has to be clean because We Women make babies inside it. It's actually full of antibodies. If you are squigged personally by the thought of getting moonjuice on your face, well, fine. But don't make such a silly fuss. You remind Me of the scene in Ace Ventura, Pet detective when Ace finds out he has smooched a tranny and he showers over and over and scrubs his lips with a brillo pad, etc. But you'll be happy to know that your phobia is widespread in patriarchies everywhere from Africa to Israel to India--lots of cultures  have sent Us off to the menstrual hut, the red tent, or wherever because we're "unclean" when We have our monthly flow. I suspect that this taboo has two possible origins (any anthropologists in da house?). One would be that a period represents a non-pregnancy, that is, a month when a womanslave is not doing her duty to mankind (sic) by bearing more babies, and therefore reflects badly on hubbydaddy. Another would be that intercourse during menstruation is "unproductive," and sex in patriarchies is officially for reproduction--just ask any fundie, whether Christian/Catholic, Islamist, or Orthodox Jewish. (Of course, since men want to get up in there to thump their loads, patriarchy also breeds prostitution--and the more productivist and masculinist the culture is, the more whores there will be in it, a point nicely made by Margaret Atwood in her wonderful novel The Handmaid's Tale---but equally shown by the several square miles of red light district in Victorian London that made it so much fun for Jack the Ripper, another Brit who hated the insides of Women so much he had to take them out and drape them over the furniture. But even more profoundly, menstruation represents the essentially Female in a form that does not involve passing on the genes of hubbydaddy. No wonder dom males dislike it so much!

On the topic of the sacred significance and cultural importance of menstruation, I highly recommend the work of the feminist poet-scholar Judy Grahn, and also the book The Wise Wound by Penelope Shuttleworth and Peter Redgrove, two wonderful English poets.

Wet red kisses to all you squggy boys! Mmmwah!


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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 9:38:11 AM   
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I suspect that this taboo has two possible origins (any anthropologists in da house?). One would be that a period represents a non-pregnancy, that is, a month when a womanslave is not doing her duty to mankind (sic) by bearing more babies, and therefore reflects badly on hubbydaddy. Another would be that intercourse during menstruation is "unproductive," and sex in patriarchies is officially for reproduction


I am not an anthropologist but here is a post I made elsewhere which you might find relevant. It was made in response to someone asking help with ideas because her sub wanted to explore consumption.

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I recall a conversation not too long ago about a book called (I think) Realm of the Ring Lords. The guy who read it said that Lord of the Rings drew some inspiration from it. The book discusses that in the past females had a lot more prominence in religion, and kings would consume menstrual blood of a priestess to stay free of harm. Incidentally, he further said that myth of vampires was propogated by patriarchical religions to discredit this practice. The idea of ritual suggested earlier in this thread is a good one, and you might be able to find ideas from history and other pagan religions.

I have a friend who is part of a pagan religion. Their religious ritual has a priest praying to a priestess on his knees to sounds of hand drums. As part of the ritual, he consumes a biscuit. The dough for this biscuit includes menstrual blood of the priestess. Using menstrual blood in cooking may be a way to extend this play to other days. You could take off on this spin. It's funny how the string attached to a tampon resembles the string on a teabag. Does your sub like tea? ;-)


As for the taboo, I expect it is related more to the taboo we are taught against anything that relates to the genitalia. For example, if we suppose that fingernail growth was to accelerate during the menstrual cycle I don't think the fingernails would be viewed the same way even if the rapid growth stemmed from the menstrual cycle.

For the squick factor, I expect it is related more to a squick in general with blood or that that is expelled.

My two cents.

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/8/2006 10:17:16 AM   
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I do not force this service on someone who is unwilling, but it hasn't been an issue in a long time.  And it's not only submissives, some of my "vanilla" lovers love going down during that time of the month too.  Granted I don't have alot of flow, and it's never been "messy".  I personally wouldn't want to go down on a woman during her period, but then again I don't like to go down or give head in general, the period isn't really the issue. 

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RE: Oral Sex During Menstruation - 11/9/2006 12:37:19 AM   
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Yes I adore oral/any other kind of sex during menstruation.
No, it is not something I demand or require, but it is something my boy/lover would be wise to enjoy since I would be happier/satisfied, and much less likely to do my BitchGoddess routine during the first couple of days during my menses.   M

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