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Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 2:15:52 AM   
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First I should say I'm a submissive/slave, and have only had r/l experience, so very sketchy on the proper etiquette online, if I use words/terms/titles incorrectly, please feel free to correct me (in fact I'd appreciate it) and please don't take offense.  Of course, please feel free to send me mail on the other side if you'd rather not discuss this on the boards as well

Ok, so my question is:

Are there any Mistresses/Dommes here who practice financial domination/slavery? 

I ask because in a mail exchange with another member who is a sub male, he said my attitude would apply well to financial domination.  Which likely sounds like an insult but we've chatted quite a while and I believe he said this with no intentions of offending me lol

We had a discussion come up about my love of shopping and my views on men, what I expect and so on, and a solid income was on the list.  Since he's not working he asked me more about it and yadda yadda here we are with him having said that and it got me wondering if this does in fact happen.

He explained dommes requiring tributes, and often time tributes being cash or gift in lieu of cash.  He did clarify that not ALL dommes require this, but most do, especially prodommes.

Are there actually instances where a man will want to simply surrender money, and that is all?

My penpal here is absolutely positive I could profit, but even in the most technical aspects it doesn't sound feasible.  How do you receive a payment from these men?  Wouldn't they be able to locate you somehow, which would be terrible if he were some kind of psychopath?

I'm very curious, can't see myself actually doing it, but my penpal also knows that I have toyed with a dominant side of myself that is there at times, but doesn't suit me in a relationship, and is only for infrequent "fun". 

Do the majority of the men require actual domination?  Or the fact they see money leaving their account balance is domination to them in and of itself?

Sorry for a long post, I have so many questions, my curiosity knows no bounds

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 2:27:54 AM   
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How embarassing to type 'fist' rather than first on a board such as this  lol

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 3:05:25 AM   
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financial domination = opportunistic, lazy, gold diggin', too lazy to work, low self esteem, money grubber.

just one slave's opinion. 

now that this is out of the way...my Mistress owns me completely.  that is mind, body, spirit,  all that i am, AND all that i own/earn.  BUT, and this is the huge BUT....while I am happy to turn everything over to her, neither one of us would ever have gotten past "hello" if there was ever any mention of financial.  I knew I needed to be a slave and that i desired to give myself completely to one who inspired me, and was willing to take me.  but i had to know that she wanted me for ME, not for the things or the money I could give her.  As our relationship grew organically, and we came to trust, love and respect each other more and more, I became more and more comfortable in ceding control of my life to her.  But I know with her, it was NEVER about money. It was about something much higher....spirit.

back in the day before the internet, there was a clear distinction between ProDommes who provided a service for remuneration, and lifestyle Dommes who were looking for service and a relationship.  Now it seems that any greedy pretty face (and some not so pretty) looking for an easy buck can become and instant freeze-dried money domme.  99.9% of these women have no clue or interest in D/s, but rather in a man's wallet.  Even the OP, no offence to you, you speak about possibly getting into it, even though you are a slave.  What D/s satisfaction would you possibly get out of it?  If you were to do it, it would be purely for the money.  Right?  Again, nothing to do with D/s, but everything to do with opportunity.

I am one of the lucky ones.  I serve a Mistress who loves me, respects me, and fills my life with joy.  I have many sub male friends who are still "out there" on their search and believe me, I feel their pain with the absolute proliferation of these so called financial dommes.  obviously there are guys out there stupid or desperate enough to pay them.  i boggles my mind.  I was speaking to a good friend just today who recently contacted a "domme" on this site and one of her first questions back to him was "what kind of car do you drive?".  not "where do you feel your submission comes from?"  not "how do you feel you could serve?"  not "how many years have you been involved in teh lifestyle?", not "are you close with your family?"  but "WHAT KIND OF CAR DO YOU DRIVE?".  I told him to run like the wind. 

If Mistress had asked me something like that, we never would have even met for coffee.  But she is one of the REAL ones. 

I am not bagging on ProDommes here.  I have many friends in teh lifestyle who are ProDommes.  Wonderful, knowledgable, respectable people who do a lot of good for the community, and provide a valuable service.  But they are being open and honest, laying all cards on the table.  But the disembodied typist on the other end of hte computer who claims to NOT be Pro, but requires tribute, or to be "spoiled" is just some low life looking to capitalize on other people's desparation.

sorry for the rant....Mistress is out of town this weekend and I obviously have some pent up energy.  :)

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 3:15:56 AM   
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Are there any Mistresses/Dommes here who practice financial domination/slavery? 

Let's include the Top ? Doms here...see what results you get. ;)

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 5:39:50 AM   
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Hercuckslave - I both agree and disagree with you opinions, so we can agree to disagree lol  I think it would be wrong to emotionally manipulate anyone, period, no matter what your goal in the end is, be it money, or doing for some kind of twisted kicks/fun...any way you slice it, that to me is dispicable.

That said, I see nothing wrong with any of the dommes here being in it solely for money, I don't think it's bad karma or blackening your soul to do this for money and not have a passion, or even an interest in D/s in your personal life.  To me, it can be just another job like any other.  I know layers with no real passion to see justice prevail, they will gain success from skills of presentation, they're in it for the money and the money alone, no desire to help people, change the world, set an example -- it's what they do to make a living.  I wouldn't choose that for myself, but I respect a person's right to do what they like within reason, and in my boundaries, that's within reason.

For me, prodommes could be just that, professionals in dominating.  I don't by any stretch believe all dommes are like this, not even the majority probably, but some.  If the cards are all on the table from the start and you have consenting adults...who are any of us to judge that.  If one doesn't like it, then it's one's choice not to incorporate into their own lives.  Just MHO, no disrespect meant to your position on the issue whatsoever.

SirDiscipliner69 (wow longest nick I've typed thus far lol) - I'm not sure I understood what you meant...that i'm using the words incorrectly and it should say Top instead?  Or that I should include all tops, not just the ladies?

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 2:12:33 PM   
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I have a list of loves, which I've outlined that includes all kinds of domination.  But I was also good at investing and trading and making money out of money in my past and increasing net worth.  And while I don't expect total financial domination at the start of  any relationship, I do expect to be respected for the gifts I bring to the table.  Enough said?

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 6:46:34 PM   
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jdtallfem - I *think* it's enough said.  I'm a bit unsure whether I'm on the right track, but I'm thinking that part of the "respect" would be financial, as well as showing his respect through his service to you in any other way that pleased you.

If I'm incorrect then sadly no, I didn't understand

I'm also a bit disappointed that there aren't many replies, but I'm guessing maybe this is one of those topics nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.  Is it considered generally a "bad" form of domination if it's strictly financial?  Do the majority share the feelings that were shared bu Hercuckslave?

Hopefully it's not so bad as to be offensive entirely to even post about it.  I'd just always assumed the only domination clients wanted from a prodomme would be the hollywood standards; being degraded verbally, tied up, spanked, whipped, that sort of thing.  Now being here and seeing it's different has me interested in what it's like for REAL people rather than just characters in mainstream movies or mainstream documentaries about the 'lifestyle' -- which would be a misleading term to call what they propegate really, it was always shown as a once in a while business transaction mainly for corporate men needing to be out of their usual 'control' they experienced at the office and at home.

Again, sorry if it's been offensive to anyone to have posed the questions that I did

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 7:02:02 PM   
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jdtallfem - I *think* it's enough said.  I'm a bit unsure whether I'm on the right track, but I'm thinking that part of the "respect" would be financial, as well as showing his respect through his service to you in any other way that pleased you.

If I'm incorrect then sadly no, I didn't understand

I'm also a bit disappointed that there aren't many replies, but I'm guessing maybe this is one of those topics nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.  Is it considered generally a "bad" form of domination if it's strictly financial?  Do the majority share the feelings that were shared bu Hercuckslave?

Hopefully it's not so bad as to be offensive entirely to even post about it.  I'd just always assumed the only domination clients wanted from a prodomme would be the hollywood standards; being degraded verbally, tied up, spanked, whipped, that sort of thing.  Now being here and seeing it's different has me interested in what it's like for REAL people rather than just characters in mainstream movies or mainstream documentaries about the 'lifestyle' -- which would be a misleading term to call what they propegate really, it was always shown as a once in a while business transaction mainly for corporate men needing to be out of their usual 'control' they experienced at the office and at home.

Again, sorry if it's been offensive to anyone to have posed the questions that I did


If you are talking about financial domination as the "core" of what the relationship is based in (vs. asking/demanding the sub send the occassional gift or tribute), I will warn you that it something that sounds attractive but there's no such thing as a free lunch.  I've done a lot of phone domination (in the past, not so much now), and the "money pig" type slaves or those that requested "financial domination" were among the WORST when it came to wanting to control the fantasy.  Men who have a fetish about being used for their money or dominated financial have an erotic relationship with their cash in such a way that they MUST retain control behind the scenes, period.  They also risk getting scammed and burned, so they are (and have every right to be) meticulously anal about how the relationship would proceed.

It's simply not worth the effort, and is the kind of fetish that sucks every ounce of passion out of the power exchange because of that.  Like any  "intense fetishes", realize that the femdom, to be effective, is essentially catering to the fantasy.

This does not mean you get to spend all his money and he sends great gifts. It means if you want him to buy something, it better be worth his time, and something sexy to buy (forget about getting something functional that you need). And in most cases, financial "slaves" are downright cheap -- so, yeah, you can get a pair of shoes in your size, but they are either remarkably unfunctional (ie, they cater to his fetish) or cheap knock offs.  And, you WILL have to dominate him, hour for hour, more than a working pro femdom would have to in order to earn the reasonable age to by the shoes herself. 

Other financial slaves like the IDEA that you will control his money, yadda yadda yadda, and will drain you with hours of talk or email talking about "how this will be arranged". Meanwhile, he's jerking off to each and every line of it, or wants to talk endlessly of it, but the reality of it NEVER comes to be.  He will cut you loose before money is exchanged.  This is what I have observed in others; personally, I stopped talking to "financial slaves" because the fetish itself was boring as hell.

The times in my pay-for-play experiences where I would exchange "domination" for gifts because the sub liked the arrangement (ie, enjoyed "gifting" or "buying nice things" for the femdom as part of his submission) were clearly more one-sided (on the sub's side) than those that were a straight, pre-agreed upon exchange of money for domination.  At least in those cases you know where you stand, and don't have to deal with a sub basically trying to manipulate the femdom with the promise of goodies or gifts.

Finally, the "gifting slaves" or those into financial domination are among the WORST at common sense or romantic touch; in other words, yeah, you can expect that the guy may send a nice token or gesture, but only if you spell it out for him (and it meets his financial guidelines, so forget it of it's expensive) and work for the gesture.  You can kiss goodbye the warm feeling of having a man send a nice gift, based on his imagination and heart, that comes and surprises you or takes your breath away. 

My advice?  If you want to engage in any kind of domination for fee, do it straight across the board where BOTH parties know what they are getting out of it.  Otherwise, you will end up frustrated, and you suffer the poor reputation associated with "financial femdoms."  And, you get lumped unfairly into the category with scam artists ("send me $20 to prove you are sincere").

And before any irritable, bitter subs jump all over me for my knowledge/experience with pay for play domination, my career has nothing to do with S&m and I am the breadwinner in my femdom relationship -- my sub doesn't even earn an income.  You can't call me a golddigger.  I don't need the money.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 7:51:21 PM   
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If you are talking about financial domination as the "core" of what the relationship is based in (vs. asking/demanding the sub send the occassional gift or tribute), I will warn you that it something that sounds attractive but there's no such thing as a free lunch.  I've done a lot of phone domination (in the past, not so much now), and the "money pig" type slaves or those that requested "financial domination" were among the WORST when it came to wanting to control the fantasy.  Men who have a fetish about being used for their money or dominated financial have an erotic relationship with their cash in such a way that they MUST retain control behind the scenes, period.  They also risk getting scammed and burned, so they are (and have every right to be) meticulously anal about how the relationship would proceed.

It's simply not worth the effort, and is the kind of fetish that sucks every ounce of passion out of the power exchange because of that.  Like any  "intense fetishes", realize that the femdom, to be effective, is essentially catering to the fantasy.

This does not mean you get to spend all his money and he sends great gifts. It means if you want him to buy something, it better be worth his time, and something sexy to buy (forget about getting something functional that you need). And in most cases, financial "slaves" are downright cheap -- so, yeah, you can get a pair of shoes in your size, but they are either remarkably unfunctional (ie, they cater to his fetish) or cheap knock offs.  And, you WILL have to dominate him, hour for hour, more than a working pro femdom would have to in order to earn the reasonable age to by the shoes herself. 

Other financial slaves like the IDEA that you will control his money, yadda yadda yadda, and will drain you with hours of talk or email talking about "how this will be arranged". Meanwhile, he's jerking off to each and every line of it, or wants to talk endlessly of it, but the reality of it NEVER comes to be.  He will cut you loose before money is exchanged.  This is what I have observed in others; personally, I stopped talking to "financial slaves" because the fetish itself was boring as hell.

The times in my pay-for-play experiences where I would exchange "domination" for gifts because the sub liked the arrangement (ie, enjoyed "gifting" or "buying nice things" for the femdom as part of his submission) were clearly more one-sided (on the sub's side) than those that were a straight, pre-agreed upon exchange of money for domination.  At least in those cases you know where you stand, and don't have to deal with a sub basically trying to manipulate the femdom with the promise of goodies or gifts.

Finally, the "gifting slaves" or those into financial domination are among the WORST at common sense or romantic touch; in other words, yeah, you can expect that the guy may send a nice token or gesture, but only if you spell it out for him (and it meets his financial guidelines, so forget it of it's expensive) and work for the gesture.  You can kiss goodbye the warm feeling of having a man send a nice gift, based on his imagination and heart, that comes and surprises you or takes your breath away. 

My advice?  If you want to engage in any kind of domination for fee, do it straight across the board where BOTH parties know what they are getting out of it.  Otherwise, you will end up frustrated, and you suffer the poor reputation associated with "financial femdoms."  And, you get lumped unfairly into the category with scam artists ("send me $20 to prove you are sincere").

And before any irritable, bitter subs jump all over me for my knowledge/experience with pay for play domination, my career has nothing to do with S&m and I am the breadwinner in my femdom relationship -- my sub doesn't even earn an income.  You can't call me a golddigger.  I don't need the money.

Akasha



AMEN to that!!!
I am both a lifestyle domme and a pro domme (Yes, we do exist).  Because of some personal circumstances, I need a way to earn an income where the hours are very flexible.  I enjoy what I do and becoming a pro domme was not a big stretch for me.  I will openly admit that when I am in the role of a pro domme, I lose some of that TPE that I have with my personal submissive.  If I am fulfilling someone's fantasy and being paid to do it, I am being topped from the bottom to some extent.  It may not feel that way in the dungeon (I try very hard to keep as much control as possible), but that's actually what's going to end up happening or you're going to have a very unhappy client.  It helps to make sure that their interests are very similar to yours and be very open minded to experiencing and learning new things.
Now then.................I have been fooling around with someone who claimed he wanted me to charge him ridiculous rates for some online and over the phone domination, supposedly coming to fruition any time now.  Just as AAkasha stated, the money ends up getting held out there like a carrot.  He has made suggestions from the very beginning about how he would like things to go.  I have spent hours dominating him on the phone and I have yet to see one penny.  I'm not going to throw a tantrum about it because it was my own fault for letting him get away with it.  I realize now that I will never see any financial gain from this situation and it's best to just ignore him from now on.  Live and learn. 
I have also offered opportunities to subs/slaves to exchange some sort of labor for playtime.  Again, you will inevitably end up getting burned.  A straight tribute across the board is really the only way to make the situation work.  Believe it or not (and I know that a lot of you will NOT), my best, most respectful clients are the ones who abide by the pay for play rule.
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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/2/2006 11:35:58 PM   
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Now THAT was detailed experience!  Thanks a bunch AAkasha & MstrssScarlet.  I have a feeling and it's really confirmed I think in your posts, that this is a 'taboo' or not respected topic, but it made me very curious wondering if secretly the majority were financially dominating, and maybe that is why you see so many younger dommes whose profiles wouldn't appeal to myself as a submissive, there's huge money in it...is what I'd assumed.  This does a lot to clear that up though.

Maybe it's a more vanilla thing to do, in my younger years (is ok to be 19 and use that phrase? lol) I thought it was 'fun' to accept gifts and exploit men with wealth who were trying desperately to win over a young trophy girl...I'm actually fully aware in hindsight I was lucky I encountered respectable men who didn't force me to "earn" those gifts or shopping sprees, if you know what I mean.  I would definitely not advise any girls to do what I did, but immaturity lead me to think it was perfectly fine and didn't consider the dangers.

At any rate, from that experience being with men I can only assume were not into the D/s lifestyle and how they enjoyed "spoiling" and the like, I was pretty convinced a submissive man would be much more likely to enjoy the same to an extremely deeper degree.

It's interesting to read that this wasn't the case.

And thinking back a friend of mine was approached by a man offering her a large sum, I believe it was 2 thousand dollars, to go with him to an office party and he would not expect sex but he wanted to be urinated on.  I had no idea until very recently that he was not the only person who enjoyed this practice lol

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 12:39:48 AM   
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Now THAT was detailed experience!  Thanks a bunch AAkasha & MstrssScarlet.  I have a feeling and it's really confirmed I think in your posts, that this is a 'taboo' or not respected topic, but it made me very curious wondering if secretly the majority were financially dominating, and maybe that is why you see so many younger dommes whose profiles wouldn't appeal to myself as a submissive, there's huge money in it...is what I'd assumed.  This does a lot to clear that up though.

Maybe it's a more vanilla thing to do, in my younger years (is ok to be 19 and use that phrase? lol) I thought it was 'fun' to accept gifts and exploit men with wealth who were trying desperately to win over a young trophy girl...I'm actually fully aware in hindsight I was lucky I encountered respectable men who didn't force me to "earn" those gifts or shopping sprees, if you know what I mean.  I would definitely not advise any girls to do what I did, but immaturity lead me to think it was perfectly fine and didn't consider the dangers.

At any rate, from that experience being with men I can only assume were not into the D/s lifestyle and how they enjoyed "spoiling" and the like, I was pretty convinced a submissive man would be much more likely to enjoy the same to an extremely deeper degree.

It's interesting to read that this wasn't the case.

And thinking back a friend of mine was approached by a man offering her a large sum, I believe it was 2 thousand dollars, to go with him to an office party and he would not expect sex but he wanted to be urinated on.  I had no idea until very recently that he was not the only person who enjoyed this practice lol


Just be aware that when a man says he wants to "spoil" you (as a trophy giflfriend, domina, whatever), no matter how much he suggests that it's "no strings" or that you will be in control, it's not the case.  There's no such thing as a free lunch.  Men do not want to spoil a (random) woman unconditionally.  This kind of affection you will only find in a relationship based on mutual love and respect; and, to be honest, that's the only way it's fulfilling and without strings.  Men that flaunt cash or power as a way to woo a lady or insinuate they want to "spoil" you are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personality and/or want a woman they can control with money.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 1:23:30 AM   
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Hearty applause to Ms. Akasha and Ms. Scarlet.  Very well said by both ladies.  Thanks. 

I agree that any form of finances involved in D/s play is best served in an up front, across the boards exchange.  As I said in my post, that is one thing I respect about serious Professional Dommes as opposed to the freeze dried money dommes.  Pros lay the cards on the table, say this is how it is, and exchange a service for remuneration.  Clean, simple, pure.

And Ms. Scarlet, you are one of the FIRST Pro Dommes who I've seen openly admit that in a prodomme situation, it is the client who is the one in control, not the Domme.   Bravo for calling a spade a spade.  It always makes me roll my eyes a bit when a ProDomme claims that she is different and she is always the one in control of her "slaves".  Fact of the matter is they are not "slaves", they are clients.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 3:01:54 AM   
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AAkasha - Agree, and definitely snapped out of the immature ways of thinking quite a while ago when it comes to playing into what it is they're after.  At the time I felt I was the one pulling the strings, because I got everything I wanted without so much as accompanying them on a one on one date, but in the end we were both in our own ways using one another.

Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone, and hopefully in my case the age is accompanied by tidbits of wisdom lol

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 6:46:05 AM   
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How embarassing to type 'fist' rather than first on a board such as this  lol



Hehehehehehe......... isn't it great?

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 6:52:36 AM   
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It really is *giggles* It's my new guilty pleasure

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 7:22:57 AM   
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First off, this financial slavery isn't limited to Femdoms. I was talking to a gay male dom online about ten years ago, and he said that he wanted a sub that would hand over all his income to him. I let him know it was not something I was interested in.

I do agree with all the posters that finacial D/s relationships, especially if that is the core of the domination is not exactly a rewarding experience. I don't even want to find a Dom/me that is the sole breadwinner in the relationship. I would feel that I'm not doing my end to financially help out in the relationship. I'm not into the 1950s type of households where there is one breadwinner and one housekeeper. Today the lines are very blurred. I do agree that someone who is into finanical slavery are just looking for a free ride, so to speak. This could be the dom or the sub.

I don't have a problem with tributes, as long as it isn't the core of the relationship. I pay tributes in order to make my SO happy; these tributes might not even really be cash or gifts, it could simiply be an act.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 7:47:32 AM   
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When my Master and i first met,  there wasn't any discusson or expectations in  regards to financial control or financilal domination. In fact quite the opposite. I was working full time in a high profile position  with the allied health services here in Oz.and studiying part time and...He was in Goverment.
He valued  both my intllegence and financial independance.
i  became seriously ill  6 months later and had to leave work and my partime studies. i am now on a disability payment while He has been able to set up His own business. He now supports both  myself and my child, emotionally, mentally and  now financialy.
Both of us are getting more into the 1950's lifestyle more than we would have imagined..


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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 8:02:27 AM   
timeoutgurlie


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pink - Thanks for adding that, I should have included of course the male/male option also.  Maybe even female/female or male/female where the female is the one who is being financially dominated.  Honestly hadn't considered it until you brought it up

katie - Neither here nor there but I actually enjoy many of the 1950s concepts as it pertains to be a female who is submissive, so cheers to that!  Very sorry however to hear it was due to illness and now a disability, there's no way really to feel good about saying "how you're living is great" under those circumstance.  Do wish you a return to work if possible/wanted, and if not then wish you all the happiness in whichever direction you each/both decide to take it.  You sound overall very contented despite a huge life change such as yours, so that's wonderful

As I stated before, I doubt I would do this, but not due any moral objections.  I am a submissive, identify more with slave actually, though I'm not sure how the term resonates online so I choose to highlight more of the submissive when I post.  Anyhow, I do enjoy domination as virtually a roleplay, it's no different to me than say puppy play, kitten play, being a nurse, schoolgirl, fighter pilot, whatever, all just for fun, it doesn't mean I actually start to believe and tell others, "No, really, I *DO* fly planes, here hop in I'll show you!"

If I ever dabbled, it would be for money only, and would include very little actual domination as it's something I have to feel a pang of to be done well and I rarely feel it, so it's really a hypothetical as far as *myself* actually doing this.

If I did though, I do value honesty and integrity despite revealing my shortcoming in both characteristics in my past, so I would very clearly state I only wanted their money and that was all there would be to it unless I felt a whim to give them domination.  Hardly a situation I'd expect many to desire, and there's quite possibly *none* who would from what I've read here.

I'll admit, I'm a little saddened by that, I have a spending streak a mile wide, there will never be too much money in my life

I'll survive just fine after 5 more mins of pouting about it

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 9:23:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hercuckslave

financial domination = opportunistic, lazy, gold diggin', too lazy to work, low self esteem, money grubber.

just one slave's opinion. 
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It’s your opinion but an insult because I don’t think you really understand the dynamic. It’s ok if you’re not into but what about the people who are into this? I am more then capable of paying my own bills and the last thing anyone can call me is lazy. I just got off the phone with a man who has been financially serving me for almost 10 years. He sends me gifts, we talk and you know what? It’s not about his sexual needs to beat off to kinky sex. We have built a wonderful and trusting relationship. He enjoys buying me things. The men interested in financial slavery REALLY ENJOY it and they seek out a woman that also enjoys it. Not because they are getting something for free but because of the rush. If you’re not into it then you’re not so you just couldn’t understand. I just get a little sick of this constant stigma just because there’s money involved. I am a Goddess because I BELIEVE that I am. It’s not about a free ride but a state of mind.
  Ok, enough of that. I think Akasha is correct on many levels. Its ok to do what you want to do as long as both people agree and you lay your cards on the table. Who are we to judge anyhow? If two consenting adults enjoy this great! If a man gets taken by a woman that is not sincere well then that’s one of life’s lessons he needs to learn.


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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 9:28:07 AM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

We had a discussion come up about my love of shopping and my views on men, what I expect and so on, and a solid income was on the list.  Since he's not working he asked me more about it and yadda yadda here we are with him having said that and it got me wondering if this does in fact happen.



BDSM aside… you have every right to want to seek a person who is employed and financially stable. If you plan on building a life with someone you wan there to be compatibility of every level. If I am a responsible person I expect my partner, submissive or other, to be as responsible as I am. This doesn’t have a dollar amount but there are indeed layer of culture. Its not uncommon to seek out someone who is more like you.


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