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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:19:42 PM   
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I'm using a birth control that is 99.99 percent effective.


argh, I'd be freakin' over that.  You know what they say, though, only one thing is 100% effective



I know. I was gambling that since it took my parents 12 years of trying to have one kid that I could go with just my birth control. Maybe I was being dumb.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:21:02 PM   
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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:21:36 PM   
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I must say, when it comes to pregnancy, you just cant know how you'd feel until it happens to you. You may have rationalized it completely in advance and come to some very common sense desicions. But then suddenly you get pregnant, even if youve taken every precaution agaisnt it. Now what?


I think you misunderstood me, Sophia. It's a non-issue for me because I can't have any more children so I'm never going to suddenly find myself pregnant. ::chuckles:: I posted because I wanted to bring up the point that there are 'other' ways in which one can be or become a parental figure unexpectedly besides giving birth or being unexpectedly pregnant and Himself and I spent a great deal of time speaking on the issue 'before' he collared me. I already know that he will accept my grandchildren into our lives as our own, be financially, emotionally and physically responsible for them, should the need arise. The same holds true for our nieces and nephews and my God-daughter.

We like kids. :) If it had been possible, there are few things on this Earth that I would have enjoyed more than being able to have a child with Himself. It simply wasn't meant to be.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:22:28 PM   
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Caveat.. i am responding without reading responses... and i started this response based on one line in your thread (sorry)... why won't he marry you if you had been pg?


I just asked him. His answer is "I'm not ready to be married yet. It doesn't have anything to do with pregnancy."

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:24:36 PM   
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I'm using a birth control that is 99.99 percent effective.


argh, I'd be freakin' over that.  You know what they say, though, only one thing is 100% effective



I know. I was gambling that since it took my parents 12 years of trying to have one kid that I could go with just my birth control. Maybe I was being dumb.


No you are not being dumb... it is very rare that a woman gets pregnant with the more reliable forms of birth control. For example I have an IUD that has a hormonal component. It is 99.99% effective. My Daddy has had a vasectomy. If I was to get pregnant I would be seriously shocked to the depths of my soul. I would probably be happy about it and we would throw a big party, but I still would be shocked. I have the IUD for medical reasons, not for birth control.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:26:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, I didn't have time to read through all the replies before offering my perspective but there it goes. While I might be a slave and my life, body, etc belongs to my Master, my future or existing child isn't anyone's property. He/she is an independent human being and my obligation to this little person come before any other. My slavery is my choice not the child's.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:30:30 PM   
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I'm using a birth control that is 99.99 percent effective.


argh, I'd be freakin' over that.  You know what they say, though, only one thing is 100% effective



I know. I was gambling that since it took my parents 12 years of trying to have one kid that I could go with just my birth control. Maybe I was being dumb.


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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:32:43 PM   
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posted because I wanted to bring up the point that there are 'other' ways in which one can be or become a parental figure unexpectedly besides giving birth or being unexpectedly pregnant and Himself and I spent a great deal of time speaking on the issue 'before' he collared me. I already know that he will accept my grandchildren into our lives as our own, be financially, emotionally and physically responsible for them, should the need arise. The same holds true for our nieces and nephews and my God-daughter.

We like kids. :) If it had been possible, there are few things on this Earth that I would have enjoyed more than being able to have a child with Himself. It simply wasn't meant to be.

Celeste


This is a topic that we have discussed quite a bit and continue to discuss often. Perhaps it is because our unmentionables are almost adults or they are adults, they are of reproductive age, and one day we can expect that we will be grandparents... it is because we have already faced these things that we know how important they are in our lives... we have even talked about having more of our own since my eggs are probably good for one more try for a couple of more years

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:35:14 PM   
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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:36:24 PM   
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My apologies to the mods if this is inappropriate in any way.

So this week, I've had a rather nasty pregnancy scare. My dominant has been wonderfully supportive and understanding of me during this because I had been freaking out (as a college student still trying to graduate, now is not a good time for me to become a Moma!). Last night I finally took an EPT and while my period hasn't arrived yet, the test said we are in the clear. Want babies later, not now.

The whole mess got me thinking though: What if I had been? Who decides what to do? My dominant was willing to do what felt right for me, though he wouldn't marry me. He would help support the child and be a father if I chose to keep it, but he was suggesting putting it up for adoption as well. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do but still I can't help wondering. As a submissive/slave would you do whatever your dominant/master told you to do in this situation, or would you have to make the choice yourself and try to do what you thought was right for the child? As a dominant/master would you give an order or would you let her decide? Would you be supportive of the choice, even if it wasn't one you agreed with?

While the question is set up for male dom/fem sub, I'm interested in responses from everyone. Thanks for reading,
Aqua


We had talked early on about our beliefs about unwanted pregnancy and we have over time continued to talk about it.  And I don't think either one of our views on it has changed.  If I had an unwanted pregnancy I would abort the fetus.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:36:33 PM   
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There is a song about that... It's called (i think) "Waiting on Two Pink Lines"...


I have been hearing that on the radio all the time lately!

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:39:45 PM   
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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:41:06 PM   
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I know. I was gambling that since it took my parents 12 years of trying to have one kid that I could go with just my birth control. Maybe I was being dumb.


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Oddly enough, he's not a big fan. He says they feel so good they hurt and he doesn't tolerate the "pleasure-pain" thing well.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 8:42:31 PM   
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I am confused what was the original question?


Would you obey your master/dominant if ordered what to do in the event of pregnancy or would you order your slave/sub as to their course of action.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 9:07:02 PM   
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it depends on the dynamics of the relationship, imo. if one is unowned, then i think pretty much anything can go...a joint decision/submissive's choice/Dom's choice, whatever is most natural for that particular relationship. however if one is a slave, this decision is entirely up to the Owner, imo. has nothing to do with trying to live out a fantasy, but more with accepting the reality that one is a slave ALWAYS, not just when it's convenient. unfortunately my Master and i have had to deal with this situation in the past, and it was his decision to abort. left to my own devices, i likely would have attempted to carry to term and give up for adoption, as i've had abortions in the past and really wanted to be through with that. but my body belongs to someone else, therefore the decision was in his hands. He did ask for my feelings about it, but only after he had already firmly decided what he was going to do.


Im sorry I know where you are comeing from as a slave however if the Master doesnt want children HE should be moer carfull not to get you pregnent. If he wants the luxery of haveing sole choice on what happens to the baby then he also must take sole responsability for you getting pregnent. Please remeber abortion isnt a form of birth controll!!!

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my dear magik.....
you may not be aware that daddy's prop is sometimes shared at her Masters will.... just becasue she is his...doesnt mean any particular preganacy is his .. I cringe to think of this right now.....


I am a proponant of a womans right to choose....I actually walk the walk and talk the talk...I worked in the OR at planned parenthood.

I chose to be a parent 6 times over....I am in favor of the woman's right to choose and soem choose to be parents...that is what planned parenthood is about trying to actually plan the pregnancies...rather than beign repeated surprises!



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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 9:23:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		It seems like a "should all slaves look down in their Masters' presence" kind of a question - if that's what's decided, that's what's decided. It should be as negotiated (? well, made apparent)  in a M/s couple and should definitely be discussed in advance of ownership formalities, or made clear in advance of same. 

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 9:53:08 PM   
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What about what you would then do if your Master said to keep a baby that you knew was going to be sick... Just like I mentioned earlier Tay Sachs has no cure and is devistateing even if my Master said to keep the baby but I knew he had it I wouldnt do it.... Though it is imposable for Master to carry that gean as he isnt jewish and there for since he doesnt carry it the baby could never have it Im just saying

Magik's slave


I was seriouse here... Im extra curiouse to see what daddysprop would say about this

Magik's slave




it doesn't matter what scenario you present, the fact that i am property does not change. His will is law...period.

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 10:20:42 PM   
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< Message edited by RiotGirl -- 12/8/2006 10:21:38 PM >

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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/8/2006 10:43:09 PM   
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RE: Does he own my womb? - 12/9/2006 12:20:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		When I was in my childbearing years, I made it clear to my partners my position on children, which was that I would not have any. This was included in my contracts with my partners and left no doubt as to the outcome of any pregnancies.

Contracts can be renegotiated and aren't written in stone. My daughter is testimony to that. lol

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