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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/29/2006 10:28:28 AM

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A viewpoint that may be referenced in one of LA's list of posts, but I shall drop it in here anyway as to me a lot of it makes some kind of sense http://fetishexchange.org/gift-theory.shtml

Personally to me, submission is not a gift, its a meeting of mutual needs/desires and a fair(?) trade, she trades her submission for my care, protection and nurturing. Either of us can withdraw from the deal as we see fit.

But...... Submission is a gift, I do not have the gift to play the piano by ear before I could read, nor do I have the gift of submission, I do however have the gift of, for want of a better word leadership.

To quote the rapper, that was my 10cents, my two cents are free

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/29/2006 11:06:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazy

Personally to me, submission is not a gift, its a meeting of mutual needs/desires and a fair(?) trade, she trades her submission for my care, protection and nurturing. Either of us can withdraw from the deal as we see fit.

But...... Submission is a gift, I do not have the gift to play the piano by ear before I could read, nor do I have the gift of submission, I do however have the gift of, for want of a better word leadership.

i totally agree with what you have posted here!
my views of D/s and M/s are heavily influenced by eastern philosophies particularly the concept of yin/yang ...

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/29/2006 11:14:50 AM

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i agree that submission is not a gift. Submission is an extension of who i am and a need in me that needs to be expressed. When i hear it termed "gift" it makes it sound like the sub is bestowing some grand privledge on the dom. i do understand that submission cannot be taken or forced, but just because it is given doesn't automatically make it a gift.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/29/2006 1:36:38 PM

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The typical het dominant male sub female couple I see thes days, consists of a submissive male top and a dominant female bottom. They pretend to the world and even themselves that he is in control, but she runs the relationship completely, and he hops to to "dominante" her exactly as she requires. And if they make each other happy, more power to them. The world needs more happy people.

Exactly how many of these "typical het dominant male sub female couples" have you met then? You have certainly not come across us or any of the Male Dom fem sub couples that I know. Perhaps because you have been unable to find what you are looking for you are assuming that it does not exist. I am not a dominant female bottom and would never be allowed to be by my Master. This sounds a little like sour grapes to me.

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