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why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 4:17:09 PM   
Sirandlittle1


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Hello Dom's.
I have a query that i would appreciate some male Dom insight into. When i talk to my Dom about it, it gets me too annoyed, as reasonable arguement is blocked. Dead.
 
Question is.
As a sub, ive found myself dressed up to please him. Certain looks, get him going. Not exactly rocket science is it. I have now, quite a collection of 'outfits' to provide visual stimulation for him.
Why do men feel that providing the same compliment goes against the grain, and cant?
 
When asked, im told that he would feel uncomfortable in such and such, and wouldnt be able to be himself. Does he think i feel comfortable at 42 in a school uniform!????
"taxi for mrs mutton" is how i feel.  But im the sub, so i get that he doesnt have to and i do.
 
But my argument is this. I also have visual arousal in my repetoire. And there are many 'looks' that do it for me.
And, there are one or two items of clothing, or equipment, that turn me into a salivating pavlov dog. Why would a Dom, not utilise this reaction to their advantage? Madness surely?
 
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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 4:21:29 PM   
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Rank has its privillages....
 
 

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 4:27:20 PM   
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quote:

But my argument is this. I also have visual arousal in my repetoire. And there are many 'looks' that do it for me.
And, there are one or two items of clothing, or equipment, that turn me into a salivating pavlov dog. Why would a Dom, not utilise this reaction to their advantage? Madness surely?

 
I concur.
 
Master won't wear his boots hardly ever and he knows what they do to me....

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 4:32:36 PM   
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Occasionally, I intentionally wear something that I know will drive gretchen nuts.  I don't do it always, since I don't want to turn a 'hot, favorite' look into the 'boring every day' look.

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 4:37:13 PM   
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Good on you Voltare, that's the spirit.
But you know, you can address the 'becoming mundane' issue, by

more shopping!

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:02:23 PM   
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To make a very generalized answer, because he doesn't have to.

To get into a bit more specific... it's the joy of being a dom.  I would suggest making sure that your dom knows what you like, what pieces of clothing or what have you make you happy, and then make cross your fingers.  If he feels that he should wear something you like for the day, he will.  If not, then he won't.  Those of us on top can demand that the bottom wears what we want.  The stream doesn't flow both ways, though.

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:40:23 PM   
Voltare


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You realize, of course, you're talkign to a man who's favorite T-shirts and boxer-briefs only have about 80% of their original cotten left.

I don't think I've bought a new pair of blue jeans since I was in college.  I only bought new T-shirts because my old ones look likey they were attacked by a spike trap.



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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:43:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Voltare

You realize, of course, you're talkign to a man who's favorite T-shirts and boxer-briefs only have about 80% of their original cotten left.



That's my favorite outfit... together with the naked one...

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:45:04 PM   
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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:50:38 PM   
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i, as a sub get so tired of Dom's using 'because he doesn't have to' excuse in place of the actual cause: selfishness and laziness.  being a good Dom also includes making sure your sub's needs get met too.  oh sorry, you don't have too.  zzzz

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ORIGINAL: Diamonion
To make a very generalized answer, because he doesn't have to. To get into a bit more specific... it's the joy of being a dom. 

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:53:14 PM   
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To be more specific, we have a responsibility to ensure our subs needs are met - including their need to be denied what they want often enough that they don't simply become bored of it.  If gretchen starts feeling the itch to tell me how to run the show, she knows she's welcome to try her hand at the whip - on some other poor unsuspecting bastard's flesh.

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:54:10 PM   
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To be more specific and lazy yet,. my fuckin clothes are in the closet, you lay them out, if you don't like what I am wearin' prepare for an ass whipping, fault lies with you.......

Jali, offer to put on and take off his boots, you should be able to get boot jacks over there like nothing (the cast iron grasshoppers)

LOL,
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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 5:55:43 PM   
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Tal and greetings
 
As Shakespear said "Tis the Clothes that make the Man".  I am very comfortable in a mediavel tunic as to wearing jeans and such.  Granted there are time when I must dress in the vanilla style for work and all.  But when I can I am in my tunic.  Some say I look werid but to go out and see men with their jean down to their ankles they boxer shorts showing..this is fashion????
 
I wish you well
 
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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 7:12:13 PM   
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Dear littleone of Sirandlittle1, Ladies and Gentlemen;

In my mind's eyes I see; that a slave is a reflection of me.  I also take that further, to which I am the reflection of the slave.

I personally feel that it is extremely important, to set the example for my slave; especially in public where wearing an attire speaks to those who view it, as it makes a silient statement.  Furthermore, how I dress reflects on the slave attending me.  Since most assume that a slave will be domesticly given charge of maintaining my wardrobe, how it appears speaks to the quality of service to me by how my attire is manifested.

Indeed, the Dominant has the last word on all matters (within reason and in the topic's context) dealing with their appearance; I am also consider how my slave feels.  I do not feel (in my personal mind's eyes or feelings), that it is fair of me to have my slave work hard on being the epitome of good appearances and then excuse myself with weak excuses as to look sloppy and or not taking pride in my appearances and or wearing the attire that is appropriate to the function I participate in; especially in public.

I do acknowledge and recognize the need to feed my slave in many ways.  In one manner is to appear as my slave wishes, in the privacy of our home and or dungeon.
If a slave works hard as to present a formal dinner, I will appear in formal attire.  I will not dress in casual attire, as to lessen the experience, even if we two are the only ones experiencing the formal dinner.  My slave has put their all into it, I must (in my personal mind's eyes I see) show my appreciation and respect for the effort by dressing to match that effort.  It is just how I am and appreciate the ability to feed my slave's energy and or slave heart/belly.

In my mind's eyes I see; that feeding slaves is not always with food.  It is a feeding of the different realms all humans have, each needing the recognition that there is something to feed--even if its the eyes and the sexuality 'hot buttons.'

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 7:28:48 PM   
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It's all about preference.  I want someone to dress up because it suits them and draws something from within them.  You could try the slow and steady method of oohing and aahing when they DO wear something a bit extra- such as when you go to a higher class place to eat or a fancy party, or when you are out shopping together, pointing out specific things and purring over how GREAT they would look in that and begging to buy it for them.

In the end, it's still their choice.  Most men and women can be trained on how to dress themselves up appropriately, but some may never feel comfortable with it, even knowing it will turn you on.

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 7:39:26 PM   
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quote:

Jali, offer to put on and take off his boots, you should be able to get boot jacks over there like nothing


I'm going out this afternoon to buy Master a boot jack for Christmas....stay tuned for the "Jali gets in trouble again for spending more money without asking" episode. 

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 7:46:19 PM   
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*gets some pop corn for the next installment......and thinks a naughty thought, totally to herself of course, that jali most likely can substitute her thighs as the iron vise should she not be able to find one in the store*

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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 8:34:11 PM   
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slavejali...if you must resort to a bootjack make sure it has ample soft padding on the 'jack' section so as not to scuff the boots.

One of the first things I do when Master comes in the door or when we arrive home together is take off his boots..without a jack.




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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 8:50:46 PM   
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My somewhat snarky thoughts in general, not necessarily relating to D/s relationships:

  • Many men are inept at picking out matching/coordinating/appropiate attire.
  • Some men are colorblind and cannot match pants to shirts to ties to socks etc.
  • Many men do not like to shop, especially in higher end stores so they either wear their  ratty ('comfortable') clothing until it falls off their body or they pop into Wally World once a year for another Nascar T or doubleknit golf style shirt.
  • Men often get into a rut and wear the same look for a loooong time..sometimes much longer that they should . (Hey..the 1980's are calling...they want their leather and knit sweater back).


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RE: why wont you guys dress up for us? - 12/17/2006 8:56:53 PM   
slavejali


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quote:

that jali most likely can substitute her thighs as the iron vise

 
LOL.I'd probably end up with a torn ligament hehe

quote:

One of the first things I do when Master comes in the door or when we arrive home together is take off his boots..without a jack.


Elegant: You're so lucky!!... well I get to do that too sometimes with his work boots (which are pretty hot too I must admit)...but...on the few occassions he has actually worn the ones I really really love....and gotten me to take them off, its like some comedy routine, I pull and tug and its all very difficult..finally they come off and I end up falling backwards.

< Message edited by slavejali -- 12/17/2006 8:59:35 PM >


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