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subsa -> looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 12:47:47 PM)
i've noticed there are two fairly common general sub types...those that enjoy scening for the pain and those that enjoy the scening dispite the pain. i fall into the enjoying the scening for the pain group. i don't consider myself a masochist though because the pain isn't perceived by me as pain at that time. i recently observed a scene where the sub was the other type (enjoying dispite the pain). i was profoundly aware of her pain even though she wasn't being overly dramatic about it. it seemed so beautiful and a real statement of her devotion to her Master. i'm interested in understanding that perspective. would anyone like to share their experiences?

DeepWaters -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 12:54:47 PM)
Ive always thought there were three types actually---There are some that enjoy eroticised pain (clamps hard fucking, forced anal), ( otheres that get an endorphin high (pain for pains sake, like cutting for instance)--and of course my favorite the girl who hates pain, but has pride in being able to "take it" and endure hurting for her masters pleasure.

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:02:39 PM)
what is it about the girl who 'takes the pain' that appeals to you? i've had a Dom say that he would never 'play' me because i like it too much and that's not what he's after. i'm just trying to get a sense of how that dynamic works...no judgement...

SlaveAkasha -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:06:31 PM)
I think I pretty much fit into each category. Sometimes, I like the pain..sometimes, I like the feel of the pain and the way it drains me...and sometimes, I just take it cause he wants to do it. It all depends on what it is, and even what mood I am in when getting it. There are times I want to feel forced..(anal), that is pleasure. There is the time when I need to feel the actual pain and it releases the stress and a lot of feelings I have built up (caning). Then lastly, there is the pain I take only because he enjoys giving it to me (belt beatings). All of those can vary, of course..but each one is for my Master to some extent, (his pleasure) and for me (the pride in taking it, or enjoying it). Kasha

DeepWaters -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:14:26 PM)
hmm guess we could just chaulk it up to Im a sick twisted bastard [:D] fear is delicious and pain is divine...now just sign your soul on the dotted line. If she likes the act and is getting into it...it sort of takes the guts out of me being a sadist--raping the willing is well...kind of pointless...Im being used...not me using her...forcing the unwilling however--taking away her choices, with the tears sobbing, gagging, whimpers of pain and then the cuddling afterwords and telling her how much of good girl she was for being able to sacrifice herself and satisfy me...thats devotion to me, thats love...

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:15:43 PM)
kasha, how does your Master feel about your different approaches? can he tell the difference in how you're experiencing the pain? when you do it to please him do you get to sub space?

juliaoceania -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:17:46 PM)
I sometimes enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes do not enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes only preceive pain as pleasure and not as pain at all... depends on the mood.. so what does that make me? I also adore endorphin rushes, and tend to not experience pain after they rush into my head... all a part of that floaty dreamy giddy subspace place. Edited to add, I am not the type to "endure" for the sake of my Daddy, because that is not where he gets his domspace from.

akisha -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:19:42 PM)
I like the scening with or with out the pain. There is pain I crave and want, and there is pain that He inflicts and I accept as much as possible to please Him and then there are times were there is no pain and that's good too. Though I'm trying to figure out how to ask for pain when i feel i need it and He's not hurting me. Ya Ya I know, open communitcation, but I mean if your tongue freezes in your mouth when you want to say, "Please take me downstairs and beat the hell out of me, I had a bad day at the office" I'm trying to get over that lil hang up at the moment. [:D] There can be scenes that have nothing to do with pain but are still hard to do even though you crave them. Like akasha said the need to feel forced. That is something i crave at times as well, but that does not mean there has to be pain involved. There might be, but it may not be the ultimate goal of that session.

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:24:20 PM)
DW i think i understand your perspective. the loss of choice, i experience in different aspects of our life more strongly than with the scening. Master enjoys that a great deal. but we've also been experimenting with pushing past pleasure and into pain or with things that hurt from the outset. the only problem is that we have to go pretty far for that to happen. fortunately, no unhealable damage yet....

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:27:45 PM)
I've never endured pain to be a martyr or some show of devotion, I'm simply enduring because it's what they want me to endure. Trust me, if given the choice, I'd have taken the not-pain option every single time- screw devotion. I know I'm devoted, he knows I'm devoted and no show of pain endurance would do anything to change that. But I wasn't given the option (beyond the obvious "will be you owned by me or not"), and so I obeyed. As I so often say, I get off on everything about pain play EXCEPT the pain part. http://www.collarchat.com/m_525044/mpage_1/key_fluffy%252Csadist/tm.htm#525222 sadist http://www.collarchat.com/m_583606/mpage_1/key_masochists/tm.htm#583687 Extreme sensation play, what's hot about that for you? http://www.collarchat.com/m_204732/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#204762 why experience pain and what motivates a sub to enjoy it? http://www.collarchat.com/m_284469/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#284905 masochistic vs non masochistic http://www.collarchat.com/m_428681/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#428697 masochism http://www.collarchat.com/m_514097/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#514099 is it the pain or the act of submission? http://www.collarchat.com/m_99877/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#99877 ds vs s&m http://www.collarchat.com/m_319334/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#319334 question on masochism #1 http://www.collarchat.com/m_319343/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#319343 question on masochism #2 http://www.collarchat.com/m_475218/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#475218 masochism and submission, is there a conflict? http://www.collarchat.com/m_344784/mpage_1/key_masochist/tm.htm#344784 good pain/bad pain...blurred lines? http://www.collarchat.com/m_221596/mpage_1/key_masochist/tm.htm#221596 sensation slut

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:28:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I sometimes enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes do not enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes only preceive pain as pleasure and not as pain at all... depends on the mood.. so what does that make me? IMO a mildly masochistic submissive. But like you care :)

DeepWaters -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:30:21 PM)
Yes, I think you got it...its actually not so much the pain Im after its the control...I don't cum just because shes gagging from deepthroat...I cum because shes trying to bring her head up and Im (controlling) holding her head down... As someone who cares about my subs...Ive always been willing to take the belt to them hard or even carve on them...becuase of the hard day at school or work and I know they need a catharsis from the stress...I may be administering pain, but the why is becuase I care...still its a service performed for them...though I will admit I do get the occasional urge just to carve pretty designs in people and then sow them up..for no ones sake but my own.

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:30:29 PM)
kisha what is the difference between when you crave the pain and when you accept the pain? is it the type of scene (say whips as opposed to needles)? or is it just how you feel on that particular day? what would you say is the major difference in the way you react in the two types of scene?

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:38:32 PM)
LA; so you're saying that you like things about pain (before hand and afterwards) that please you enough to endure the pain? where is your head when the pain is actually happening? that's what i'm trying to understand. are you thinking about what's going to happen after? for me, i feel a very tangible power transfer during the moment that is intoxicating. do you feel it before and after but not during?

sklegmichael -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:40:13 PM)
Pain given or recieved when done with exqusite precision is more than pain

subsa -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:40:39 PM)
DW...yes, the Dom definitely performs a service for the sub. that's why i say that as much as submission is a gift, so is dominance.

ownedgirlie -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 1:49:01 PM)
I have a love/hate relationship with pain. When it is happening, all I want is for it to stop. When it stops, I want more. I don't even understand it myself, but such is the case. But in reality, it's not about what I want; it's about what he feels like doing to me. I endure it for him. I hate it when it is happening. Truly hate it. But I have no choice, and so I bear it. He does love that I will endure it. And quite honestly, he really doesn't put me through a lot, but I'm a wimp. He says I endure a lot more than I used to be able to, but I don't always see it. We've been talking about this recently, about why he does what he does, and why I respond as I do. It's been interesting.

onestandingstill -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 2:00:06 PM)
I am one who does not like pain. I am one who can play heavy for the Dom I serve as I do indeed like to be an avenue of his fulfillment, entertainment and pleasure. Most times what I do is the whole mind over matter theory where I blow out the pain and brethe in white light and focus on being calm and steady like a rock in my mind to deal with the stinging, burning, hurting types of sensation. I've been told by masochists just like if someone plays with your nipples and it makes your pussy wet they take the energy of the pain and force it into their grion in some same sort of methodology. It gives them a warm full tingle to the point they can orgasm from the pain. I tried that for a while, but just start screaming, whining, begging and get anxious if I don't use the mind over matter calm in the storm method. Maybe that a big difference in a pain player and not. The ability to translate extreme sensation into sensual. Me it just does not happen for me like that. Even though I don't like the hard pain it's funny because at times all I want is a severe spanking. That also makes no sense, but works well for me. suzanne

juliaoceania -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 2:05:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I sometimes enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes do not enjoy pain for its own sake, I sometimes only preceive pain as pleasure and not as pain at all... depends on the mood.. so what does that make me? IMO a mildly masochistic submissive. But like you care :) Hey, that's what Sinergy calls me! Ha Ha

Sweetlilsubintx -> RE: looking for another perspective on pain (12/27/2006 2:15:05 PM)
I haven't read through all the responses, but I will respond to your initial post! I am one that likes it despite the pain. I can endure great amounts of pain, but what I thrive on more than anything is being dominated. Dominating someone does NOT always involve pain, in my opinion! To be spanked or have pain inflicted upon me with NO reason or with no words of power being exchanged really does nothing for me...I would HATE it! Even if my Dom is inflicting pain just for His enjoyment (not punishment), I need for Him to tell me that I'll take the pain He has to give me because I am His...or ask me/tell me other things to remind me that He is in control, etc. This is my very brief answer! Sweet Sub

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