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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 3:01:08 PM   
SweetDommes


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ORIGINAL: Sissyslave71

Thats not the way I read it.


Then rather than being rude and telling us that we are full of shit for stating our experiences, perhaps you should say something more along the lines of 'hey, wait, not all of us are like that' ...

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 3:08:53 PM   
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Nah......thats okay.

Right now..I feel like I want to just go break something.

Enjoy the thread.

Not my territory..on the wrong turf.

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 3:37:27 PM   
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And now, back to our regularly scheduled thread ...

and I appologise for losing my temper.

And for the record, that is not actually a reply to the post above - it just shows up that way. My appology is to the thread starter and the others who actually contributed to the thread.

< Message edited by SweetDommes -- 2/24/2005 3:38:34 PM >

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 4:07:06 PM   
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S'cool Cheri

FUBAR as we call it.

lol ask me that definition if ya really want to.

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 4:15:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WulfMan

S'cool Cheri

FUBAR as we call it.

lol ask me that definition if ya really want to.



:-P I'm familiar with the term ...

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 7:38:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GddssBella
Being a sadist, I am heavy handed in my endeavors. When a man can persevere, allowing his mind to overcome the pain, it shows a strength of character that is attractive to me. Channeling it, absorbing it, returning the energy back to me. In return, I nuture his feelings, letting him know my pleasure with him.


These words... I could not have said it better myself.

I'm a heavy handed sadist as well and I agree it is so delightful to see them take it for me. Pure bliss.

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 7:46:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I think Lily and I would like to sign up as your co-authors...


You gals are on...I will start up an outline. *smile*

Taggard


Splendid!!

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 7:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett
As Maniac and others have said before me, that wonderful male scent, hot, mmmmm...there just isn't anything like it to get my imagination in gear.


No doubt!

And I just love it when B calls me Maniac :)

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 7:57:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onceburned
This has been a very nice thread with the dommes discussing something they personally enjoy. And I think they have been polite in saying that there is nothing wrong with femmed men - but that it is not their kink.

I have found it to be a refreshing, and intriguing, discussion. It has felt like a breath of fresh air. Please do not get hung up on one sentence. I think the conversation has been polite -- unlike the manner in which your comments were framed.

Remember, this is the 'Ask the Mistress' forum. You and I are here as guests. We should conduct ourselves accordingly.


chris, thank you.

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ORIGINAL: sissyslave71
Not my territory..on the wrong turf.


And I have pointed this out to you before sissyslave. I do not go on forced feminized threads to rant about my kinks and I would very much appreciate it if you gave me the same respect.

- LA

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 9:52:43 PM   
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I like to bring a man in touch with his true masculinity. Not some macho overcompensation but what it is to be a true gentleman, to take pride in manhood, in strength, etc

<and then there was this in another thread>

I personally have taken great pleasure in having a "straight" boy sodomised by a big gay leatherman <weg>.


Can we assume that sodomy is not part of the program to bring a man in touch with his masculinity? heh

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/24/2005 11:28:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: happypervert
<and then there was this in another thread>
I personally have taken great pleasure in having a "straight" boy sodomised by a big gay leatherman <weg>.


Can we assume that sodomy is not part of the program to bring a man in touch with his masculinity? heh
quote:



LMAO... Yup, I can go along with that assumption, sodomy is not about making a man more masculine, lol. M
P.S. I love your signature HappyPervert.


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RE: forced masculinity - 2/25/2005 2:02:48 AM   
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Original: LadyAngelika
I think quiet kitten had a good point when she wrote earlier on in this thread:


I agree that quiet kitten made some excellent points. Feminism was good at the time but seems to have gone too far the other way. We do indeed need some balance in this and I enjoy having My chair pulled out for Me and doors opened.


quote:

Original: LadyAngelika

I tend to get involved with people who have desires aligned with my own.


The only time I had a submissive who cross dressed was when he suited almost all My other needs. It seemed a shame to pass him by just because of the one fetish he had that I had no opinion on. I was much more focussed on his other abilities.

quote:

Original: LadyAngelika

but I want to make the point that I would not try and turn a boy that wants to be sissified and force him to be a man, unless it was negotiated before hand. I do respect people's kinks very much.


That was not the way I took Your statement. I had assumed that You meant only those submissives who did not want to be sissified. It must be difficult enough for them without a Lady trying to make them something they are not...unless of course they request it.
Gentle Lady


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RE: forced masculinity - 2/25/2005 4:30:59 AM   
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And I have pointed this out to you before sissyslave. I do not go on forced feminized threads to rant about my kinks and I would very much appreciate it if you gave me the same respect.

- LA


LA, I have your back on this my friend. I'm frequently dismayed when the 'submissives' argue with us and get down right snotty and rude.

Perhaps, that is why they have so much time to spend on boards like this...rather than a Mistress of their own.

Lily

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/25/2005 4:33:14 AM   
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HappyPervert wrote:
quote:

Can we assume that sodomy is not part of the program to bring a man in touch with his masculinity? heh


My pervy friend, you are kidding right?

A man recieving anal sex has everything to do with the prostate gland. I've rarely met a man who's prostate gland wasn't ultra sensitive and when stimulated, and didn't give him the orgasm of his life.

If you know what you are doing...it's very masculine.

Editorial Note: I didn't read the original until after I read HP's response, so the above comments were exclusively regarding heterosexual sodomy of a man.

Lily

< Message edited by ProtagonistLily -- 2/25/2005 4:36:33 AM >


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RE: Emasculated pink men - 2/25/2005 6:35:31 AM   
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The original post here has been pulled by sissy maid lola as it apparently contained "vicious, unfounded attacks" on, and "baseless accusations" against, Lady Angelika. Apparently nobody else could see the insults until She determined that they were there. So they must have been there all along. Just like the WMD have always been there ... it's simply that we just can't see them.


< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 2/28/2005 1:32:53 AM >

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RE: Emasculated pink men - 2/25/2005 6:48:11 AM   
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most American males are no longer prepared to be just basically chivalrous, let alone defend women and children against all kinds of advancing global tyranny.


No Offense just an observation, all friends of mine are incredibly protective and chivalrous. Perhaps because I mainly hang out with military types, but to make the statment "most" is kinda unjust if you ask me. Just my opinion. I may be wrong but hey,

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RE: Emasculated pink men - 2/25/2005 6:56:06 AM   
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Maybe what drives the Islamic fundamentalist males to fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up in trucks and discotheques is the idea that dying in this way is much more honorable than sticking around in order to be transformed, in their turn, to fit the grand design of the western Feminists. They have seen the future of the world male and they don't like it !


LMAO!

sissy maid lola, you have quite a sense of humor. I am not sure what prompted the whole essay against 'feminism' (which I assume is tongue in cheek) but read with a wink it does give a chuckle.


Tsk, tsk... what has the world come to when masculine males need to be defended by a sissy?

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/25/2005 7:39:41 AM   
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I couldn't agree more with Mantis, it is somewhat surprising to me that the sterotypical male sub is seen (especially by Doms and fem subs) as weak, insecure, wimps.

In fact many of us there are type A, alpha males, educated, intelligent, masculine, competitive, finacially secure confident Gentlemen who are in charge so much of the time that being submissives is a release if only temporarily from much of the control we have. Isn't that the dynamic of the power exchange?

Joseph

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RE: forced masculinity - 2/25/2005 7:42:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GddssBella

G'morning fellow freaks & deviants

Personally, in the main, I agree w/ Angelika. I don't know that I'd describe masculinity as a fetish, but it certainly is my preference when dealing with male subs. C/d's, t/v's, sissies, adult babies, etc. have no appeal to me. Males in these roles generally just want to either prance around & look cute, being totally useless or else they wish to be taken care of. Blech.

Men however, have a distinct appeal. Their very virility, strength, dignity being bent low in surrender to me is like a drug. Once savored, addiction has set in. A man of chivalry, wit, & charm so secure in himself that submission to me is a natural progression of his affections.

I do enjoy having a man be a domestic. I feel the traditional role reversal strengthens the power dynamic. The fact that my apartment is cleaned is simply a bonus. Physical manifestation of a woman's powers during corporal play re-enforces her dominion over men. Being a sadist, I am heavy handed in my endeavors. When a man can persevere, allowing his mind to overcome the pain, it shows a strength of character that is attractive to me. Channeling it, absorbing it, returning the energy back to me. In return, I nuture his feelings, letting him know my pleasure with him.

I've found that truly submissive individuals seek out the happiness of their dominant. It's integral to their own. When they are the vessel of such happiness, it multiplies their own. Submission, by definition, denotes humility. Hence why I don't understand how the needy, me-me mentality comes into being. It is indicative of a bottom, certainly not a submissive.

*hops off her lil pulpit & to all* Stay safe, play nice, share your toys with others....






Bella



Brava Bella,

Well said indeed!

Joseph

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RE: Emasculated pink men - 2/25/2005 8:20:18 AM   
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quote:

sissy maid lola, you have quite a sense of humor.


Hi, onceburned,

Thanks for the nice compliments. If you like the humor and you have a couple of days to spare <giggles> you may want to check out sissy's journal over on the other side (cue the Twilight Zone theme music) ...

quote:

Tsk, tsk... what has the world come to when masculine males need to be defended by a sissy?

Ooops, is my alpha male personality showing beneath my slip again ?

Curtsies,

sissy maid lola





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