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It is purely a linguistic, semantic or logical point ... and sissy is now done with it.

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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola

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Isn't it interesting how people who claim to have such an interest in chastity are always searching for some 'medical' reasons to justify being released?

And isn't it interesting how you NEVER make a positive contribution to anyone's thread, stef, but merely post your one-line passive-aggressive observations wherever you read.

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what exactly turns Her on about the concept of controlling the erections and releases of the male submissive(s) in Her life.

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So many Dominant Females claim that They like Their sub males manly (rather than feminized) ... yet how manly is a totally meek and docile male ? Does body hair and clothes constitute real masculinity in Their mind, or male attitude ? Personally, sissy would have thought an independently-minded but sometimes unruly maid (that is responsive to punishments such as spankings, etc.) would be more of a control challenge than a castrated doormat for such Dommes. Surely, the more power that a male has to have taken away from him in a TPE D/s relationship, the more of a turn-on it is for the Domme taking that power from him. But, hey, what does sissy know about these things ?

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If it's too OT to help me out in here, would you please put a note in my CM mailbox to help me understand this? <snip> Sissy, i hope you don't mind my barging into your thread like this.

Hi cynthiamarie,

Thanks for making your post, hun, and you didn't barge into the thread. Ooooh, maybe that should be "Your post" since sissy is now addressing a budding Domme! <giggles>. WRT your questions sissy will PM you on the other side as an initial go-around. sissy Just wanted to respond to your post here first so that it was acknowledged and not left hanging out there ... and he may come back and edit this post further once we've exchanged PMs.

Curtsies,

sissy maid lola




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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to cynthiamarie)

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We have beaten the dead horse til our arms are tired.

Be very careful when you talk about beating a dead horse on this site, chris. Although flogging and beating are valid kinks, sissy suspects that overt references to bestiality and necrophilia violate the TOS !

As you say, we've pretty well flogged the JAMA study to death, but if you come across any other information on this topic that adds to what we've already discussed please feel free to post it here. sissy Only found your post on the possible dangers of Peyronie's disease for those that regularly confine their genitals today (he was otherwise preoccupied with alternative areas of the boards at the time that you originally shared it) and it's not really getting the attention it deserves where it was posted. sissy Feels an obligation to temper any of the chastity and castration fantasy that has posted on this thread with at least some kind of reality check WRT the health dangers involved for those reading stuff here ... hence his motivation for making his A Health Warning post.

The possible danger of Peyronie's disease - no matter how remote - is something that sissy was totally unaware of until he read your post on that topic. So sissy thanks you for sharing that. Accordingly, sissy feels he also ought to introduce that topic on this thread so that there is also some reality balance to offset the fantasy - in the same way that he felt he had to mention the possible correlations between ejaculation frequency and prostate cancer - but he doesn't want to steal your thunder. Perhaps you would care to cross-post what you know on this condition here, and if you feel it merits further debate, perhaps we can also have that discussion here, too.

One of the other "questions" posed to the "experts" in the article to which you posted the URL seemed a little contrived (which is the way sissy has always felt about "Dear Abby" Q&A type columns) and tongue-in-cheek, so maybe the reasons that sissy has not heard about this condition before now is that it was a contrived topic for that Q&A article. If it is a possible serious risk, the least sissy would like to do WRT this condition is modify the Submissive Health Maintenance sections of his three posted chastity options to warn about the possible dangers of this condition. But he would like to understand the condition better first, and just as our discussion on the JAMA study (even though it was linguistically based rather than focused more on the medical side of things) nevertheless resulted in a better understanding of the issue all round, some discussion on Peyronie's condition may achieve similar effect.

One of the things that sissy feels needs emphasizing here is that no one is researching any of this stuff from the BDSM perspective. As Dr. Pavlovich was paraphrased in your Peyronie's condition article: "... no studies have been done on the short- or long-term effects of locking your cock up in an unyielding steel tube, which explains why you found so little about it on the Web." In other words, the BDSM community is considered too small (and possibly too weird and perverted!) to merit research for its own sake ... the community benefits only if these correlations are established by alternative research focus. Similarly, WRT to the topic of studying the possible correlations between male ejaculation frequency and prostate cancer, release of the seminal fluid by means of anal prostate "milkings" was NOT one of the methods of ejaculation investigated (and the fact that the JAMA study used the term "ejaculation" to cover nocturnal emissions was also somewhat misleading for those reading the study findings out of context and were therefore not familiar with the study's definition of terms).

As sissy has also pointed out previously, no one has studied the effect of someone having no orgasmic release for months on end. There was a classification (group A) in the JAMA study for those males having between 0 and 3 ejaculations a month (on average). Now someone filling in the questionnaires in that study that was playing around with enforced chastity and therefore experiencing zero "ejaculations" in back to back months, would just show up as a statistic in group A. But sissy suspects that it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that such a person(s) participated in the study, and that most of the instances of reported "0-3 ejaculations / month" would either have been in the "1-3" range or, if zero in any given month, this person would then not fall into the zero classification in the next month. Which means that there is NO real data gathered by even the JAMA study on males that go, say, four to six consecutive months without a single orgasmic or nocturnal release, as anybody following sissy's options (b) or (c) would (or could).

Having a very low ejaculation rate (say an average of one ejaculation / month) for the duration of the study (and thereby showing up in group A) is NOT at all the same as having a zero ejaculation frequency for six months, and then possibly six releases in the next "furlough" period, and thereby still maintaining an average of one ejaculation / month. In fact, "furlough" periods are not even addressed by sissy's chastity option profiles. In other words, there is little in the JAMA study that can be applied to anyone indulging in long term chastity as defined by sissy's profiles for options (b) and (c), and they are in completely uncharted territory ... again, one of the reasons that caused sissy to make his A Health Warning post.

Anyway, sissy knows that others at CollarMe have found the information on prostate cancer risk as per the JAMA study report discussion useful because he has received PMs informing him of such. sissy Too had to become more informed on this topic - from the perspective of being able to determine what is simply urban legend versus what can be backed up by medical research - and so he too thanks you for introducing this topic here.

Best regards,

sissy maid lola




< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 4/4/2005 10:12:36 PM >

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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to onceburned)

quote:

One of the things that sissy feels needs emphasizing here is that no one is researching any of this stuff from the BDSM perspective

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Most of the "questions" posed to the "experts" in the article to which you posted the URL did seem a little contrived (which is the way sissy has always felt about "Dear Abby" Q&A type columns) and tongue-in-cheek, so maybe the reasons that sissy has not heard about this condition before now is that it was a contrived topic for that Q&A article

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Although I cannot find the URL on this page, I am sure you are talking about Dan Savage (Savage Love) as the topic this week was Peyronie's condition ...

Hi Gordon,

Yes, chris posted a link to the March 28 issue of Savage Love in a different forum which featured the Q&A on Peyronie's disease as the first of four Q&As on the web page (if there were other web pages beyond the main one sissy never read them). Quite frankly, sissy wasn't that impressed with the quality of either the questions or the answers given. The questions appeared like they could have been formulated by any troll starting a new thread on this site, and the answers were a little thin on detail. Take the Peyronie's disease Q&A ... all sissy was able to learn from it was that the condition is caused by a buildup of scar tissue in your penis that can cause it to curve to one side, making erections painful and, in some cases, impossible. There's no effective treatment for Peyronie's. Radiation therapy can decrease the amount of scar tissue, but unfortunately, it damages other tissues; surgery to cut out the scar tissue can lead to impotence. Oh yes, and the leading theory WRT the cause of this disease is trauma to a semi-erect penis.

That was all padded out to four paragraphs with banter. No references for sources or further reading were given, which was a little frustrating, yet probably par for the course when it comes to Q&A columns. But it wasn't the Peyronie's disease Q&A that sissy was calling a little contrived. In particular, it was the second question which was from a guy whose girlfriend's lesbian aunt had given a hand job to his girlfriend's grandfather (the aunt's own father) whom she was taking care of. sissy Has seen a couple of variants of the supposed dilemma behind such an action posted as questions in the past on Q&A forums, and so it was this one that raised the question of its true authenticity in sissy's mind. The remaining two Q&A were pretty tame, which probably weighs more to their authenticity than not - if one is going to make the questions up then why not make them a little sensational ?

So sissy shouldn't have said "most" in his post when only one of the Q&As caught his attention that way. If nothing else thanks for posting Your plug here so that sissy can now go fix that. Take care.

sissy maid lola




< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 5/2/2005 11:07:24 AM >

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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to GordonFreeman)

quote:

Interesting? Perhaps. Especially if it were true.

Having read many of your interractions elsewhere on other threads, not just this one, stef, sissy pretty much stands by the truth of what he posted. However, in the spirit of Douglas Adams, sissy is prepared to update his previously posted opinion of you as follows:

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And isn't it interesting how you HARDLY EVER make a positive contribution to anyone's thread, stef, but instead merely post your one-line passive-aggressive observations wherever you read.

Now it's true ....

sissy maid lola




< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 4/9/2005 7:39:27 AM >

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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to stef)

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Having been subjected to your incessant blathering on whatever flits into your vapid little mind, I'm prepared to tell you that you're still nothing more than a simpering pink nitwit.

My dear stef,

You are not subjected to anything ... if you don't like sissy's opinions on this thread then don't read it, and certainly don't post to it. It is that simple.

You have posted seven times to this thread and have yet to contribute anything positive or on topic here. If there ever was any debate going on in your case, certainly by stooping to ad hominem attacks, you just lost it. sissy Merely made the comment in passing that your posts are frequently passive-aggressive one or two line observations. Anyone reading a sizeable portion of your posts on these boards can see that is a true statement. They only have to read all your posts on this thread to see the truth in that statement. sissy Isn't passing judgement on you ... there are presumably some people that hold your kind of passive-aggressiveness to be a good thing.

But the overall body of your posts serves as proof of that statement. You, OTOH, will find it extremely difficult to convince anyone on these boards that sissy has a "vapid little mind." You may disagree with sissy - and you frequently go out of your way to do so - but that doesn't mean that there is any truth in that statement whatsoever. For someone that stands for nothing, and that cannot put more than two sentences together at a time, to have the audacity to call anyone else a "nitwit" is quite laughable. The term "pink" sissy accepts since his font is that color. As for the term "simpering" ... have you looked in the mirror recently, stef ? That term would appear to apply more to you than to sissy.

There really is a lot more to life than explaining to people that "dominate" isn't an adjective or a noun ... anyone you have to explain that to isn't actually worth your time nor energy. And spending all your time on these boards stalking dani so that you can pounce on anything he might say - which is what brought you to this thread in the first place - makes you one very small, warped person in most people's minds. Get a passion for something more worthwhile in your life, stef, than trying to elevate your own status by repeatedly putting others down.

sissy maid lola




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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to stef)

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ORIGINAL: Sissyslave71
I think castration is a little extreme. Unless you want a gender change.

ORIGINAL: sfgrrl
Castration wouldn't change your gender.

ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
Hi, sfgrrl, that's a good point but it is NOT what sissyslave said now, is it ? What he wrote was that castration was "a little extreme ... unless you want a gender change." He didn't claim that castration CAUSED gender change ...

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ORIGINAL: sfgrrl
Your mini-treatise on sissyhood notwithstanding, you're missing the point. Gender doesn't change, no matter what is done to the body and no matter what the reason for said physical alteration is.

ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
No one is missing the point here because no one on this thread has claimed that castration changes gender.

ORIGINAL: sfgrrl
Again, you miss the point.

ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
How can sissy possibly miss the point of his own thread ?

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ORIGINAL: sfgrrl
I'm not sure how that's even remotely relevant, since I was never referring to the thread at large, but only to my reply to sissyslave71. The topic of the thread, and polls in general, really don't interest me all that much. <snip> I never had any doubt what this thread was about.

ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
So how did you vote, stef ?

ORIGINAL: sfgrrl
I didn't.

So let's see now, stef. You admit that you are NOT interested in polls, NOR were you interested in the topic of this thread, and that you didn't vote in this poll. What that all translates to is that your only pathetic purpose for your initial OT post on this thread was to put words into dani's mouth that he never said in order that you could then disagree with them and make fun of him. That's pretty sad, stef. Please stop flaming this thread. You have made 8 posts here and none of them have been on topic nor contributed anything positive. Your last two posts were just pointless name calling.

Once again sissy is going to request that you refrain from posting on this thread. Besides, you have no reason to post here any more. Your continual hounding of dani is presumably one of the reasons he has now quit the boards. You should be very proud of yourself over that, stef! It must make you feel very good that all your negative effort hasn't been wasted. Way to go. Who's next on your shit list, stefie ?

sissy maid lola




< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 4/14/2005 6:25:12 AM >

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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to stef)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

Hey Ms Stef and Lola,
This back and forth negativity is such a waste of energy...
Couldn't we start playing nice now, please? M

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The possible danger of Peyronie's disease - no matter how remote - is something that sissy was totally unaware of until he read your post on that topic.

Boney Maroney

I got a Girl name of Boney Maroney
She's as skinny as a stick of macaroni
Oughta see Her rock'n'roll with Her blue jeans on
She's not very fat, just skin and bo-o-one

But I love Her, She loves me
Oh how happy now we can be
Makin' love underneath the apple tree

Well I beat my meat like it owes me money
There's now a cock cage on my unruly bunny
I wanna get married on a night in June
And rock and roll
By the light of the silvery moo-oo-oon

'Cause I want Her, She taunts me
Oh how happy now I could be
Makin' love when released from chastity

Woh-oh right
Oh!
Oh yeah
Ooh!
Wooh - hah

Now I've got the curse of old Frankie Peyronie *
I cannot get it up for my Boney Maroney
It bends to the left, never to the right
Playing with my Boney keeps me in pain all night

'Cause I want Her, She taunts me
Oh how happy now I could be
Makin' love when released from chastity

According to the quack, my dick's full of plaque
I'm never ever gonna be the same in the sack
So I kneel and pray on my rosary beads
That I might still 'meat' some of my Boney's needs

'Cause I want Her, She taunts me
Oh how happy now I could be
Makin' love when released from chastity

Woh-oh right
Oh!
Oh yeah
Ooh!
Wooh - hah

She's a real sexy Domme, She's my one and only
She's a real face slapper, She's my Boney Maroney
Everybody smirks when my Lady milks me
And everyone agrees it's quite something to see

'Cause I want Her, She taunts me
Oh how happy now I could be
Makin' love when released from chastity

She's my one and only, She's my soul's desire
She waxes my thighs and sets my heart on fire
Everybody turns when my Lady goes by-y
Her swats really sting and
They always make me cry-eye-eye

'Cause I want Her, She taunts me
Oh how happy now I could be
Makin' love when released from chastity


* Peyronie's disease was first described in 1704. It is named for Francois de la Peyronie, who, in 1743, described a patient who had "rosary beads of scar tissue to cause an upward curvature of the penis during erection."


The foregoing was adapted from the original ShaNaNa song lyrics and is the copyright ©2005 of Lola Croft.

sissy maid lola




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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to sissymaidlola)

quote:

Can I Beg for Peace Here!

Ohhh, WOW, Madame M, that's sooooo hot! It's not often that sissy gets to see a Mistress beg so he would absolutely adore to see You on Your knees in front of lola pathetically pleading Your case, Madame! Oh boy, this is such a turn on for sissy <giggles> ... Now get on Your knees, bitch, and start begging! LMAO

sissy maid lola




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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to BlkTallFullfig)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola

quote:

Can I Beg for Peace Here!

Ohhh, WOW, Madame M, that's sooooo hot! It's not often that sissy gets to see a Mistress beg so he would absolutely adore to see You on Your knees in front of lola pathetically pleading Your case, Madame! Oh boy, this is such a turn on for sissy <giggles> ... Now get on Your knees, bitch, and start begging! LMAO

sissy maid lola

Hey Sissy,
Is this reverse psychology, your wanting me to tell you "Get on your knees Byotch?!"
I think you're trying to top me from the bottom; I do apreciate your doing it in French though.
Am glad to have given you a rise... Did it happen at work? Could your co workers see it? LMAO, M



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""Touching was, and still is, and will always be, the true revolution" Nikki Giovanni

(in reply to sissymaidlola)

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Is this reverse psychology, your wanting me to tell you "Get on your knees Byotch?!"

Ooooh, now You have sissy's attention, Madame. It really presses sissy's buttons when You insult him in Transylvanian!

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I think you're trying to top me from the bottom; I do apreciate your doing it in French though.

sissy Top from the bottom ... what, moi ? Ce qui prochain, Madame ? Cependant, il est très intéressant que vous écriviez maintenant dans le rose!

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola




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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to BlkTallFullfig)

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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
sissy Top from the bottom ... what, moi ? Ce qui prochain, Madame ? Cependant, il est très intéressant que vous écriviez maintenant dans le rose!
sissy maid lola