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RE: venting - 2/4/2007 7:39:51 PM

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I put a pill down my dogs throat an rubbed an then one time he hacked it up when I wasn't looking, now I put it in a small treat lol.

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close her mouth and gently stroke her neck

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RE: venting - 2/4/2007 7:45:35 PM

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I only have one dog now, but I had two. My Camey died in my arms in September. She was two weeks shy of her 12th birthday. Thunder is 10 and acts like he's two.

Both of them were/are my children. I never had human kids, so I did my Mom nurturing with them. Truth is, even if I had kids, my dogs would just be another one of them, our bond is that strong.

They are Akitas, a very loyal, primitive, dominant breed of dog. Not for the average dog owner, the faint of heart or inexperienced dog person.

I love 'em with all of my heart and when Camey died, part of me went with her. I have never grieved for a human loss that deeply. The only thing that got me through her passing was Thunder.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 3:26:25 AM

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er mouth and gently stroke her neck

I was actually suggesting this for the Cat as if has always worked for me.
For the dog I just stick the pill in a tiny bit of peanutbutter

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 5:14:28 AM

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They are Akitas, a very loyal, primitive, dominant breed of dog. Not for the average dog owner, the faint of heart or inexperienced dog person.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/cajunthunder/Christmas1997.jpg

Thunder is on the left and Camey on the right.

Is it my imagination.. or does Santa look terrified? :)

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 5:54:37 AM

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They are Akitas, a very loyal, primitive, dominant breed of dog. Not for the average dog owner, the faint of heart or inexperienced dog person.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/cajunthunder/Christmas1997.jpg

Thunder is on the left and Camey on the right.

Is it my imagination.. or does Santa look terrified? :)

Ahahahahahaha well he was holding Thunder's leash. I put Camey in a down stay as she was reliably trained (well, as reliable as an Akita can be trained

) but Thunder was only a year old and not so reliable. I told him to sit and stay, but when Mom walked away to stand beside the photographer, Thunder started getting anxious. Santa just knew he was gonna get yanked outta his chair and drug across the floor.

So yea, he was a wee bit nervous but not because of aggression (they aren't people aggressive), but because he was holding onto an anxious overgrown puppy!

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 6:21:01 AM

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Some BIG dogs....... lol

i feel for you with your dog and i completely understand. i had a golden when i was a kid who was literally my world. The only place i wouldnt go with out her was school. ::sigh:: She died literally on her 4th birthday, 2 miles from home on a high way tracking me. i had hopped a plane to hawaii. It me pretty hard and i havent been the same since. i went abit nuts and after laying in bed all day, i'd convince myself that if i JUST called her, she'd come. Because she always came when i called. Dont think i'll ever love a dog that much. She was a good damn dog. Took me about 5 years before i could speak of what happened with out bawling.

So, i know what you mean and i really feel for you. Best wishes and tons of hugs.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 6:54:41 AM

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I will not go into the whole animal abuse discussion, that has been done to death by now.
However, you seem to be very agressive and full of anger lately. Cudos for you for keeping yourself so well in check as you wrote, but that is honestly only a temporary fix.
It seems to eat away at you, and maybe you should consider getting help, in what form ever.
Running around as an boiling pot of anger is not healthy for you, not healthy for your wee one, and not good for the baby either.

Take care of you.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 8:05:23 AM

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LOL - nah - i've just been stressed out lately.

i'm trying to ignorrrrrrrreeeeeeee it. i've three major problems. One has to do with my relationship, the other the health of my baby, and the other my health and whether i'll end up losing my uterus. Aside from that, i've a class i CANT seem to FIGURE OUT and its drivin me nuts. i NEED the A, bah. Erm, i'm only pulling a B average in another class, which is frustrating me. On top of that i've an influx of bugs. i HATE bugs. On top of that, i agreed to follow my families advice and focus myself on school (ie not working), trying to pull more classes then i should (to get through fast) and i'm absolutetly BROKE and then i got PREGNANT. (totally the wrong time in life for that) Then there is school after the baby is born. Then there is living together/apart with Master. It seems impossible that we'll be able to live together, but he's pushing it and i dont even know what i want. Plus, he wants to get married - i want to wait about 3 years and he's in the process of getting an engagement ring. On TOP of that - i havent a clue about what to do, whats the right thing to do, what i should do. But i just keep telling myself "in 2 years, it'll all work out". Then there is normal life to deal with.

in 2 years (which looking at school classes might be more like 3) i'll be sitting in London, in a pretty tight apartment, making 70 Grand a year, living near my father and finally out of the US. AND i've a really good friend in England i never get to see.... Alot better then i'll do struggling in one of the jobs around here.

i'm just trying to keep my faith in God
my chin up
and my eyes looking towards the future

but sometimes stress gets to me.

Have ya never had stress?

hmmm and i did i say i finally got my court problems taken care of? Well mostly - but for the most part - those things are okay. Sorta - they want me to do community service and now i have to find out if i can actually do it, because of a complication i'm having. What a big pain in my ass and its ALL retarded and Master completely disagree's with me copping to a stupid charge, and i absolutetly refuse to fight the system or fight for my innocence. Who cares if i didnt do shit, especially not the courts. My word against a cop's word? Been there done that! Did 6 months, not happening again.

i dont need "help" What i need is for time to pass by so everything works out and ONE way or another, chit is going to work out. Its just stressful trying to foresee possible pitfalls and steer to avoid them, especially if you dont know if they will happen and especially if you seem to be moving towards possible pitfalls and to stop the progression just makes MORE pitfalls. Patience is the key!

BUT its all gonna work out. In 4 or so months, i'll have a happy healthy little boy (and i better!) and in 2 or so years, i'll have a rockin job over in London with the possiblity of going anywhere in the world after that.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 4:09:32 PM

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The only sympathy I have here is for the cat!
Too bad she didn't get out the door and run away.

Missy.

i tried to ignore you, but i cant. My schools linux server is pissing me off. We go a long way back on "cats" and i remember the last time you said anything to me about cats - it was pretty damn harsh. Merely because we have opposing views on whether to keep cats indoor/outdoors. You remember, it was when i lost a cat and was really really upset about it and all you wanted to do was slam me for my choice of letting it go outdoors.

Too bad YOU cant grow up abit and learn that your way isnt the right way and we all have our own "right way". Too bad you cant learn to be less judgemental and step off your high horse for a moment. Too bad you have to be a know it all.

Its unfortunate i already know your feelings on the subject with me and my cats. i guess you also feel for the stray cats that i try and rescue when i have time since they are "outdoor" kitties.

She did get out the door = ) She just came back.

Yes I do have my personal views on letting cats outside and may have "harsh" things to say when cats are injured, killed, or "missing" because their owners were careless and just don't get it.
To me it's like parents who take a nap and their 3 year old get's up wonders outside and drowns in the family pool...no high lock on the door, no barrior to the pool, should he/she have been napping when a lone in the house with a 3 year old? Yet, they plead for your sympathy because they're hurting...I think they should be charged with involantary manslater, though they rarely are. And if I am feeling pissy about it, I have I right to speak my mind. I think some people should just not be parents and some people should just not be pet owners because they just aren't responsible enough, not even responsible enough to take care of themselves or take simple precautionary measures, to ensure their child's or pet's safety.

You tell me to grow up, yet I am not the one who came running to CM to vent over the drama I just went through with my cat(which in itself, I find really odd behavior) stating ;

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(calling her a bitch...)"i lost my temper, grabbed her by the back of her neck, slammed her head back and then slammed the pill down her thoat. She's damn lucky I didn't kick her in the ass as she took off running. For some reason I would like to go around insulting everyone i come in contact with and bashing their heads in. Bashing their heads in=coming down so hard-you cave in the back of their skull in sending skull fragments into their brain."

You go on to ask us how it might look and that all the blood would piss you off even further.

I Do Not claim to know it all and know I Don't know it all, but I feel very safe in saying I think you need some Psychiatric help or anger managment therapy or something.

Your animals shouldn't suffer from your inability to care for them correctly.
And you expected us to all be understanding and supportive?
By the way...how did they all get tape worms???

Huggz, Missy.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 4:21:24 PM

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Oh, and anyone that thought the described handling of the cat was too much.........I suggest you avoid ever seeing what goes on behind the scenes at a vet's office.

What you see when you are there and the reality, two vastly different things.

I have 4 cats and a dog. Have had animals all my 47 years. I can give pills to all of them and clip all their nails with-out a single problem.

There are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes at a vet's office, just as it does when humans have surgery or whatever, but that dosen't(I believe) include intentional infliction of pain or the "bashing in of heads".

I think it has to do a lot with trust, along with educating yourself how best to accomplish the task at hand, can be as simple as asking your vet to go step by step for you. I also believe cat's can sense when you don't like them thus trust is broken very quickly.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 4:46:25 PM

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What gorgeous looking Akita's!

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 6:39:58 PM

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i didnt bash her head. Sheesh. Get over it.

It wasnt the scratches, it was when she bit down hard enough to draw blood. I was miffed about it. No damage was sustained to the cat. She's perfectly happy and healthy and trusts me which was evident when she decided to sleep on my chest last night. As most of my animals prefer me for their sleeping. Course it gets bit crowed as i've only a queen sized bed and the dog likes the foot of it.. my Snow likes my legs, Socks is always trying to sleep on my stomach (and doesnt EVER listen when i try and place her in a better spot) and Nadia likes to come sit on my chest and purr at me. NEVER look a cat in the eyes. LOL Had a cat once that ever time i looked her in the eyes she'd reach out and swipe my face. Actually out of all of them, she is the best sleeping companion.

They got tape worms because for some reason we had super mutant fleas. That Advantage flea stuff on their necks wouldnt fix, that all sorts of herbal flea killing products wouldnt fix, that steam cleaning my carpets (washing anything the eggs could be in) wouldnt fix, and some advantage flea spray (for the dog) wouldnt fix, giving the dog a flea bath wouldnt fix. I gave my Dnow a flea bath, but there was NO way in hell i was giving my female cats a bath. I escaped with minimal damage with Snow (few scratches) and trying to give Socks a bath would of been tough and giving Nadia a bath - she'd of killed me. Oh and we have pest control that does the yard and we had home chemicals to spray the house with. NOTHING worked.

So i had a major influx of fleas. Eventually i spoke to the vet, he gave us a pill. The Pill plus steam cleaning the carpets again and putting borax stuff down has seemed to help ALOT. BUT in the process of all this combating the fleas over months - the girls inadvertently ate a flea? Least its what the vet says. Treated the other two anyways.

Crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzy. In ALL of my life i've never had a flea problem, none of my animals have ever gotten tape worm (or any worms), and i have never had pinworms. Fates funny joke on me! Course i've brought stray anmals/pound kitties home and they had worms, which was fixed easily by a visit to the vet.

They do also get a liquid for like regular worms like twice a year because they do go outside in the garden and stuff. You really shouldnt worry about them. They stay very close to home and i know where they are 98% of the time. They're either laying in the driveway, outside when we are outside playing, racing me to the garden, lounging in the back yard when i'm out working in it, hounding me for treats, or sleeping. All of them are fixed, have their shots.

They're okay really. I just had a bad night. My bad. I dont usually get such violent thoughts and the last time i had them i was on bi polar meds and i was planning out the demise of the human race. Had something to do with alligators, the Nile and people lining up........ Relax or think what you will.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 6:47:57 PM

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For all you animals lovers - i've a quandry for you to decide.

What would you do if you were in China and as you were walking around a market you saw a resturant that had a cat in a cage sitting out front, basically advertising what was on the menu?

I've been in the quandry, living in the New Territories over in China/HK. There few options. Figure out how to rescue the cat, rescue the cat and end in jail for theft, or leave the cat.

i personally stood there staring at the cat and decided i could not rescue it with out going to jail. Either that or i'd be mobbed. So i had to leave it to its fate.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 7:41:15 PM

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Beautiful Akita's, BRNaughty. Possibly my favorite breed. Mine is from an Akita mother, with many of the traits, but looks like his daddy.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 7:43:25 PM

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What would you do if you were in China and as you were walking around a market you saw a resturant that had a cat in a cage sitting out front, basically advertising what was on the menu?

Order the cat to go.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 7:51:41 PM

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For all you animals lovers - i've a quandry for you to decide.

What would you do if you were in China and as you were walking around a market you saw a resturant that had a cat in a cage sitting out front, basically advertising what was on the menu?

      As a dear friend is fond of saying, "You'll never go hungry if you are willing to lie to an old lady about giving it a good home."

    How would it feel to be in a culture where turkeys are kept as pets, on Thanksgiving?

      And you always could have bought the cat...

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 7:52:22 PM

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Sub4hire - they werent taking pinworm pills........... they were taking tape worm pills........ because two of my females had tapeworms.

The tapeworm attaches itself to the top of the intestinal tract and begins to eat and elongate. It secretes a poison which prevents the attachment of any other tapeworm.

There is no way anything can have more than one tapeworm.

But since it is a segmented worm that can grow many feet long, one is enough.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 8:36:41 PM

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i bought the next cat i ran across.... a flea ridden kitten in a meat market. Cost me about everything i had on me which was 300 HKD.

Good to know they cant have more then just one tape worm. Though i do techically say "tapeworms" because with out the S the word seems incomplete. Although we did have "tapeworms" as two of the cats had em. = )

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 8:39:52 PM

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They are Akitas, a very loyal, primitive, dominant breed of dog. Not for the average dog owner, the faint of heart or inexperienced dog person.

The Akita breed was originally bred to protect Buddhist temples.

They needed a breed that would be extremely easygoing with a killer instinct when it was time to kill.

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RE: venting - 2/5/2007 11:50:44 PM

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Sorry, I was not trying to be mean.
With getting help, I did not mean necessarily "professional" help, as in medical help.
Maybe a babysitter for a day and doing something to relax and let go would be a help.
I am sorry that your life is such a demanding and stressfull one right now, and I hope you and your baby will get out of it all right.

And yes, I do know about stress. I have 3 male unmentionables, all still very young, am getting divorced and studying at the university.

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