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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/18/2007 8:01:48 PM

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Just this morning on PBS there was a documentary about women in remote parts of Afghanistan and what they had in the way of hospitals.
Some beaten bloody as they fought for their own life and the life of the unborn child they carried after their husbands whipped them to the point of near death.
I'm sure some part inside of them wished they could be anywhere BUT the life they were in. I'm sure some wished that they *would* die so they wouldn't have to carry on with this life and the way it was.
There's nothing romantic about that. There's nothing wonderful about living like that. There's nothing so fantastic about living with a man that has so little regard for your life or that of the child you may be carrying.
I wonder how those that fantasize about that life would really feel if it were them lying in a pool of their own blood clinging to life.
No man has that right.
IMHO

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/18/2007 8:19:14 PM

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soooo...does anyone have anymore information about the case? have there been any interviews or are they keeping the entire thing hush hush?

(not to be snippy with anyone, but the topic is bad enough without forum members critisizing and arguing about other forum members' personal opinions)

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/19/2007 6:08:44 AM

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Those guys are sick fuckers for sure.

But let's recognize the distinction between bdsm as a life-style choice and primal societies (theirs) where they are not socially developed. They are not practicing bdsm, they are being torutured in a hopeless dead-end environment. Their "laws" endenture women, shame their own families if they leave (or the marriage fails), and they can be killed...many in fact opt out via suicide.

Conclusion: keep killing those demented Islamic facists as fast as we can (ps- not all are sick any more than all Christians are sick ...ala Jim Jones, etc)

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/19/2007 12:34:23 PM

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By the way, living as an military brat in other countries is not the same as living in those countries or being a citizen or member of that culture. You were there for a short period of time primarily under the military rules of the nation your father or mother (or both) served.

No, I'm not offended by your presence but by the attitude that I'm picking up from you in this and many other posts from you.

You tolerate women having rights in the USA which suggests that you would change it if you could.

I think if you want to live somewhere where you would not have legal rights, you should move there but you have no right to try and force others to live like you and your master do. When you say you tolerate things, that suggests you would work to change them.

I'm also very confused by your posts which claim you are a slave and have no rights and could be made to do anything and yet you post here. If you truly have no rights, why are you online? Why are you posting? Why are you talking to free people?

Or do you really mean that you are one man's slave and not some generic slave?

When you say things like this, daddysprop247, it makes no sense to me on even a logical level. If you truly believe you are inferior to men simply because you are female, I wonder why you post on a board where men read. If you are posting at all shouldn't it be to a women only board where you aren't talking to your superiors?

Or am I misunderstanding you again and you aren't really saying that women are inferior to men?

When you post I don't read the words of an inferior person, I read the posts of someone who has a private life that works one way who then uses that private way to extrapolate about what the rest of the world should be like. That does confuse and anger me a bit because, guess what, there are others in the rest of the world who do not feel they are inferior because of sex, gender, role, personality, race, or anything else.

In your relationship with your master you may indeed be a slave with no rights and no say, you may indeed be the inferior human being with him, but I do not think you are inferior, I do not think any group is inferior, and I'm offended that you extend your private dynamic onto the rest of us and merely tolerate the rest of us.

I don't tolerate you because what you do in your own relationship isn't my business so there is nothing for me to tolerate or not tolerate.

I may or may not try to understand how you think and live but I would never use the word tolerate because that implies I'm judging your way to be wrong.

I got mad and if I offended you and others who read my gut level reaction, I apologize for getting angry and spouting off.

I consider every person on this board to be an equal by mere fact they are human beings and when I see that attacked on anything greater than the personal relationship level, I get offended.

your getting offended is understandable, and i would never intentionally set out to offend anyone, but it's inevitable when different people from different walks of life, with different ideas, beliefs, etc., come together and share in a setting like this. you say that you are confused by me....i really do not understand why, except that perhaps you have a very unique and specific idea of the word "slave."

yes, i am "a" slave, because i am someone's property. i belong only to him, but slavery is not something that is shut off when i am outside of his presence or interacting with others, and then back on again like a light switch. always i strive to conduct myself as my Master wishes, even in posting on a board such as this. i'm not exactly sure why you feel a slave shouldn't be posting online, or communicating to free people, but if that is your way, it is your way. my Master encourages me to communicate via internet with all sorts of different people with all sorts of different perspectives on the lifestyle (in fact he is the creator of all my online profiles and such), he feels it's healthy as i don't often have the opportunity to communicate in-depth with others face to face. just because someone is not my equal, does not mean that there is something improper about me interacting or communcating with them. following that logic, an employee should never speak to an employer, a senator should never speak to a miner. as a slave, and as a female, i am only inferior to others in status, not in value.

now, as for beliefs regarding men and women in general, i can certainly understand why you, particularly as a female Dominant would be offended. i also understand that it is not politically correct in these online venues to speak of any absolutes or black/whites. however the truth is some of us (more than a few) DO have absolute views regarding certain things. i would never try to push or force our views on others, if i had some magical ability to control the universe i still would not paint the world with one color...diversity can be beautiful, and i do believe there should be a place for everyone. i just happen to have been raised and live in a place where those like me and my Master really do not have a place. so naturally i fantasize about living someplace where we could just be, in peace, just as those with more diverse/diplomatic views feel they can be at peace here. yes, i "tolerate" living in a society contrary to my personal values and beliefs because i have no choice, we aren't going anyplace anytime soon. however that does not mean that i wish all of those who feel differently would disappear or that they would all convert to our views. but it also does not mean that i will not or should not share our views, however unwelcome some might find them, as they are just as valid as anyone else's.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/19/2007 12:42:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: JackM1

soooo...does anyone have anymore information about the case? have there been any interviews or are they keeping the entire thing hush hush?

(not to be snippy with anyone, but the topic is bad enough without forum members critisizing and arguing about other forum members' personal opinions)

all i could find was a snippet on foxnews saying that he was being held on $3 million dollar bond. chances are we won't hear anything else, unless he gets the death penalty, due to the measures taken to protect the woman's identity.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/20/2007 12:02:37 PM

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In a heartbeat.
If I see someone obviously hurting someone..it becomes my buisness if it is in a public place.
As for neighbors?
If it's kids?
It depends ....on the neighbors,and on the situation....and how old is the kid?
If it's adults?..Let em have at it.
Thinning the herd.
But if I know there's someone being abused I do manage to at least let the hurt
party know I am aware they are being abused.
It's their biz...interference often escalates problems, it seldom helps unless at least one party sincerely wants the help offered.
Some people just get along better if they periodically hit on one another.
Just because they don't call it kink don't mean it aint kink.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/20/2007 12:58:33 PM

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Just what are all these people that complain about this incident/arrest reflecting negatively on their 'lifestyle' going to do? Nothing, because the majority of people fear the opinions/repurcussions of so-called conventional society. This is another incident that will be soon out of mind, just like the arrest of Glen Marcus - aol username 'GMyoureGOD' (i cannot find the original story link, feel free to search) Nothing changes until people are willing to change it. As for the 'bondage rape', i do not know where this 'computer printout' he was allegedly following came from, and the link here to the arrest story says little. Has anyone looked into this further, by chance?

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/20/2007 8:05:22 PM

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The first person to ask your question of, TrueCalling, is you.

What you are going to do?

Some of us do indeed do things. For seven years I spoke to at least a half dozen college classes about BDSM, sometimes I spoke to dorms and frat houses about it too. In other words, I took the time and energy to try and educate some of those vanilla that I could.

I also lead an open and out of the closet life. I don't lie to my friends, everyone who comes into our house knows we have a poly family and knows that Fox is my property. I don't lie to my colleagues if it were ever important for them to know more details about my private life they would. I even use my real name here, on my academic papers, and in all my published fiction and book reviews.

In short I believe that I do quite a damn bit to try and show vanilla people that most of us are really very much like them.

What do you do?

What do any of you do? Do you think it is enough? If not, what will you start doing today to make it enough?

You don't need to answer these questions here, they are merely to make you think because TrueCalling is correct. Moaning about how something like this rape case may negatively portray the lifestyle in this sort of venue does very little good.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/21/2007 6:59:45 AM

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How awful for her if that was non consensual, I cant imagine how she must be feeling.

And then on the other hand because we dont know all the facts, if this is a lie or something even more weird between them and she did consent and just regretted it later then, why the hell would you go through all that in public and have everybody know, because i imagine that would be a hard thing to try and pull off you would crack eventually.
Im glad that you have a good sentancing style in America !! He would get under ten years here probably for that !!!!
I think there will always be some friction between different posters on here because we are all different, i guess some people do play like that and enjoy it, fair enough I say who am I to judge. All i can say is even if that was consensual i think it went way beyond where it was meant to and it was wrong !!! No means NO even if it is bdsm if you have a safe word and you used it its No.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/22/2007 5:35:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: ClosetSinner
As for the "sexist" thing. Think of it in reverse. Is a woman allowed to cut off her husband's penis? It belongs to her, she married him.

Got a pickle jar to the ready!! Brilliant reply.

One more thing... Someone said about watching the tape, as evidence.. Dont you think the woman has been though enough. But to know that people are studying your fears your worst moments in detail, maybe that is what he wanted from the beginning?

That is just wrong in so many ways……..

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/22/2007 10:20:43 PM

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good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen,
It is in our nature to be horrified ,its is in our nature to be upset and angry and all of us feel the need to offer an opinion and they digress, and very often differ radically ,
basic human dignity is one freedom that i personally cherish , and i think this lady, consenting or not has had that taken away..
if twas consensual, then i feel for her loss of privacy

( having had to explain to Policemen that no Im not being tortured to death , yes he is my husband and yes i like what he is doing, and if we are going to have this conversation would someone please let him off the floor so he can unchain me and cover me???)

and if it wasnt consensual then i feel for her sense of personal dignity,,

( how sad to have someone you love and trust? betray that in such a way and then have to endure the constant pokings and proddings of the worlds media.)

it all makes me think upon my days and smile as i realise how lucky i am..

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/23/2007 1:01:57 AM

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greetinfgs to all

this is not as someone said bdsm or bondage this was rape and torture he was a loose nut and wanted to hurt and scare her for life. what a sick men so many will think this is something to do with the self and sane of our life stlye no it had nothing to do with us, wow he will be someone bitch when he reaches jail and then he will know and remember what he did to his wife, the one thing many prisoner hate is a rapist and child attacker trust me on this one. i had a dear friend rape so many years ago before they had the things they do now. she never forgot what happen and die so alone and still scare of a normal life he beat her so bad i .........i cry now when i think of it i did not know who she was this is a crime of hate, what he did to his wfie was not bdsm it was hateret and a man who could not be a true man someone caring and lvoing in the bdsm world we know of true men not this fool

my prays are with her
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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/23/2007 6:10:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I'm sorry but when I see or hear someone say these things I think two things.

1) You really have no idea what life is like in these societies you are romancizing about.

2) You need to move and find out and leave the rest of us alone.

actually, being a former military brat and having lived for brief periods all over the world, the islamic middle east included, i have a pretty good idea of what life can be like in those places. as for your second point, that's just not very nice...is my presence in the united states offending you personally?

Wow, does anyone else find it interesting that daddysprop247 is a military brat, yet eschews the freedoms for which her parent(s) fought? The fact that she chooses to be a slave is a contradiction to me. A slave has no choices. A slave is sold on the block to the highest bidder to be owned and controlled based solely on the whims and wishes of the buyer. In these other "old fashioned" countries, the best a woman could hope for is that her father would choose someone she could tolerate living with for the rest of her life. However, in our free society, she was free to choose a lifestyle that suits her sensibilities, choose a Master that obviously inspires love and devotion in her, choose to state her opinion, which is obviously not shared by many, but still free to state that opinion without fear of arrest or prosecution....

I rejoice that daddysprop247 was able to choose a lifestyle and Master that has obviously fulfilled her dreams and desires. It would never be my choice. I'm a bossy bitch who has a lot of words and a dominant personality that has spent over three decades with a man that, on the surface, seems quite submissive and yet is quite the opposite. He's quiet but strong enough to catch me when I fall off my high horse...it's my choice and I'm blessed to be in a society that allows that choice. Doesn't make my choice correct or incorrect, nor daddysprop247 choices. Politically correct doesn't mean diddly when it comes to personal fulfillment and happiness.

Just some thoughts...

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/23/2007 8:34:31 AM

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IMO it is because there is choice available. There are many places where opportunity to choose your life simply does not exist.
She CHOOSES, she utilizes the opportunity to choose because she can.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/23/2007 3:38:41 PM

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IMO it is because there is choice available. There are many places where opportunity to choose your life simply does not exist.
She CHOOSES, she utilizes the opportunity to choose because she can.

My point exactly...she chooses a life in which she desires no further choices...quite a contradiction...a society that encourages people with differing opinions to live together in peace is truly a blessed place to exist and I would hope that she would be thankful for that at least, and be appreciative of the progress of feminism which allows her so much freedom of choice...

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/23/2007 11:02:19 PM

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I think it is inevitable that the vanilla world will not understand what we do and why we do it.
When people do not understand they attack, very often.
I do not see any way around that, though in the future people may become more open minded.
That is a very bad thing, that video, both for the poor woman and for us into the lifestyle cause it makes people think that is what we would do. Very sad

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/24/2007 8:47:07 AM

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sensualmagirl, if I witnessed someone being hit outside in a public place, yes, I would likely call the police. If it is a M/s relationship, they should not really involve the public non-consentually by displays of physical violence out in the world. I have no issue with many, many of the things we do taking place in public, but what appears to be abuse is not okay. My mother was in an abusive relatoinship for years and I am particularly sensitive to it.

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/24/2007 12:36:42 PM

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for a newbie like me thats enough to scare me right back into the closet .........

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/24/2007 9:54:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDiane

Just this morning on PBS there was a documentary about women in remote parts of Afghanistan and what they had in the way of hospitals.
Some beaten bloody as they fought for their own life and the life of the unborn child they carried after their husbands whipped them to the point of near death.
I'm sure some part inside of them wished they could be anywhere BUT the life they were in. I'm sure some wished that they *would* die so they wouldn't have to carry on with this life and the way it was.
There's nothing romantic about that. There's nothing wonderful about living like that. There's nothing so fantastic about living with a man that has so little regard for your life or that of the child you may be carrying.
I wonder how those that fantasize about that life would really feel if it were them lying in a pool of their own blood clinging to life.
No man has that right.
IMHO

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RE: Man rapes wife in 2-Hour "Bondage video" - 2/25/2007 3:40:04 AM

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My cousin, a large, strong, Dominant man got tired of hearing the screams and seeing the black eyes and bruises on his next door neighbor's live-in girlfriend. He'd called the cops but one day he called the cops and then went over to confront the situation himself. The police report said my cousin got in a few really good licks to the abusive boyfriend before the boyfriend shot my cousin dead, then killed the girlfriend and thankfully then killed himself.

That there are a plethora of men who hate and fear women that murder is a leading cause of death among women aged 20-35. i would hate to think what the death toll would be if killing ones spouse were not against the law because she is chattle and one can do whatever they want with her.

http://www.jrrobertssecurity.com/security-news/security-crime-news0043.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/assist/nvaa2002/chapter9sup.html

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/womenfs.htm

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