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juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:03:29 PM)
quote: Drugs generally don't involve intimate body parts.If the relationship is sexual, that would mean a woman would have to deal with the fact that her man's dick that had been inside of her had also been up some man's ass. I've seen men on talk shows confess to their girlfriends that they had been with men, yet swear that they were straight. Most of the audience disagreed and said they were bi. We are not living in a vanilla world, and even most vanillas I know would not define things the way you do. Gosh, I know so many women that have done bisexual things once and that told them they were not bisexual.... Do you know how many young pubescent men experiment with each other, at least through masturbation... come on... it is so common! I know you are revolted, but the facts of life are not going to change for you

juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:04:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll bananas are a fatal limit for me. lmao

sensualmagirl -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:05:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The point is, when most people see the word straight, they think a person has only been involved with those of the opposite sex. If someone didn't know that "straight" male subs are sexual with men, they may not think to specifically ask. Some women don't like the idea of being with a man who has engaged in sexual acts with other men. What happens if she finds this out 2 years into the relationship and is totally grossed out by it? Well, I read this and felt a little put-off by the statement... I'm a bit more open minded I guess... but, if said woman finds out and is "grossed out" by it, then, she should leave him... not judge him or others because of her problems with bisexuality. By the way, I don't agree, people can explore their curiosities (I find it perfectly natural), and not be bi-sexual. Bisexual, to me, means a constant flux of wanting to be with both men and women, not a one time thing... especially if it was in their past. It makes life really difficult judging others by their past sexual experiences. But, if it disgusts you, that's where communication becomes very important. Just my 2 cents.

viperess -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:06:22 PM)
Greeting OP, It sounds like your best bet is to find you a virgin male and you will not have to worry about it.

AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:07:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl Big difference. Nobody has to do anything in BDSM. That's why there are hard limits. Actually... some of us do this crazy thing calling "obeying" even if we don't like it. Unless Valyraen tells me to do something interferes with me being alive, my ability to pass college, or violates my ethics on a deep level - I do it. It really doesn't matter what. Some of us like turning over that much power. Clearly you don't, and that's great. Whatever works for you! However you shouldn't assume that just because we did something for our masters/owners that we were all gung-ho about it. Of course it wouldn't be a hard limit for you. On your profile, it openly states that you are bisexual. I admire your honesty. bangs head into wall You don't listen. I'm not talking about sexuality. I'm talking about obeying. I hate, hate, hate cleaning. Seriously. With a passion. I'd hire people to come do it if I could. Valyraen tells me to clean. I do it. Does that magically mean I like to clean? Come on now. Why would sexuality be any different unless you are repulsed by the idea of having sex with a person of the same gender. And no. Non-repulsation at the idea of having sex with the same sex does not a bisexual make.

juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:09:48 PM)
quote: Of course it wouldn't be a hard limit for you. On your profile, it openly states that you are bisexual. I admire your honesty. You do not have bisexuality listed as a hard limit on your profile, can we assume from this that you are bisexual?

FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:11:53 PM)
Okay I am going to send you all on a bad trip without the use of LSD. Imagine the OP became an influential political figure. I would say in a very short time that anyone raped or molested by a member of the same sex would in short order be labeled bisexual. Now, a homosexual being raped or molested by a member of the opposite sex would too be classified as bisexual. Some how I see the trend turning to forced sterilization for the purification of the human race. P.S. I am allergic to bananas.

DiurnalVampire -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:13:29 PM)
Perhaps you should accept that there are more than just your definition of sexuality, and make the question of ones actions something you discuss early on in an interaction? You arent going to convince anyone here that your point of view is the right one, jus as they arent going to convince you to change your ideas. If the concept that your man's dick has been somewhere it shouldnt have been squicks you out that badly then its something you have to put on the table right off. The problem then being that if someone wants to be with you badly enough, they arent going to openly admit what they have done anyway. Whenever you are that gung ho against someting, especially something that cannot be proven true or false after the fact, then you run the risk of being lied to anyway. People conceal affairs they had from partners later on, they conceal other lovers that might not seem acceptable, and they conceal taboo sex practices they think will be held against them. Someone is about as likely to openly admit to having had forced bi sex with anotehr man if they know you are against it as they are to admit having had an extramarital affair if you are a strictly monogamous person. DV

AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:13:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: Of course it wouldn't be a hard limit for you. On your profile, it openly states that you are bisexual. I admire your honesty. You do not have bisexuality listed as a hard limit on your profile, can we assume from this that you are bisexual? Oooo... excellent point! Maybe I get her to come over for some play! wicked evil grin I'm sure I could be persuaded to break my vow of monogamy. With Valyraen's permission of course.

sensualmagirl -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:14:12 PM)
Ok, FT, now I'm very scared of such a scenario happening... thanks for the nightmares [;)]

AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:15:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll Okay I am going to send you all on a bad trip without the use of LSD. Imagine the OP became an influential political figure. I would say in a very short time that anyone raped or molested by a member of the same sex would in short order be labeled bisexual. Now, a homosexual being raped or molested by a member of the opposite sex would too be classified as bisexual. Some how I see the trend turning to forced sterilization for the purification of the human race. P.S. I am allergic to bananas. Troll, please don't ever do that again. I'll protect you from the bananas....

FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:16:02 PM)
Muhahahaha.... and no daddy at home to keep you safe.

freakgoddess -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:16:52 PM)
omfg...i don't know whether to laugh or cry.

FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:17:47 PM)
I hope the OP gets the point, because it damn sure isn't being missed by anyone else.

kate -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:18:38 PM)
sexuality is fluid..i know men who have been with men in the past but do not wish to in the future and are only attracted to women now....these men are stright....i am bi, but i have been with women who are stright, they were just experimenting (i am a university student, lol...lots of that going around here) i guess what i mean is that simply becasue someone has had a homoerotic experience or has had some form of gay or bi experience in there life does not have anything to do with what they want or are willing to do in the future....i have no desire to be with ANYONE aside from my Dom, but if he wants me to i will to please him...gender is not important

viperess -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:18:55 PM)
Oh no FukinTroll please say it ain't so...not forced sterilization...okay no bananas for you but the rest of us can have them right?????

FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:19:51 PM)
Well fuk a duck! I am moving in with kate!

juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:21:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Perhaps you should accept that there are more than just your definition of sexuality, and make the question of ones actions something you discuss early on in an interaction? You arent going to convince anyone here that your point of view is the right one, jus as they arent going to convince you to change your ideas. If the concept that your man's dick has been somewhere it shouldnt have been squicks you out that badly then its something you have to put on the table right off. The problem then being that if someone wants to be with you badly enough, they arent going to openly admit what they have done anyway. Whenever you are that gung ho against someting, especially something that cannot be proven true or false after the fact, then you run the risk of being lied to anyway. People conceal affairs they had from partners later on, they conceal other lovers that might not seem acceptable, and they conceal taboo sex practices they think will be held against them. Someone is about as likely to openly admit to having had forced bi sex with anotehr man if they know you are against it as they are to admit having had an extramarital affair if you are a strictly monogamous person. DV You are so right about this post! I want my partner to be his complete self with me... and some things take a long time to find out, and if one is really judgmental they actually draw the things they are judging to them. God I want what I have to be open and free, and if at this point he confided something to me about having a bisexual experience, it would not matter... I know his HIV status for a fact.. why would I hold it against him? Being sexually open is one of the biggest gifts WIITWD can give people if they embrace it...

FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:22:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: viperess Oh no FukinTroll please say it ain't so...not forced sterilization...okay no bananas for you but the rest of us can have them right????? Yes but.... how did julia put it..... you will all be cocksucking monkey's. You know... the more I think about that... the more I want to call Chaquita and make a large purchase for all the lovely ladies of CM.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/18/2007 11:23:19 PM)
I always thought straight men experimented on themselves with masturbation, not other men. My son's father was a natural dom, even though he didn't ever say he was into the lifestyle, he was always referring to himself as MasterSir then his name. He wouldn't even engage in anal sex with a woman because the whole idea of anything anal made him think about homosexuality. He was enraged over the fact that this man had married me saying he was straight. I am not the only one who feels this way. If a man can honestly swear he's straight when he's been with men, that would mean my husband did nothing wrong.

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