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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:10:30 AM

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What goes good with Dom? Red wine?

Dom Perignon of course! Silly troll.

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Crap I am such a faker.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:12:19 AM

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fava beans?....heck no, you don't need any veggies with a meal like that....just meat and liquer....and katchup...

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:14:26 AM

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Hmm... Kate I am beginning to think you are a coinsure of the culinary arts, and a fan of Dr. Lector.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:18:03 AM

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bua ha ha....it's funny becasue for most of my life i was a veggie...and only started eating meat in january, lol....

oh..and to stay on topic....WOOT for sexual experimentation

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:19:19 AM

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oh..and to stay on topic....WOOT for sexual experimentation

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:21:04 AM

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Hate and disgust are not the same thing at all. I think liver has a disgusting taste. Some people like it. That would be like me saying I hated anyone who liked liver just because I thought it was disgusting.

I'm not saying you hate bisexuals, though perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly. Sorry for that.

You've stated you are repulsed by the idea of having sex with a man who had sex with a man. Even if it was just once and he then discovered he was completely straight. To me, that smacks of something less then acceptance and understanding of non-straight sexualities.

I accept and understand them very well. I respect their preference and don't try to change them. That doesn't mean I want to be with one. I think anyone has a right to know whether or not someone has engaged in bisexual acts before having sex with them. If these subs would just admit that they are bisexual in their profiles, straight people would know this upfront. People have different sexual orientations........it's not like they have anything to be ashamed of. This applies to me too. If I ever engage in bisexual acts, even if I'm following the orders of a dom, I will change my sexual orientation on my profile to bisexual, I promise.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:24:20 AM

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i think the OP is not getting that it is not that these people are ashamed of there bi-sexuality.....it's that they don't think that they are...and sexuual orientation is something that one can only define for themselves....just beasue you say they are bi does not make them so....only they can say that

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:26:54 AM

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I accept and understand them very well. I respect their preference and don't try to change them. That doesn't mean I want to be with one. I think anyone has a right to know whether or not someone has engaged in bisexual acts before having sex with them. If these subs would just admit that they are bisexual in their profiles, straight people would know this upfront. People have different sexual orientations........it's not like they have anything to be ashamed of. This applies to me too. If I ever engage in bisexual acts, even if I'm following the orders of a dom, I will change my sexual orientation on my profile to bisexual, I promise.

I believe, very firmly, no you don't understand us. Or at least, you haven't shown us. Since you aren't bisexual, I don't really think you can say that. Unless there is something you aren't telling us.

In my opinion, and the opinion of most the people I know, you don't have the right to know anything except that he has a clean bill of the health. However, you do have the right to say "I won't a submit to you unless you spill the beans".

What continues to astound me is that you don't think it's possible to try it and realize it's not for you. That one encounter makes you a bisexual. To me it's positively insane. After all, one attempt at butt play doesn't make an anal slut.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:28:33 AM

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i think the OP is not getting that it is not that these people are ashamed of there bi-sexuality.....it's that they don't think that they are...and sexuual orientation is something that one can only define for themselves....just beasue you say they are bi does not make them so....only they can say that

Wonderfully stated.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:30:10 AM

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That's exactly what makes the whole thing so scary. If I had never read the forums, I would've thought male subs who said they were straight had never been with a man. Not everyone with a profile on this site reads the forums.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:31:03 AM

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What continues to astound me is that you don't think it's possible to try it and realize it's not for you. That one encounter makes you a bisexual. To me it's positively insane. After all, one attempt at butt play doesn't make an anal slut.

or trying pot once in high school makes you a druggie....or eating at "the golden wok" makes you chineese....or spelling colour insted of color makes you british....it just dosen't work like that

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:32:18 AM

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That's exactly what makes the whole thing so scary. If I had never read the forums, I would've thought male subs who said they were straight had never been with a man. Not everyone with a profile on this site reads the forums.

Again, why do you think this scary? As long as they are clean... *sighs* I swear I'm close to giving up. I wish I get you to come to a PRIDE meeting or PFLAG or something.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:33:54 AM

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I accept and understand them very well. I respect their preference and don't try to change them. That doesn't mean I want to be with one. I think anyone has a right to know whether or not someone has engaged in bisexual acts before having sex with them. If these subs would just admit that they are bisexual in their profiles, straight people would know this upfront. People have different sexual orientations........it's not like they have anything to be ashamed of. This applies to me too. If I ever engage in bisexual acts, even if I'm following the orders of a dom, I will change my sexual orientation on my profile to bisexual, I promise.

I believe, very firmly, no you don't understand us. Or at least, you haven't shown us. Since you aren't bisexual, I don't really think you can say that. Unless there is something you aren't telling us.

In my opinion, and the opinion of most the people I know, you don't have the right to know anything except that he has a clean bill of the health. However, you do have the right to say "I won't a submit to you unless you spill the beans".

What continues to astound me is that you don't think it's possible to try it and realize it's not for you. That one encounter makes you a bisexual. To me it's positively insane. After all, one attempt at butt play doesn't make an anal slut.

Trying something once and deciding you don't like it is one thing. I bet many of these straight male subs have done it more than once.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:36:55 AM

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Kate time for a lesson in troll 101

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bua ha ha....it's funny becasue for most of my life i was a veggie...and only started eating meat in january, lol....

oh..and to stay on topic....WOOT for sexual experimentation

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bua ha ha... it's funny because for most of my life I have been looking for an uber Domly Dom and that is you!

Oh.. and I am packing all my stuff... and will be boarding the next flight to you WOOT!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:37:25 AM

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Trying something once and deciding you don't like it is one thing. I bet many of these straight male subs have done it more than once.

Oh heaven forbid you give something a fair shot and try it more then once! Or even be unsure!

"You've had anal sex twice, you are now an ass slut!" "She's smoked pot ten times! She's just a druggie! I bet she even sells her body to get it!" "He swears he doesn't drink anymore but I don't believe him. I know he drank all through his college days. What a boozer!"

Or even better...

"Yeah there isn't any proof but I know she had mutiple partners in college. I mean... You can't just stop having sex. It's not possible. Such a fuckin' slut. You know she can't be faithful because clearly one person could never satisfy."

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:39:28 AM

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Just because we disagree on something doesn't mean I don't respect your orientation. I want you to know that. I'm just a firm believer in honesty. I guess those who are straight and don't read the forums will just have to learn the hard way.........and experience something similar to what I did with my husband.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:41:28 AM

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Just when I was begining to think you were human you said this:

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Trying something once and deciding you don't like it is one thing. I bet many of these straight male subs have done it more than once.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:42:08 AM

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Just because we disagree on something doesn't mean I don't respect your orientation. I want you to know that. I'm just a firm believer in honesty. I guess those who are straight and don't read the forums will just have to learn the hard way.........and experience something similar to what I did with my husband.

Hon you can respect something and be repulsed by it. After all, I respect your right to say everything you are saying and you clearly don't have clue when it comes to bisexuality.

And for the last bloody time: SEXUALITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHEATING. YOUR HUSBAND WAS AN ASS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT HE WAS GAY.

Can I make it any clearer?

Edited to add: I mean.. if sexuality did have something to do with cheating, what the fuck do you have to say about all the straights who cheat?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:45:22 AM

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Kate time for a lesson in troll 101

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bua ha ha....it's funny becasue for most of my life i was a veggie...and only started eating meat in january, lol....

oh..and to stay on topic....WOOT for sexual experimentation

I heard:

bua ha ha... it's funny because for most of my life I have been looking for an uber Domly Dom and that is you!

Oh.. and I am packing all my stuff... and will be boarding the next flight to you WOOT!

oh goodness *blink blink blush*

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/19/2007 12:47:56 AM

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you don't even want to know what that means in Trollish.

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