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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:18:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Ooooh, and it looks like Chia only retaliates so viciously because he has a problem handling the truth!
Who's next? C'mon guys, this thread is gold. I want to see how long it takes before he goes running back to Mystress crying that the people on the intarnet are being mean again!

You called me out here babe, I thrive on the exchange, bring it on.

Though I must say, WTF isn't sinking in about a post over a year old?

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:22:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Though I must say, WTF isn't sinking in about a post over a year old?

So basically you can't handle the fact that people are disagreeing with you, and trying to bring up the fact that it's an old post despite the fact that

a.) I wasn't the one who originally dredged it up and only ever looked at it because it was up at the top of the forum as having a new post to it.

b.) The age of a post does not make it any less relevant. Even if the OP is no longer checking the thread or has made his decision, it can still serve as a sounding board for others who are experiencing similar situations. Obviously someone was interested in it or it would never have been brought back up to the top.

Chia, your behavior is not terribly in line with all of the things you say about yourself in your profile... tsk, tsk...

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:23:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: cbtnovice

I would rather find a real living breathing domme, not some bogus "online" domme. If I wanted "financial domination" I could just send my money to the Nigerians and jerk myself off.

Oh wait, there's a good chance Mystress World IS the Nigerians with a new scam.

So do it already and quit complaining.

Or, you could send me your money and then jerk yourself off.

Whatever turns your screw.

Just want everyone to be happy ya know.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:32:45 AM

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Chia (A.K.A. chiaThePet),

I appreciate that you feel a strong sense of allegiance to your Domina and to a site where you gained experience and knowledge. None-the-less, my initial read after going to Mystress World isn't much different from what MistressCalico, Wickad, Najakcharmer, the OP himself, and a few others have described. The things that caught my attention are:

1.) The site seems completely concerned with sex as opposed to BDSM relationship dynamics.

2.) There are atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes on every page.

3.) Structured training is fine, but the boxes this site purports to "fit" submissives into seem unrealistic and unconcerned with real-world, human needs and feelings.

4.) The site is riddled with fantasy-inspired, female supremacist dogma. (Other Dominas who posted here called this "Top's Disease".)

5.) The "give us your information before we show you anything" aspect, all by itself, makes the site appear like a troll for personal information.

6.) This is a pay site that carelessly and unethically attempts to deceive people into thinking it is a free, community site. Ethical professionals state their services and fees up front, not in the fine print.

Based on all of this, I am warning the OP to be wary of this site. If you are as concerned for Mystress (spelling mistake per *her* handle) as you seem to be, I would ask you to respectfully pass on this information to her. Perhaps I'm a little more experienced than her target audience, but in any event, the site looks like a scam and that is enough for me to warn the OP and others away from it.

Elan.

< Message edited by ElanSubdued -- 4/9/2008 11:31:05 AM >

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:32:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Though I must say, WTF isn't sinking in about a post over a year old?

So basically you can't handle the fact that people are disagreeing with you, and trying to bring up the fact that it's an old post despite the fact that

a.) I wasn't the one who originally dredged it up and only ever looked at it because it was up at the top of the forum as having a new post to it.

b.) The age of a post does not make it any less relevant. Even if the OP is no longer checking the thread or has made his decision, it can still serve as a sounding board for others who are experiencing similar situations. Obviously someone was interested in it or it would never have been brought back up to the top.

Chia, your behavior is not terribly in line with all of the things you say about yourself in your profile... tsk, tsk...

No, it seems that you can't handle my disagreeing with you, and yes, it's an
old post, can't change that.

This post was brought up with cbtnovice making accusations about ME, and I
came on board to respond. In addition, I responded to threads addressing
ME etc. ect..

As far as my outlandish (on my, oh God, oh no he didn't) behavior, is this one
of those, "because I'm a Dominant, you need to bow down to my views and
not question such" moments?

chia* (the pet)

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You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:46:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

Chia (A.K.A. chiaThePet),

I appreciate that you feel a strong sense of allegiance to your Domina and to a site where you gained experience and knowledge. None-the-less, my initial read after going to Mystress World isn't much different from what MistressCalico, Wickad, Najakcharmer, the OP himself, and a few others have described. The things that caught my attention are:

1.) The site seems completely concerned with sex as opposed to BDSM relationship dynamics.

2.) There are atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes on every page.

3.) Structured training is fine, but the boxes this site purports to "fit" submissives into seem unrealistic and unconcerned with real-world, human needs and feelings.

4.) The site is riddled with fantasy-inspired, female supremacist dogma. (Other Dominas who posted here called this "Top's Disease".)

5.) The "give us your information before we show you anything" aspect, all by itself, makes the site appear like a troll for personal information.

6.) This is a pay site that that carelessly and unethically attempts to deceive people into thinking it is a free, community site. Ethical professionals state their services and fees up front, not in the fine print.

Based on all of this, I am warning the OP to be wary of this site. If you are as concerned for your Mystress (spelling mistake per *her* handle) as you seem to be, I would ask you to respectfully pass on this information to her. Perhaps I'm a little more experienced than her target audience, but in any event, the site looks like a scam and that is enough for me to warn the OP and others away from it.

Elan.

Elan, you're not being very subdued here.

I left MystressWorld over a year ago, the re-emergence of this subject began
with a personal afront to myself. My allegiance is to myself here, no one else.

Yes, the site can be everything you have noted here, but above all else,
it is a voluntary site to join. We all are born with free choice.

My experience there was for the most part, good and fun. I chose to be a
part of the site. I'm not going to spend my waking moments posting about
every website I stumble upon which may or may not suit my fancy.

I will disagree here only on the facts that Mystress purposely spells her
identification this way as a separation from the mundane and oft used
Mistress. Second, it is explained early on that there is cost to join the
site. This is no secret. Again freedom of choice.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:47:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet
As far as my outlandish (on my, oh God, oh no he didn't) behavior, is this one
of those, "because I'm a Dominant, you need to bow down to my views and
not question such" moments?

Did you seriously just use the "no, YOU!" comeback?

And absolutely not. I don't own you, nor would I ever want to, but I was merely stating that your profile doesn't seem to fit the side of you that you're showing right now. I will say, however, that this is the same public behavior I'm currently working to break my boy of -- throwing temper tantrums and resorting to name-calling when he doesn't get his way.

Now, believe what you'd like to believe about my character or my personality, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm not looking to gain any subs or slaves on top of my own (no pun intended) and I'm not a 'pro' with a reputation to uphold.

I guess we agree to disagree with each other, Chia.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:51:49 AM

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Chia,

quote:

chiaThePet to Pyrrsefanie:
As far as my outlandish (on my, oh God, oh no he didn't) behavior, is this one
of those, "because I'm a Dominant, you need to bow down to my views and
not question such" moments?

No Chia, at the risk of putting words into Pyrrsefanie's mouth, she isn't expecting you to bow down to her views or to her dominance. Rather, this is one of those "if you make an ass of yourself, people will call you on it" moments. I've been holding back because I've always enjoyed your posts. That said, you've been rude to everyone in this thread who doesn't share your views. Likewise, seemingly, you've behaved in an extremely intolerant, close-minded fashion. If this is the result of Mystress World's training, it doesn't speak well for you, for Mystress, or for Mystress World.

Sidenote to Pyrrsefanie: I apologize if I've misrepresented your thoughts or spoken for you in a way that is presumptuous, rude, and/or undesired.

Elan.

< Message edited by ElanSubdued -- 4/9/2008 11:32:43 AM >

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 10:57:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet
As far as my outlandish (on my, oh God, oh no he didn't) behavior, is this one
of those, "because I'm a Dominant, you need to bow down to my views and
not question such" moments?

Did you seriously just use the "no, YOU!" comeback?

And absolutely not. I don't own you, nor would I ever want to, but I was merely stating that your profile doesn't seem to fit the side of you that you're showing right now. I will say, however, that this is the same public behavior I'm currently working to break my boy of -- throwing temper tantrums and resorting to name-calling when he doesn't get his way.

Now, believe what you'd like to believe about my character or my personality, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm not looking to gain any subs or slaves on top of my own (no pun intended) and I'm not a 'pro' with a reputation to uphold.

I guess we agree to disagree with each other, Chia.

Apparently we're not even on the same planet here.

chia* (the pet)

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You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:17:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued
Sidenote to Pyrrsefanie: I apologize if I've misrepresented your thoughts or spoken for you in a way that is presumptuous, rude, and/or undesired.

You did wonderfully, Elan. Thank you.

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Ти саркастична, це – доля,
Ти артистична в неволі,
Ти симпатична в цій ролі,
Ти синтетична до болю

Read my series, Taking Jessica, on http://www.akashaweb.com !

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:24:13 AM

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Chia,

--- Elan, you're not being very subdued here.

I listed factual details about what I found at the Mystress World web site. As much as is feasible given the subject matter, I attempted to be objective. The site speaks for itself. Anyone going there will find as I have. Indeed, many in this thread observed the same and documented similarly in their own posts.

--- Yes, the site can be everything you have
--- noted here, but above all else, it is a voluntary
--- site to join. We all are born with free choice.

I agree with you. One of the ways I use my free choice is to call out scams. If it appears as a scam (even if it isn't), I tend to err on the side of safety. Note, it's important that you and everyone understand my distinction here. I'm not saying Mystress World is a scam, but rather that it appears this way and exhibits techniques (trolling for information, for example) that unethical web sites often use.

--- I will disagree here only on the facts that
--- Mystress purposely spells her identification
--- this way as a separation from the mundane
--- and oft used Mistress.

It's not so much your Mistress' handle, but rather all the other spelling and grammatical errors on the site that don't bode well. In this context, the "Mystress" misspelling is somewhat irksome.

--- Second, it is explained early on that there is
--- cost to join the site. This is no secret. Again
--- freedom of choice.

The cost is explained in the fine print and this is done very ambiguously (under the auspices that a "tribute" applies for submissives). Nowhere does the site describe it's actual costs and features in a clear, easy to access fashion. More importantly, the site asks for personal information before disclosing any features which, in itself, is enough for me to be wary and to warn others.

Elan.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:32:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

Chia,

quote:

chiaThePet to Pyrrsefanie:
As far as my outlandish (on my, oh God, oh no he didn't) behavior, is this one
of those, "because I'm a Dominant, you need to bow down to my views and
not question such" moments?
quote:

No. This is one of those "if you make an ass of yourself, people will call you on it" moments. I've been holding back because I've always enjoyed your posts. That said, you've been rude to almost everyone in this thread who doesn't share your views and, seemingly, extremely close-minded to boot. If this is the result of Mystress World's amazing training, it doesn't speak well for you, for your Mystress, or for Mystress World.

Elan.

Sorry to keep you waiting, lost my connection, and with it, my mind.

Does this post make my ass look big elan?

If you need to call me, dial 1-800-Wah-Wah-Wah.

Oh, don't hold back, it's not good to keep things bottled up.

I've been accused here of being a scam artist, someone other than who I say
I am, a Nigerian out for profit, a fool, and now an ass, among other things.

Gee, don't know where I might get the urge to be a little rude.

chia* (the pet)

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Love is a many splendid sting.

You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:53:31 AM

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Ok folks, enough.

XI

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:54:34 AM

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Chia,

--- Sorry to keep you waiting, lost my connection,
--- and with it, my mind. Does this post make my
--- ass look big elan?

I've always found your posts level-headed, polite, eloquent, and insightful. However, in this particular thread, it does appear that you have strong feelings about Mystress World that are stopping you from being objective. Nobody is saying Mystress is a bad person. It may also be true that Mystress World offers fabulous, insightful training that is good value for the money. All of this said, the site does not present itself in an ethical, professional way. With the many scams on the Internet, it is no wonder that people (myself included) would be cautious of such a site.

--- I've been accused here of being a scam artist,
--- someone other than who I say I am, a Nigerian
--- out for profit, a fool, and now an ass, among
--- other things.

Chia. Come on. I know you've got a wonderful sense of humour. One of the reasons I *always* read your posts is that I enjoy your sense of satire. Nobody in this thread is accusing you of anything (save for myself saying you were rude in some of your replies). The "Nigerian" and other slants aimed at you are tongue in cheek, and not meant to be taken seriously. Once you're feeling a little cooler, I'm hoping you'll see the humour in it.

As for your replies to Wickad, Pyrrsefanie, and others, if I may suggest, again, take a break from the thread and once you're feeling cooler, you may want to come back and apologize. Everyone understands that you have a personal relationship with Mystress. Your loyalty is admirable. However, rudeness is never appropriate and I dare say that Mystress herself probably wouldn't defend much of your behaviour in this thread. This thread struck an emotional chord for you. That's understandable. Just tell people that, apologize, and get back to being the level-headed, romantic Chia we all enjoy and respect.

Wishing you well,

Elan.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 11:59:29 AM

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ModeratorEleven,

--- Ok folks, enough.

Oops. I didn't see your comment before making my last post. Sorry about that. If I post again to this thread, I'll focus courteously and objectively on the OP's topic.

Elan.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/9/2008 12:02:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

Chia. Come on. I know you've got a wonderful sense of humour. One of the reasons I *always* read your posts is that I enjoy your sense of satire.

Wishing you well,

Elan.

Why thank you elan, thank you very much.

Please forgive me everyone, please forgive me.

And for a good time, call MystressWorld.

Ya da da da, ya da da da, ya da da da da da daaaaaaaaaaaaa dum.

Kisses to Mod11 for that lovely sense of control I as a submissive just crave.

chia* (the pet)

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Love is a many splendid sting.

You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/10/2008 3:43:12 PM

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I don't think I could have said it better myself. Mystress World appears to be nothing more than a thinly veiled unethical money making venture bordering on scam. I don't think I would have as much of a problem with the idea if they actually did provide a true education for those who need it. It appears to be based entirely on fantasy and cheap fantasy at that. All of the errors in grammer make me think the site was written by the Nigerians as just another scam. It is truely sad that they are preying on those who seek only truth and enlightenment. That is very sleezy.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

Chia (A.K.A. chiaThePet),

I appreciate that you feel a strong sense of allegiance to your Domina and to a site where you gained experience and knowledge. None-the-less, my initial read after going to Mystress World isn't much different from what MistressCalico, Wickad, Najakcharmer, the OP himself, and a few others have described. The things that caught my attention are:

1.) The site seems completely concerned with sex as opposed to BDSM relationship dynamics.

2.) There are atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes on every page.

3.) Structured training is fine, but the boxes this site purports to "fit" submissives into seem unrealistic and unconcerned with real-world, human needs and feelings.

4.) The site is riddled with fantasy-inspired, female supremacist dogma. (Other Dominas who posted here called this "Top's Disease".)

5.) The "give us your information before we show you anything" aspect, all by itself, makes the site appear like a troll for personal information.

6.) This is a pay site that carelessly and unethically attempts to deceive people into thinking it is a free, community site. Ethical professionals state their services and fees up front, not in the fine print.

Based on all of this, I am warning the OP to be wary of this site. If you are as concerned for Mystress (spelling mistake per *her* handle) as you seem to be, I would ask you to respectfully pass on this information to her. Perhaps I'm a little more experienced than her target audience, but in any event, the site looks like a scam and that is enough for me to warn the OP and others away from it.

Elan.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/10/2008 3:58:59 PM

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I looked it over after it was mentioned here....I felt that I could at least see what it was about....In all honesty, I wasnt impressed and wouldnt pass 2 seconds of My time near it or associated with it. The tact and manner of the owner, when I contacted to ask what they teach and how they go about it, was rude and abrasive to say the least.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/10/2008 4:04:38 PM

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Your first mistake is buying the bullshit people feed you, if you bought her line.

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Well I know a Mistrress the does not think so and she thinks that I am not a true slave.

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RE: Mistress I need your thoughts about Mystress World - 4/10/2008 5:04:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: cbtnovice

All of the errors in grammer make me think the site was written by the Nigerians as just another scam.

Nothing worse than poor grammar eh ?

As for the assertion that Chia is two people, thats laughable to anyone who has read all his posts.

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