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You have posters of her up on your walls then?

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Sarkozy (according to reputation) is a French Margeret Thatcher

We can only hope so!!!

How great would that be!!!

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My only regret about Margeret Thatcher is that she has not suffered a long, slow, painful death.

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My only regret about Margeret Thatcher is that she has not suffered a long, slow, painful death.

How tolerant of you.

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As an E.U. citizen I wonder if I could put in for the Dole in France?
How do you say "Gimme welfare, mother f*&%#r in French?

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 also can not find any reference to a riot currently occurring in France as of 3:00 p.m. PDST.  My apologies to base an opinion on non-confirmed information. At this point all's quiet. It's great. The measure of a democracy is in its ability to transmit power from one ruling party to another without riots and bloodshed. I expect that the defeated Ms. Royal will do her best to unify her followers with the victorious Mr. Sarkozy.

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Far-left activists had running battles with police across France as 270 people were taken in for questioning and 367 parked vehicles were torched.Two police unions said firebombs targeted schools and recreation centres in several towns in the Essonne region just south of Paris. BFM TV described rioters as "militant anarchists" apparently upset by the victory of a man of the right. Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=453227&in_page_id=1811

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BERLIN, May 7 (Reuters) - He is combative and outspoken. She is conciliatory and deferential.

But few leaders in Europe have as much in common where it really counts as Nicolas Sarkozy, the winner of Sunday's French presidential election, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Born within six months of each other, Sarkozy and Merkel are outsiders who overcame strong opposition from within their own parties to reach the pinnacle of European politics -- she as a pastor's daughter from communist East Germany and he as the son of a Hungarian immigrant who fled communism.

The two conservatives are united in their support for closer ties with Washington and in their opposition to Turkey's bid to join the EU -- clear departures from the stances of their predecessors Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder. Source: http://mobile.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L07124140.htm?=amp&_lite_=1 

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 also can not find any reference to a riot currently occurring in France as of 3:00 p.m. PDST.  My apologies to base an opinion on non-confirmed information. At this point all's quiet. It's great. The measure of a democracy is in its ability to transmit power from one ruling party to another without riots and bloodshed. I expect that the defeated Ms. Royal will do her best to unify her followers with the victorious Mr. Sarkozy.

Has there been a riot when a conservative or candidate from the 'right' lost to a liberal or left leaning candidate? When using the terms "acceptance" and "tolerance" should it be understood that there is a unspoken but assumed clause in those statements? Apparently acceptance and tolerance for our views and positions are the only things tolerated and accepted. 

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The US political arena can use; "...outsiders who overcame strong opposition within their own parties..."; as this snippet describes the new leaders of Germany and France. Another noteworthy item is that they are described as "...clear departures from the stances of their predecessors...". Although associated with Turkey's entry into the EU; hopefully it is a trend I wish the voters in the US have the opportunity to follow.

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Yikes. Who do YOU vote for, the BNP???

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My only regret about Margeret Thatcher is that she has not suffered a long, slow, painful death.

How tolerant of you.

She wasn't assassinated, that shows how tolerant the British are. She destroyed for destroying's sake and people now forget, unemployment and crime was rampent under her. She had to go to war to get the country behind her and the idiots were fooled by her rapping herself in the flag. She knew the cost of everything and the value of nothing. As a refugee of her economic policies, if she was on fire I wouldn't piss on her to put her out and when she dies I hope they bury her very deep and I hope I am allowed to be the first one to dance on her grave. She only won three election victories by the perculiarities of the fucked up British electoral system, the same reason Blair has managed to win three elections. Let the people who made loads of money under her greave for her, there will be more people that will regret she dies of old age than not.

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As an E.U. citizen I wonder if I could put in for the Dole in France?
How do you say "Gimme welfare, mother f*&%#r in French?

You wouldn't get it. Despite the rumours that anyone can get it that is not true, you have to qualify first, that is why there are so many illgal immigrants in northern France trying to get to Britain. In order to qualify you have to be resident in France and have to have worked and paid social security for a fixed period. Then you would qualify but only for a period of time. There are a lot of rumours, mainly put around by the rightwing that the French social security system is a charity. More problematic for the French than their social security system is their health system where a French system can demand as many opinions as they like from as many different consultants as they like. The French are also huge consumers of medications, their middleclass are a nation of hypochrondriacs. Other big costs for the French state is free tertiary education, cultural subsidies and subsidies for certain parts of agriculture. It is the French middleclass, not the unemployed and poor that are the leaches of the State and it is they (if one believes the political analysts) that voted in Sarkozy. It will be many Sarkozy voters that will feel the financial pain of his reforms if he carries them out and that is why I suspect there will be riots, it is also why some French people say he won't carry out the reforms he says he will. Many French say Sarkozy is for Sarkozy and will eventually make an accommodation with people who voted for him. We'll see.

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Well, I know I can get the dole in Ireland.
So, I want to go to Britain for the dole too instead of France?
And how about Holland? Germany?
If I work this right I can spend a week every month tooling around Europe picking up checks!
Can I claim the dole in each country using my name or should I buy phoney IDs and use different names for different countries like the "immigrants" do?
That's why you see immigrants there driving big Mercedes Benzes with, "I LOVE The European Union!" bumperstickers on them.
Do they have a cross check system with each country?

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The right don't need to riot, they have more effective ways of showing descent. 

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The right don't need to riot, they have more effective ways of showing descent.

MC,
Which of the "more effective ways" is unavailable to the other side?

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I suspect it is true for most countries in the west, the right are in control of the state apparatus so no left wing government can function properly.

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I suspect it is true for most countries in the west, the right are in control of the state apparatus so no left wing government can function properly.

If your reference to "state" is the individual States of the union; obviously you've never been to the State of California or the State of New York for that matter.