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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/30/2011 5:45:02 PM

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Hi VC! Thanks for the greeting.

Glad to know that I wasn't completely forgotten during my hiatus.

Mwah!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 2:37:20 AM

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A person I'd be looking for would say something like, "Oh, I know how to clean the toys." not "I was trained to clean toys".

Not 'How do you expect your toys to be cleaned'?

This is the biggest issue I have with the concept of training and service type submissives.

It's the people who assume that once you are trained once you are an expert in something.

No you're not. You just know how to do something competently one way. The skill in service type submission is knowing the exact boundary between what you should already know and what you are expected to find out and learn.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 4:57:06 AM

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Hello Roch. Glad to see you're still alive!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 7:43:24 AM

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Thanks, Peon. I'm still alive. I've just been too busy to visit CM. I've been going through a bit of a transition in the "real world". It's been taking up most of my time, but things are almost back to normal.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 8:08:01 AM

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ROCH!! good to see you! I hope the transition wasnt unpleasant~!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 10:27:58 AM

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Thanks GT. It was slightly unpleasant, but necessary.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 10:32:13 AM

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Welcome back, Roch. I'm a little confused, so you'll have to fill Me in.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 12:22:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: stellauk

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

A person I'd be looking for would say something like, "Oh, I know how to clean the toys." not "I was trained to clean toys".

Not 'How do you expect your toys to be cleaned'?

This is the biggest issue I have with the concept of training and service type submissives.

It's the people who assume that once you are trained once you are an expert in something.

No you're not. You just know how to do something competently one way. The skill in service type submission is knowing the exact boundary between what you should already know and what you are expected to find out and learn.

I absolutely agree, because when it comes down to it, I wouldn't care less how somebody trained someone to clean the toys, what I care about is that they are cleaned according to *my* standards, not somebody elses...

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/31/2011 1:52:49 PM

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there are plenty of real males slaves out here....the problem with many females who want to be a Mistress..suddenly think about £££££££££££ submission to another is not about money,submission comes in many forms....how many women here are really naturally Dominant and assertive who are looking for sub and slave like you ? another noted observation a slave can be a cherished property to own,,,not all slaves respond to some og the CRAP which comes out of so called Mistresses.....some would not know what a Mistress was if it bit them on the behind...

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/1/2011 8:52:00 PM

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I agree completely with PeonForHer. There is a massive difference between pulling your own weight in a relationship, and most of these so called "dommes" on cm who want money before anything.

SnowRanger's little story is so true.

this whole "in reply to" thing on this forum is so incredibly misleading...

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/8/2011 3:44:55 PM

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Hi.

It's not that there's aren't enough real slaves out there, it's just that they're not always so easy to find. Sometimes they're shy to come out because they've had a hard time finding real Mistresses, or they might be married and assume no Mistress will own him if he's married, or he might not know he has what it takes to be a good slave and he fears rejection. It'd be great if those slaves come forward and stop being so shy and apply anyways. You never know unless you try!!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/8/2011 3:56:42 PM

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or they might be married...It'd be great if those slaves come forward

I guess if you're making money out of them it'd be great. But if you're looking for an ethical relationship based on mutual trust? I personally would rather they stayed the hell back.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 4:12:05 PM

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males come to Us for training and We are happy to give them the training they seek. It is a mutual exchange and the slaves and the Mistresses are very satisfied and pleased with the outcome.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 4:25:43 PM

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I'm sure the wives of these married men you're seeking out in order to leave satisfied and pleased are equally satisfied and pleased with the way that money's being spent on what you offer. How does that fit into having ethical relationships based on mutual trust?

Oh, that's right. It doesn't. It fits into making money.

Which is ok if that's what you want to do, but I don't think you then get to complain about a lack of 'real' slaves.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 5:17:29 PM

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Most of the wives email Us for tutoring and are the ones who sent their husbands to Us for training. Again mutual.

Although there are a few married men who ask for training so they can better serve their Wives and prefer Her not to know because She is not into Femdom, so he wants to please Her but not scare Her off with his submission fantasies which makes Her uncomfortable. So We train him to please Her in an unselfish way that makes Her more satisfied. It is the reason why Our website and training program has done so well and for so long.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 5:23:06 PM

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OOOO just nm

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 6:25:08 PM

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Although there are a few married men who ask for training so they can better serve their Wives and prefer Her not to know because She is not into Femdom, so he wants to please Her but not scare Her off with his submission fantasies which makes Her uncomfortable. So We train him to please Her in an unselfish way that makes Her more satisfied.

I don't know what's more depressing....the fact that there are "submissive"men who need to be "trained" to please their partner unselfishly or that someone has created a business out of providing said "training".

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 6:28:13 PM

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OOOO just nm

I hear you.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/15/2011 7:03:48 PM

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Most of the wives email Us for tutoring and are the ones who sent their husbands to Us for training. Again mutual.

If most of your business comes from the wives of male submissives, then you need to change your search tactics. You need to search for married women who have submissive husbands they want you to train.

So the title of this thread should be "Why is there a lack of married women who are willing to pay me to train their husbands?"

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 4/16/2011 2:22:20 AM

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Most of the wives email Us for tutoring and are the ones who sent their husbands to Us for training. Again mutual.

I flat out do not believe you. All your available site literature, your site presentation is aimed at men, and at the vague promise that you might enslave those men when if they're good enough. Nowhere is there any mention of anyone serving their wives, and nowhere is there anything designed to appeal to women. All your testimonials on the first page are from men (if you're satisfying so many women why are there no testimonials?) and all those testimonials are focussed on the men's relationships with their trainers - none with their wives.

As for men signing up behind their partner's backs so they can better serve their wives, I can't cut and paste the text but this is your front page. Yeah, it really looks like you're offering to teach them how to be selfless and make their wives more satisfied. That's really what comes across. [/sarcasm]