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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/13/2011 5:08:51 PM

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Oh right - I get the 'unobtainable' thing. Me, I've seen pics and profiles of certain femsubs and thought, 'Oh hell, if only I could 'turn you around'' - though, have always assumed that that's not possible. Likewise, femdoms who are only interested in gay femsubs. But I'm a malesub. These are male Doms!

I think they get confused by the mixed signals given out by those fucking women who identify on the site as gay but have male partners (can you imagine anyone who'd do such a thing?)

And a certain number of 'Doms' are either switches who are put off by the stigma, or people like me who are dominant but masochistic. And people like us deserve tops too!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/13/2011 5:34:53 PM

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I think they get confused by the mixed signals given out by those fucking women who identify on the site as gay but have male partners (can you imagine anyone who'd do such a thing?)

Yes, I can, but I just take it that they're just free-minded sorts who are trying things out and are . . . to borrow a phrase . . . mainly curious, in a vague way, about things, at present.

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And a certain number of 'Doms' are either switches who are put off by the stigma, or people like me who are dominant but masochistic. And people like us deserve tops too!

I've often thought that sadists and masochists aren't very far apart - that the one could 'flip over' and be the other, at least occasionally. Me, the whole sadistic/masochistic world is something somewhat new.

OK, now I'm beginning to feel: 'Right, I thought I was complex. Now, I'm starting to think I'm actually quite simple and straightforward'! Fortunately, I'm also one of those who enjoys being baffled. ;-)

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/14/2011 3:29:42 AM

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Yes, I can, but I just take it that they're just free-minded sorts who are trying things out and are . . . to borrow a phrase . . . mainly curious, in a vague way, about things, at present.

Either that, or they're lucidly uninterested sorts who find the labelling options on CM inadequate

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/14/2011 6:19:47 AM

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Either that, or they're lucidly uninterested sorts who find the labelling options on CM inadequate

Yup. As far as I know, there's no proper term for someone who 'switches' between vanilla and sub. That might solve a host of problems. Odd.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/14/2011 6:26:15 AM

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*cries* whatever shall I do without you, Peon?

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/14/2011 6:48:59 AM

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*cries* whatever shall I do without you, Peon?

Yoo hoo, Greedy! Over here!

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/14/2011 7:28:53 AM

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I've often wondered the same thing. If you discount the Dommes that are in it for the pay only, and the males that are do-me types, what would be the resultant ratio of lifestyle Dommes and lifestyle male subs?

The ratio is highly imbalanced, there is really no need to wonder about it.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/15/2011 6:11:02 PM

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Well im not sure because i am thinking the same about finding a mistress. I am actively seeking a mistress to collar me and serve her in all ways not just bedroom.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/20/2011 10:03:27 AM

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I think that there is a big big difference between real trained slaves and untrained want to be's .I think real male slaves are scarce, part of the problem is that there is not enough slave education and training .Good sensible information is also lacking .I think the "female led relationship" group has some positive impact on this.

Someone mentioned that female slaves are a good source for training male slaves ,I agree .The other think is we need to be clearer as a community between subs and slaves and one night action vs, long term relationship .Is it possible to be a one night slave or is slavery a commitment like marriage.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/26/2011 12:21:05 PM

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i am a real slave!!!!, if i could live as one 24/7 i would, hate getting up at 3:00 am to work and be used as a pet monkey by my boss in construction, i could rather gett off the floor and be Your maid, slave servant all day, so You treat me like shit, i crave You and desire You, that is why i am Your slave, You give me life that no job, or personal freedoms can,
i may not be able to write a great profile, but i know where my heart and soul are.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/26/2011 1:14:31 PM

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I think real male slaves are scarce, part of the problem is that there is not enough slave education and training

Not to be snarky, but how much training and education do you need to do what your told?

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/26/2011 1:45:39 PM

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I think that there is a big big difference between real trained slaves and untrained want to be's .

As a personal viewpoint statement, I do to... I naturally assume that anyone who tells me that they are a "real, trained slave" is a wannabe... or at least is nothing that I would even remotely consider as "real". Pretty much what thishereboi said but with more skepticism about "BDSM training". For me, even the best of BDSM training would be counter to everything I think of as "real".

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/26/2011 2:08:56 PM

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Depends on who you're dealing with. I agree that "do what you're told" works, but some of that still might have some actual training involved. It would kind of be silly of Me to tell someone to take care of cleaning the toys in the bag if they didn't know how. (For example, thishereboi could, but some others might not.) Plus, even more than just standard cleaning, I'm pretty sure there are certain things related to it that I want done just My way. I do still call that training because I'm teaching them about My particulars.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/29/2011 11:36:59 AM

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I am a normally dom male, but do have a sub side that I would like to explore. I'm not looking to be humiliated and hurt, but rather to find a woman that is dominant in the bedroom, yet caring and supportive. I have found it more than a little difficult to locate true Dommes and Mistresses. So many are fake, and I would assume there are a lot of fake male subs and slaves also. The finer points of submission and domination have been lost in a sea of pretenders.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/29/2011 11:44:41 AM

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I am a normally dom male, but do have a sub side that I would like to explore. I'm not looking to be humiliated and hurt, but rather to find a woman that is dominant in the bedroom, yet caring and supportive. I have found it more than a little difficult to locate true Dommes and Mistresses. So many are fake, and I would assume there are a lot of fake male subs and slaves also. The finer points of submission and domination have been lost in a sea of pretenders.

Thread hijack....

What makes a woman a "true" domme or mistress?

I read this all the time... "true" "real" "fake" "wannabe"...dammit, why can't there just be a guidebook for these labels?!?!

ok, tongue removed from cheek...end of hijack.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/29/2011 3:04:11 PM

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I must be an extraordinarily lucky man!

Hello A/all,

I'd like to address both the O.P. and Andrew215 with what follows. During, and immediately after my "Second Thoreau Period," I happened to encounter an rather odd group of people. These people spent their days using pans and pumps and some form of sifting screens to sort through the rocks and sand in the streams of Northern California.

Please stay with me. I really am going some where with this.

The people I am referring to would (and, I'm sure still do) sift through all of this sand and stone to find those very few nuggets that contained a shiny yellow metal. At the time, I thought that it looked like a hell of a lot of work and disappointment. Now days that yellow metal is worth fourteen hundred dollars an ounce! I can only wonder at how many tons of rock and sand these people had to sort through to find the ounces they seek.

That's the major part of what I am trying to say. What ever it is that you seek; you sift through tons to find ounces. To make it even more complicated, what is a nugget for one may not be a nugget for another.

I have been on CollarMe since the end of May 2008. I wish that I could tell Academy, "Hey! I've been here the whole time!" Truth be told, I have been absent from CM more often than present. In the winter, obviously, I tend to other interests. Other times, my job worked me twelve hour day upon twelve hour day for weeks at a time. Sometimes... I was absent from CollarMe out of sheer despair. ...Stella... What can I say?....

I NEVER DOUBTED that there were plenty of, what are for me are, nuggets here on CM. I have corresponded with a lot of you and met a few to boot. No doubt, I have been picked up and discarded as a simple rock numerous times. Finally, someone picked me up and saw a nugget.

Nuggets finding nuggets... It's a TALL order.
Mike
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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/29/2011 4:17:51 PM

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ys some things in life take training, like cooking or being a gardern, any one can do most of it it takes a pro or some one who really wants to learn to do it right, just like Serving You, males have to give in and learn to do it right

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/30/2011 9:48:11 AM

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Wakes from hibernation.

Rubs eyes and stretches.

Crawls out of his den.

Reads this thread.

Realizes that the cold, harsh winter is still not over.

Climbs back into his den and goes back to sleep.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/30/2011 10:30:59 AM

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ROCHSUB!

Wake up, damnit, wake up! Spring has sprung!

It must have done, because I've started on the antihistamines.

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RE: Lack of male slaves - 3/30/2011 11:34:57 AM

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Oh, don't get me wrong LadyPact. I fully understand that some training could be useful. But in my experience, the types of people who think along the lines of "slave training" are going to be not very compatible with me. A person I'd be looking for would say something like, "Oh, I know how to clean the toys." not "I was trained to clean toys".

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