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ORIGINAL: Edwird

When was I 'running' when I got invited and invited myself into places that would have made chickenshits like you pee their pants?

"Your whole argument is stupid" -because you made it that way- , thanks for admitting it, at last, and I was responding someone trying to puff himself up in making it sound like anyone who went the natural course of things concerning home equity and every other way in pursuit of moving along in life "ran away" from whatever.

I never mentioned the word 'welfare,' but if you are trying to disavow that every check you got was from the government, forget it.

"When it costs more to fix a refrifgerator thann to replace getting a new one that is common sense."

When you can afford a better place to live and do so, it makes common sense. At least it does for almost everybody but you. Any of that is 'running away' according to you.

"You still drive that Toyota? Or were you drven by fear to get another one. "

That's your whole point, why are you asking me? I never said such a thing about car or living abode other than in parody of your ridiculous stance.

Good gosh you are dense.

And here are my taxes paying for your TV/internet bill.

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ORIGINAL: Gunslinger4hire

A submissive living near Gary, Indiana just sent me a message stating my profile picture is horrible and I should be banned from the website.

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This ignorant and in my view pathetic excuse of an American should learn from history as to what happens when a civilian population is disarmed. A good place is: Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership or jpfo dot org. Watch the documentary and learn about government murder due to gun registration then confiscation.

What disgusts me the most is where she lives (near Gary, Indiana and Chicago, Illinois two cities well known for gun violence due to gang activity and gun hating politicians. What a hypocrite.

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I love the Bill of Rights,

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my Republic, and the private ownership of firearms. That's the reason I put a picture of a firearm as my profile pic. I like women who like firearms, are patriotic, and have a basic foundation of American history.

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"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both house of Congress, January 8, 1790

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun be your constant companion of your walks."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Gun violence is a consequence of gun ownership. Period. The ready availability of
firearms is the single biggest predictor of gun violence. Period. Countries with low
rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of gun violence. Period.

In cuba everyone has a gun and ammo issued by the government
without your claimed corresponding level of gun violence . So it would seem your premise is
incorrect.

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I have not noticed any increase in your level of lazy or stupid.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Gunslinger4hire

A submissive living near Gary, Indiana just sent me a message stating my profile picture is horrible and I should be banned from the website.

So, like women do, you're whining about your fucking email. You fucking pussy.

Calling yourself "gunslinger" pretty much telegraphs that you live in a fucking fantasy world.

You know why American men are obsessed with guns? Because psychologically, they're addicted to them. Their entire sense of manhood is derived from possession of a firearm. Without it, they're weak and pathetic.

That's why you cling to it so desperately. You lack strength.

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This ignorant and in my view pathetic excuse of an American should learn from history as to what happens when a civilian population is disarmed. A good place is: Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership or jpfo dot org. Watch the documentary and learn about government murder due to gun registration then confiscation.

What disgusts me the most is where she lives (near Gary, Indiana and Chicago, Illinois two cities well known for gun violence due to gang activity and gun hating politicians. What a hypocrite.

Gun violence is a consequence of gun ownership. Period. The ready availability of firearms is the single biggest predictor of gun violence. Period. Countries with low rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of gun violence. Period.

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I love the Bill of Rights,

Really? Then off the top of your head, what's the fourteenth amendment?

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my Republic, and the private ownership of firearms. That's the reason I put a picture of a firearm as my profile pic. I like women who like firearms, are patriotic, and have a basic foundation of American history.

I will bet real money you don't know the first fucking thing about American history.

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"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both house of Congress, January 8, 1790

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun be your constant companion of your walks."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

Don't quote the founding fathers you fucking moron. They were dealing with muskets, not semi-automatic weapons which can murder a hundred people in two minutes.

Christ the trolls are getting lazier.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Gun violence is a consequence of gun ownership. Period. The ready availability of
firearms is the single biggest predictor of gun violence. Period. Countries with low
rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of gun violence. Period.

In cuba everyone has a gun and ammo issued by the government
without your claimed corresponding level of gun violence . So it would seem your premise is
incorrect.

No. They do not. This is what is known as "lying". With few exceptions only the military and the secret police are allowed to own firearms. Cuba has around half a million firearms distributed amongst a population of 88 million. There's roughly 1 registered firearm per 200 people. Private firearm ownership is regarded as suspicious by the Cuban people.

Consequently, gun crime is virtually unknown. Because the number of guns is extremely low. Thus, your Cuban example supports my point.

You are an idiot.

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I have not noticed any increase in your level of lazy or stupid.

Who cares. I've noticed that you're both lazier and stupider - as ably demonstrated by your inability to fact-check your response to me before you spouted it.

Fuck, talk about an own goal. Would you like to support my argument again? You're very good at it.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

whatever he said.....

Your argument is as rational as claiming that TV, radio, and the net are not protected by the 2nd becasuse they did not exist at the time.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Gun violence is a consequence of gun ownership. Period. The ready availability of
firearms is the single biggest predictor of gun violence. Period. Countries with low
rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of gun violence. Period.

In cuba everyone has a gun and ammo issued by the government
without your claimed corresponding level of gun violence . So it would seem your premise is
incorrect.

No. They do not. This is what is known as "lying". With few exceptions only the military and the secret police are allowed to own firearms. Cuba has around half a million firearms distributed amongst a population of 88 million. There's roughly 1 registered firearm per 200 people. Private firearm ownership is regarded as suspicious by the Cuban people.

Consequently, gun crime is virtually unknown. Because the number of guns is extremely low. Thus, your Cuban example supports my point.

You are an idiot.

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I have not noticed any increase in your level of lazy or stupid.

Who cares. I've noticed that you're both lazier and stupider - as ably demonstrated by your inability to fact-check your response to me before you spouted it.

Fuck, talk about an own goal. Would you like to support my argument again? You're very good at it.

And uprecedented increase in gun ownership in this country was matched by an unprecidented drop in crime.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Gun violence is a consequence of gun ownership. Period. The ready availability of
firearms is the single biggest predictor of gun violence. Period. Countries with low
rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of gun violence. Period.

In cuba everyone has a gun and ammo issued by the government
without your claimed corresponding level of gun violence . So it would seem your premise is
incorrect.

No. They do not. This is what is known as "lying". With few exceptions only the military and the secret police are allowed to own firearms. Cuba has around half a million firearms distributed amongst a population of 88 million. There's roughly 1 registered firearm per 200 people. Private firearm ownership is regarded as suspicious by the Cuban people.

Consequently, gun crime is virtually unknown. Because the number of guns is extremely low. Thus, your Cuban example supports my point.

You are an idiot.

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I have not noticed any increase in your level of lazy or stupid.

Who cares. I've noticed that you're both lazier and stupider - as ably demonstrated by your inability to fact-check your response to me before you spouted it.

Fuck, talk about an own goal. Would you like to support my argument again? You're very good at it.

And uprecedented increase in gun ownership in this country was matched by an unprecidented drop in crime.

No. Gun ownership increases violent crime - it does not prevent it. It doesn't even cause property crime to drop because - drum roll please - criminals bring weapons with them.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I didn't say that gun ownership automatically causes crime do decrease.
How ever the number of guns in private ownershipmdoubled from 1995 and crime cut in half.

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Every time concealed carry is passed crime drops.

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Clearly while it might be argued that the increase in guns does not cause crime to drop the stats clearly show that and increase in legally owned guns most assuredly cause an increase.

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If gun control stoped crime pre Heller DC would have been the safest place in the country along with Chicago. This was clearly not the case.

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In fact duringthe DC ban the murder rate in DC double with the intire increasebeing from weapons other than firearms.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I didn't say that gun ownership automatically causes crime do decrease.
How ever the number of guns in private ownershipmdoubled from 1995 and crime cut in half.

Even if you cite figures to show that - and I very much doubt you can - correlation does not imply causation. Crime has been dropping in many civilised societies.

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Every time concealed carry is passed crime drops.

No. It doesn't. Guns enable crime, they don't stop it.

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Clearly while it might be argued that the increase in guns does not cause crime to drop the stats clearly show that and increase in legally owned guns most assuredly cause an increase.

Yes, an increase in guns causes an increase in crime, particularly violent crime.

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If gun control stoped crime pre Heller DC would have been the safest place in the country along with Chicago. This was clearly not the case.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

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In fact duringthe DC ban the murder rate in DC double with the intire increasebeing from weapons other than firearms.

The crime rate in DC was influenced by the crack epidemic and it started to fall in the mid 90's due to increased gentrification. Crime tends to fall as lower socio-economic groups gain upward mobility. In general, crime is committed by an underclass. As more people migrate out of that underclass, crime naturally drops.

By the time of the Supreme Court's decision in Heller vs District of Columbia, crime rates in Washington had dropped to their lowest levels in more than 20 years. So your contention that the murder rate doubled is just flat out wrong. You're either lying or just making shit up, because no such thing actually happened.

Why is it that gun nuts are so comprehensively full of shit?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I didn't say that gun ownership automatically causes crime do decrease.
How ever the number of guns in private ownershipmdoubled from 1995 and crime cut in half.

Even if you cite figures to show that - and I very much doubt you can - correlation does not imply causation. Crime has been dropping in many civilised societies.

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Every time concealed carry is passed crime drops.

No. It doesn't. Guns enable crime, they don't stop it.

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Clearly while it might be argued that the increase in guns does not cause crime to drop the stats clearly show that and increase in legally owned guns most assuredly cause an increase.

Yes, an increase in guns causes an increase in crime, particularly violent crime.

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If gun control stoped crime pre Heller DC would have been the safest place in the country along with Chicago. This was clearly not the case.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

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In fact duringthe DC ban the murder rate in DC double with the intire increasebeing from weapons other than firearms.

The crime rate in DC was influenced by the crack epidemic and it started to fall in the mid 90's due to increased gentrification. Crime tends to fall as lower socio-economic groups gain upward mobility. In general, crime is committed by an underclass. As more people migrate out of that underclass, crime naturally drops.

By the time of the Supreme Court's decision in Heller vs District of Columbia, crime rates in Washington had dropped to their lowest levels in more than 20 years. So your contention that the murder rate doubled is just flat out wrong. You're either lying or just making shit up, because no such thing actually happened.

Why is it that gun nuts are so comprehensively full of shit?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness


Cuba has around half a million firearms distributed amongst a population of 88 millon.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I didn't say that gun ownership automatically causes crime do decrease.
How ever the number of guns in private ownershipmdoubled from 1995 and crime cut in half.

Even if you cite figures to show that - and I very much doubt you can - correlation does not imply causation. Crime has been dropping in many civilised societies.

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Every time concealed carry is passed crime drops.

No. It doesn't. Guns enable crime, they don't stop it.

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Clearly while it might be argued that the increase in guns does not cause crime to drop the stats clearly show that and increase in legally owned guns most assuredly cause an increase.

Yes, an increase in guns causes an increase in crime, particularly violent crime.

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If gun control stoped crime pre Heller DC would have been the safest place in the country along with Chicago. This was clearly not the case.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

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In fact duringthe DC ban the murder rate in DC double with the intire increasebeing from weapons other than firearms.

The crime rate in DC was influenced by the crack epidemic and it started to fall in the mid 90's due to increased gentrification. Crime tends to fall as lower socio-economic groups gain upward mobility. In general, crime is committed by an underclass. As more people migrate out of that underclass, crime naturally drops.

By the time of the Supreme Court's decision in Heller vs District of Columbia, crime rates in Washington had dropped to their lowest levels in more than 20 years. So your contention that the murder rate doubled is just flat out wrong. You're either lying or just making shit up, because no such thing actually happened.

Why is it that gun nuts are so comprehensively full of shit?

It takes an extreme amout of gall to come on here and make claims that contradict the facts the demand a cite from anyone who disagrees with you all the while providing no cites yourself. provide sites and not from someone like the Brady bunch who admitted to lying.

BTW

Bringing crime back to the 88 level, after most of the DC crime increse had completed most of it's growth when that is about the time the nation peaked out on it's crime level isn't that much of an accomplishment, now is it. It was, like Chicago one of the most dangerous places in the country.