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Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 3:14:41 PM   
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You see it all the time. Straight people hating gY people. Gay people hearing them back. Lesbians not accepting m2f lesbian transgenders.transgenders stuck in the middle of it all. And what's wrong wth a m2f choosing to be a lesbian after their surgery?

It seems that of all the LGBTQ community are the outcasts, people thinking they're only they're only in it for the sex.

Please lend your thoughts about the way transgenders are treated even by the LGBTQ community,
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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 3:17:48 PM   
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welcome to the world of the "puritan pervert"

Nothing is as big a hypocrite as the bdsm scene.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 4:22:40 PM   
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Good heavens - you really need to decide exactly who or what community you are trying to get people to hate.
I've been doing this over ten years and can't say that I have ever seen anyone abused because of their sexual orientation. Kicked out, avoided, banned because of their actions or personality, but not their sexual orientation.
I think you should stop trying to cause trouble online and read a good book.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 6:40:34 PM   
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I don't know what is the complain about.
Of course lesbians won't want M2F who are into Females, as Lesbians are into biological Females. No matter what, they will see you as a male, no matter how much you want to market yourself as a Female. Or want to be accepted as a Female, because you are biologically male.

The moment you choose to change your gender surgically, you already know that, that will drastically reduce your ability to find a relationship as transgenders are neither here nor there. They are neither 100% Female or 100% Male.

So why not date other M2Fs? And stick to those? Why are you going after biological women?

I mean, even M2F who are into males, will find it difficult to find men who will accept them right as Females right? Most men also prefer biological Females.

And in the BDSM community, I don't really see a Prejudice. Because it's like, I won't mess around with a Sadist for example, because I am not into it.

Lesbians won't mess around you because they aren't into transgenders.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:26:26 PM   
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I don't know what is the complain about.
Of course lesbians won't want M2F who are into Females, as Lesbians are into biological Females. No matter what, they will see you as a male, no matter how much you want to market yourself as a Female. Or want to be accepted as a Female, because you are biologically male.

The moment you choose to change your gender surgically, you already know that, that will drastically reduce your ability to find a relationship as transgenders are neither here nor there. They are neither 100% Female or 100% Male.

So why not date other M2Fs? And stick to those? Why are you going after biological women?

I mean, even M2F who are into males, will find it difficult to find men who will accept them right as Females right? Most men also prefer biological Females.

And in the BDSM community, I don't really see a Prejudice. Because it's like, I won't mess around with a Sadist for example, because I am not into it.

Lesbians won't mess around you because they aren't into transgenders.


Uh huh,and it would really take some kind of pervert to want to date a transgender,eh?

No period drama, less emotional bullshit. They might even know how to fix something.

Or even feel devotion towards someone who accepts them.

That would be awful.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:47:20 PM   
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Uh huh,and it would really take some kind of pervert to want to date a transgender,eh?

No period drama, less emotional bullshit. They might even know how to fix something.

Or even feel devotion towards someone who accepts them.

That would be awful.

No NoirMetal. It is ridiculous for Transgender to WANT a Lesbian to date them. Because Lesbians are only into biological women. Most Lesbians are Lesbians because they do not like Males. So if Male decided to change himself into a Female. He still got traces of "Maleness" in him/her. Biologically inside, he is still male. Spiritually he may see himself as Female, but reality is, biologically , he is male.

Why would a Lesbian want a non-pure blooded Female? Why should they be forced to accept or date them?

End of the day, if a male want call himself a Female, that's his choice. But if he wants people to accept him as a Female, that's unreasonable! Because he is not biological Female.

Just like it is ridiculous for Gay men to want Straight Men to date them!

Since we now have 59 different gender identities to CHOOSE FROM, and chances are 58 of those gender identities are NOT OUR TYPE!

Biological Gendered People are usually not into Transgenders, and that is okay! Why are you guys forcing them to be into them?

It's like forcing Straight Men to date Gay Men instead of Women. And then Gay Men crying about Straight Men being prejudiced against them.


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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:51:01 PM   
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quote:

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Uh huh,and it would really take some kind of pervert to want to date a transgender,eh?

No period drama, less emotional bullshit. They might even know how to fix something.

Or even feel devotion towards someone who accepts them.

That would be awful.

No NoirMetal. It is ridiculous for Transgender to WANT a Lesbian to date them. Because Lesbians are only into biological women.

Just like it is ridiculous for Gay men to want Straight Men to date them!

Since we now have 59 different gender identities.

Biological Gendered People are not into Transgenders, and that is okay!

Anyone can date anyone else of legal age they find to be attractive.

You thinking a thing is so, does not make it so. You have no idea of the degree of diversity I have seen in real life.

You exist in a fantasy world online.

You do not know reality just from that..



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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:54:44 PM   
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Anyone can date anyone else of legal age they find to be attractive.

You thinking a thing is so, does not make it so. You have no idea of the degree of diversity I have seen in real life.

You exist in a fantasy world online.

You do not know reality just from that..



This transgender is crying about being unable to get Lesbians to DATE HER. So I am explaining to her WHY she needs to stop thinking that Lesbians are obligated to date her.

So In HER REALITY, she can't get Lesbians to date her!

Who are you to say her Reality is WRONG?

Trying to get a Lesbian to Date A transgender is like trying to get a Straight Man to date a Gay Man.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:56:00 PM   
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Anyone can date anyone else of legal age they find to be attractive.

You thinking a thing is so, does not make it so. You have no idea of the degree of diversity I have seen in real life.

You exist in a fantasy world online.

You do not know reality just from that..



This transgender is crying about being unable to get Lesbians to DATE HER. So I am explaining to her WHY she needs to stop thinking that Lesbians are obligated to date her.


Maybe some lesbians will come and explain it.

I don't think our input is terribly valid in light of the original question.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:57:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal
Anyone can date anyone else of legal age they find to be attractive.

You thinking a thing is so, does not make it so. You have no idea of the degree of diversity I have seen in real life.

You exist in a fantasy world online.

You do not know reality just from that..



This transgender is crying about being unable to get Lesbians to DATE HER. So I am explaining to her WHY she needs to stop thinking that Lesbians are obligated to date her.

So In HER REALITY, she can't get Lesbians to date her!

Who are you to say her Reality is WRONG?



And I am saying YOUR sense of reality seems a bit out of whack-not hers.

I thought castle realm was dead now?


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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:58:20 PM   
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I don't know what is the complain about.

The OP's complaint isn't really about LGBTQ people being excluded from the "lifestyle", it's just another thread about how nobody wants them. Their issue isn't that they're LGBTQ, it's that they have over a decade worth of history here illustrating some horrifically unattractive personal traits and a self-reported history of mental illness, and no clear plan or desire to deal with either. To paraphrase Wade Wilson; their life is a shit show, like Yakov Smirnoff opening for Spin Doctors at the Iowa State Fair kind of shit show. And nobody is lining up for a ticket to that shit show.

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Lesbians won't mess around you because they aren't into transgenders.

I question your knowledge of lesbian women. I suspect it's on par with your knowledge of standard female genital anatomy.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:58:54 PM   
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And I am saying YOUR sense of reality seems a bit out of whack-not hers.

I thought castle realm was dead now?


My reality is that Lesbians do not date transgendered M2F.

The OP is reflecting my reality.

You are in denial if you think Lesbians will date a Transgendered M2F.

In every scenario, there may be exceptions, but a Transgendered M2F trying to find a biological woman to be her Lesbian girlfriend is gonna be very very tough and long road.

THAT IS REALITY.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 7:59:28 PM   
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Trying to get a Lesbian to Date A transgender is like trying to get a Straight Man to date a Gay Man.

Yup, you're still an idiot.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:01:23 PM   
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I don't know what is the complain about.

The OP's complaint isn't really about LGBTQ people being excluded from the "lifestyle", it's just another thread about how nobody wants them.

OP is complaining that Lesbian women would not date her because she is Transgendered. She put alot of emphasis on Lesbian women.

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I question your knowledge of lesbian women. I suspect it's on par with your knowledge of standard female genital anatomy.


Considering I have plenty of Lesbian girlfriends. I went to an ALL Girls school. Lesbianism is major in All Female Schools. I know ALL of them won't touch a Transgendered Female no matter what, as they don't recognize them as Females but still consider them Males. They aren't into Males.

They would date a Transgendered F2M, but not a M2F. Because they tend to radiate towards biological Females. The whole point of Lesbianism is NOT INTO MEN! Ya know that right?

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:03:19 PM   
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Trying to get a Lesbian to Date A transgender is like trying to get a Straight Man to date a Gay Man.

Yup, you're still an idiot.

And you guys are just falsifying bullshit that majority of Lesbians will date Transgendered M2F.

When in reality, you know this is not true! And you are blatantly lying in the name of political correctness.

I am simply talking hard truth.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:05:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I don't know what is the complain about.

The OP's complaint isn't really about LGBTQ people being excluded from the "lifestyle", it's just another thread about how nobody wants them. Their issue isn't that they're LGBTQ, it's that they have over a decade worth of history here illustrating some horrifically unattractive personal traits and a self-reported history of mental illness, and no clear plan or desire to deal with either. To paraphrase Wade Wilson; their life is a shit show, like Yakov Smirnoff opening for Spin Doctors at the Iowa State Fair kind of shit show. And nobody is lining up for a ticket to that shit show.

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Lesbians won't mess around you because they aren't into transgenders.

I question your knowledge of lesbian women. I suspect it's on par with your knowledge of standard female genital anatomy.

I know some pretty well adjusted transgenders who are very fun people. Emotionally stable, self aware, don't get their world view from shades of grey or castle realm. Sometimes I see these long long fantasy lists of ideal Dom attributes from bottom women in profiles,who expect perfection from the fantasy top...Yet don't expect to have to work on the imperfections they have. Usually combined with some virulent pink back ground.

Fucking bitches give me a migraine even glancing at that shit. That matches my idea of a *basket case.*

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:09:01 PM   
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I know some pretty well adjusted transgenders who are very fun people. Emotionally stable, self aware, don't get their world view from shades of grey or castle realm. Sometimes I see these long long fantasy lists of ideal Dom attributes from bottom women in profiles,who expect perfection from the fantasy top...Yet don't expect to have to work on the imperfections they have. Usually combined with some virulent pink back ground.

Fucking bitches give me a migraine even glancing at that shit. That matches my idea of a *basket case.*

You are in soo much denial, it's unbelievable.

First of all. Being Lesbian HAS NOTHING to do with 50 shades of grey.

Lesbianism is a Vanilla thing too. And has ZERO to do with BDSM to start with.

Who is the one living in fantasy here?

You don't even know the meaning of the word "Lesbian!"

And your reaction is showing your unstability.

I never said once that Transgendered were emotionally unstable.

You clearly are emotional unstable so you project that onto Transgendered people yourself.

I simply say that Transgendered M2F are not biological Females. And most Lesbians are into biological Female.

It's a "gender orientation" thing. If you are into Females. Doesn't matter if a Male transform into a Female. You won't be into him even after she transformed into HER.



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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:10:47 PM   
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I know some pretty well adjusted transgenders who are very fun people. Emotionally stable, self aware, don't get their world view from shades of grey or castle realm. Sometimes I see these long long fantasy lists of ideal Dom attributes from bottom women in profiles,who expect perfection from the fantasy top...Yet don't expect to have to work on the imperfections they have. Usually combined with some virulent pink back ground.

Fucking bitches give me a migraine even glancing at that shit. That matches my idea of a *basket case.*

You are in soo much denial, it's unbelievable.

First of all. Being Lesbian HAS NOTHING to do with 50 shades of grey.

Lesbianism is a Vanilla thing too. And has ZERO to do with BDSM to start with.

Who is the one living in fantasy here?

You don't even know the meaning of the word "Lesbian!"



You made me agree with Stef.

You are a magical creature Greta.

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:10:51 PM   
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Considering I have plenty of Lesbian girlfriends. I know ALL of them won't touch a Transgendered Female no matter what, as they don't recognize them as Females but still consider them Males. They aren't into Males.

This shouldn't come as a shock to you at this point in time, but here it is. People who think like you are outliers, if they even exist at all. Assuming they're not figments of your incredibly active imagination like much of the nonsense you post, I'm sure you've had in depth conversations with your "lesbian girlfriends" about how they view trans women. It probably comes up all the time.

Do they all pee out of their vaginas too?

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They would date a Transgendered F2M, but not a M2F. Because they tend to radiate towards biological Females.

I'm sure that would really endear them to trans men to know your "lesbian girlfriends" didn't view them as men. I'm sure they would be lining up to date such women..

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RE: Prejudice in the lifestyle. - 5/1/2017 8:11:59 PM   
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And you guys are just falsifying bullshit that majority of Lesbians will date Transgendered M2F.

Please show me where I said that. I'll wait.

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