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...and they did it without firearms.
Imagine.

Both sides in Charlottesville had firearms. You are only blaming one side.
Imagine.

You're surprised counter-protestors showed up to an armed protest with arms?
Isn't that sanity 101?

You're too intelligent to act that stupid.

Both sides had firearms. You're only blaming one side.

Neither of those two statements says I was surprised counter-protesters showed up.

Why will you not acknowledge that both sides are to blame for the violence?

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A so-called "free speech" rally in Boston today organized by the radical right had city officials concerned all week, especially after Charlottesville. In the end there were more cops than the 100 or so protestors who showed up.

Counter protestors? 20,000 strong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boston-rally_us_59963564e4b0e8cc855cbb42

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Nothing screams, "we're really just against Nazis" like flinging bottles filled with urine at police, and burning the flag that defeated Nazism. At a 'free speech' event in Boston over the weekend -- at which counter-protesters vastly outnumbered actual demonstrators, some unclear percentage of whom showed up to espouse detestable views -- things got ugly. While an overwhelming majority of the anti-racism/anti-Alt-Right contingent conducted itself peacefully, the Antifa faction was not, and they were literally cheered on by some sympathizers. Even after the original protesters had reportedly gone home, the Antifa types did what they set out to do. They exist to sow violence and chaos. They do not exist to oppose "fascism:"

CBS NEWS: Boston Police Commissioner confirms bottles filled with urine were thrown at officers during protest. pic.twitter.com/hZ9m9b6AyM
— Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) August 19, 2017

#UPDATE: #BPD confirming rocks being thrown at officers on Tremont at West.
— Boston Police Dept. (@bostonpolice) August 19, 2017

It's turned violent in Boston. Heavy clashes between counter-protesters and police. pic.twitter.com/6xgNG0Gl1A
— Joel Gunter (@joelmgunter) August 19, 2017

Police officers were also subjected to nasty verbal attacks, both in Boston and elsewhere. This is protected speech that's preferable to physical violence, of course, but it's a dreadful way to treat those trying to maintain the peace:

"You stupid ass black bitch! You're supposed to be on our side!" - that's what this protester screamed in the face of a black police officer https://t.co/w1ko436US4
— Peter J. Hasson (@peterjhasson) August 20, 2017

#KCMO Police Chief Rick Smith briefly showed up, part of the group chanted "oink oink, bang bang." pic.twitter.com/yyRhL9DtZr
— Molly Balkenbush (@MollyFox4KC) August 20, 2017

Why highlight these examples? Isn't showcasing the very worst behavior of a Lefty strain needlessly divisive? Doesn't it fuel discord and foster a distorted sense of what is really going on in this country? Yes. As I've written before, the dreadful actions of extreme political elements ought not be exploited to smear entire political parties or movements in America. This applies to the Left and Right; to Democrats and Republicans. I go out of my way to attempt consistency on this point. What is a source of continuing frustration, however, is the double standard to which one political coalition is disproportionately subjected by the media. When Alt-Righters rear their ugly heads, the press affords them precisely what they want: Coverage and oxygen. Republicans, in turn, denounce the Alt-Right's bigotry (yes, Trump makes all of this much harder than it should be) and its culpability in violent clashes, including murder. Much of the media declares that any discussion of America's political violence problem must not entail the Left's substantial contributions to it, lest anyone be guilty of engaging in "equivalency" or "whataboutism." Then they also write insane, whitewashing headlines about left-wing anarchists' tactics. They publish columns feeding the liberal narrative that this is a one-sided issue, and that those who say otherwise are amoral or delusional. And in some cases, they outright excuse and defend violence:


Dartmouth prof defends Antifa: It’s just self-defense against Nazis https://t.co/YJopoOX5Hg pic.twitter.com/ru0INXdghk
— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) August 20, 2017

If we have decided to shine a spotlight on the vilest segments of our society, and to demand that reputable people within their respective crudely-defined "tribes" denounce and reject them, the blame and opprobrium cannot only flow in one direction. So long as elite tastemakers insist upon this unjust dichotomy, I'm going to keep calling it out. I'll repeat:

In a national conversation on escalating political violence, noting left-wing contributions to it isn't "whataboutism."

It's *aboutism.*
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) August 16, 2017

Parting thoughts: Many people who are invested in solutions, rather than conflict, want to know how we can help salve these national wounds. A few suggestions come to mind, including encouraging our leaders to tell the truth and talk to the American people like adults. Here is what that looks like. Another positive step is to approach people of good faith who don't share one's worldview (as opposed to to white supremacists and Antifa thugs) with some degree of humility and fairness. For instance:

Ppl wondering why I take pains to differentiate BLM from antifa, & why I defend BLM's core mission, read this: https://t.co/9gd7NpdG0x
— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) August 20, 2017

I want that to be crystal clear. BLM marshals were *preventing* fights from breaking out. 5/
— Tim Pierce (@qwrrty) August 19, 2017

This is Imani, from CT. She just escorted Trump supporters through a crowd as a situation escalated. Here's why in her words: pic.twitter.com/R8W7XN58jk
— Steve Annear (@steveannear) August 19, 2017

Finally, sometimes the best way to address pathetic evil is to ridicule it. This is so much more effective and biting than tossing a molotov cocktail or shouting obscenities at public safety officers:

Tubas trolling Nazis with cartoon music is my new favorite thing. pic.twitter.com/R5PsRt9ps7
— Chris Sacca (@sacca) August 19, 2017

More tuba, please.

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an overwhelming majority of the anti-racism/anti-Alt-Right contingent conducted itself peacefully,

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You only called out the Left[ists]. You continually only call out the Left. I'm not sure if you've ever called out the Right on these boards. Emotionally shouting down or over people is seeking to stop them from speaking.

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Why is that part so difficult for you to accept?

Be against the violence, sure, and stop trying to pretend it's rampant. It isn't.

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hang on---violence from the left isn't rampant??

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hang on---violence from the left isn't rampant??

From a relatively far left source: Yeah - it's rampant.

The Rise of the Violent Left

Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

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hang on---violence from the left isn't rampant??

From a relatively far left source: Yeah - it's rampant.

The Rise of the Violent Left

Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

Didn't read the article, but wow. If the Atlantic is finally catching on that means the kool aid served to the left is getting thin. It also appears that this particular method being used to energize the base for the 2018 election may have peaked too soon.

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Be against the violence, sure, and stop trying to pretend it's rampant. It isn't.

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There is an email currently circulating around that contains a LONG list of examples of liberal violence from the last few months. We’re not just talking about a liberal getting into a bar fight, we’re talking about liberals using violence for political purposes. It’s a specific kind of violence, a violence meant to force their political opponents to cower in fear and silence.

It makes the liberal concerns about the attack on conservatives this past Wednesday ring hollow. The truth is that liberal cultural leaders have been all too happy to use violent rhetoric and powerfully aggressive commentary to decry conservatives. They’ve called us evil, fascists, Nazis, racists, hatemongers, etc… how do they expect their followers to respond? If we truly are these evil, hateful things, why wouldn’t violence to stop us from “destroying the planet,” be an acceptable response?

Here are a few examples of the rampant and continuing liberal violence against conservatives:

[at the actual site, these are all links]

VIDEO: White Antifa members calls black man Uncle Tom

VIDEO: White Antifa gets in black mans face after black man tries to have civil conversation. White man punches black man, black man takes white Antifa man down

VIDEO:Antifa throws urine on counter protestors in NYC

VIDEO in link: Gavin Mcinnes event interrupted by Antifa violence, four Antifa arrested

VIDEO: Antifa vandalize truck, rip US flag and Blue Lives Matter flags off, burn them

VIDEO: Ethics Professor Eric Clanton (member of Antifa) Smashes bike lock over mans head. Now facing multiple felony charges


Antifa’s threats of violence shut down Rose Parade after 81 successful years

VIDEO: ANTIFA riot in Portland on May Day

PHOTO:Mug Shots of ANTIFA rioters after their May Day riot where they destroyed public/private property

Portland police report being attacked by counter protesters (Antifa) with bricks, bottles, etc at Portlands freedom of speech rally. Confiscate numerous weapons from left wing counter Protestors.

Exceptional article on Antifa and left-wing violence by Ian Tuttle for National Review. The last line: “The Antifa ideology can only produce enemies

VIDEO:Man gets attacked at anti-Sharia protest by Antifa

Antifa Chick dude hits police horse with flag pole with nail attached to it in neck. Mug shot

UT frats vandalized by itsgoingdown. Vandals want to start a conversation about rape culture

“Racist” and “rapist” sprayed on UT frat houses in new spat of graffiti

“The self-professed “Vandals of UT” say they are responding to no specific incident but “the everyday crisis that is rape culture, white supremacy, and elitism.” Their goal is “the destruction, looting, and emptying out of these halls of power by the force of the unruly masses—the excluded and exploited,” adding that they hope to “inspire other insurgent acts.”

Fraternity member stabbed to death, three other wounded after the stuff posted above

Miami_JBT Thread covering BLM

Video: Woman with MAGA hat gets maced by Antifa clown after she says she supports the nonviolent protestors

Protesters at Berkeley light fires, hurl rocks and fireworks at police, smash windows of student center, and cause the campus to lock down due to Milo speaking

Video: Woman at Berkeley gets hit over the head repeatedly with object, someone gets knocked out by anti-Milo rioters

Video: Anti-Milo rioters chase attendees and beat them, another one ends up unconscious, nearly to death

Occupy Oakland Tweets they won at Berkeley

AR15 member at protests and takes pictures of the aftermath

Organizer of Milo protest pleased with the level of violence, calls for a violent uprising against Trump and Trump supporters VIDEO in link

Berkeley Republicans still receiving threats from ANTIFA after Milo riot

The Daily Californian defends violence at Berkeley, check your privilege, the violence protected students…

Woman’s March protester collapses, Trump Hotel worker rushes to aid her with AED, gets booed by crowd for working at Trump hotel while trying to render aid to one of the dumb ####s

VIDEO: Peaceful protester at woman’s march lights Trump supporters hair on fire

VIDEO: Woman on plane berates a Trump supporter, demands for him to be moved, gets booted off the plane and passengers applaud her removal

VIDEO: Trump supporter does civic duty extinguishing flames rioters set, appeals for peace, gets punched in the face, property stolen

Ashley Judd gives disgusting speech insinuating Trump is a pedophile and dreams of incest

Madonna thinks about blowing up the White House, talks about Revolution of Love, then tells detractors “#### you.”

217 arrested, 6 cops injured

Lots of pics inside of damaged vehicles, “pigs” spray painted on Army truck, Fox News vehicle smashed, protestors pits in cops face, limo on fire, embers thrown at police

Pete Blackburn Tweets Barron Trump has killed no less than 100 small animals

SNL writer Tweets “Barron will be the first homeschool shooter”

Protesters light fire in street, throw embers at cops, and destroy a limo

Video:Protesters block checkpoints and people’s freedom of movement- Airmen blocked from attendance while in uniform

Eight inaugural meltdowns from retarded press

Anti-Trump protestors vandalize DC, video inside

CNN discusses Trump assassination to keep Obama in power

Violence at the Deploraball: assault, eggs thrown, batteries thrown, and theft of property

They start ’em young: chunky left-wing kid starts fire, brags to media about it, then says “screw our President.” Little #### is so dumb he doesn’t realize Obama is still president

11Year Old Put in Crutches For Supporting Trump

Die Whites Die

Man Beaten for Voting Trump

Protesters of a Trump Victory Destroy property in Oakland

San Jose Trump Supporters have clothes ripped off, punched

Eggs, Bottles, and punches

The Occupy movement has a horrific record of violence. Occupy Wall Street Exposed has counted a dozen deaths, including three murders; more than a dozen rapes; more than 25 disgusting cases of indecent exposure, public defecation, etc; more than 500 thefts; more than 6,800 arrests; and in excess of $12 million in property damage. A sorry record by any standard.

Sophomore gets viciously beat up after Trump win for supporting Trump

Two men attack another man for holding Trump sign on 12NOV2016

Arson and vandalism of Trump supporter’s home

Video of Oregon protesters smashing a jeer, spray painting it

Man with MAGA hat gets choked on NYC subway

MD HS student assaulted for saying he likes Trump

Scott Baio attacked by Nancy Mack at Elementary school function over his support for Trump

TJ Miller arrested for slapping Uber driver over Trump

San Jose PD release mug shots and charges against anti-Trump protesters- three are charged with assault with a deadly weapon

Four Animals kidnap guy, beat him while shouting “#### Donald Trump” (not confirmed if victim is Trump supporter) and appear to scalp him. Hate crime, but victim is white so don’t hold your breath

Our own member caught a twitter user wanting/wishing someone to assassinate Trump

HS student at Milo event beat, paint thrown on him, hat stolen

The violence extends to Canada! Woman’s March in Edmonton female reporter gets harassed and punched in face by anti-Trump male, feminists protect HIM and victim blame the female reporter. She does a post commentary and humiliates the woman abuser

Trump supporter has ear bitten off, fingers twisted by anti-Trump roommate

Kellyanne Conway gets white powder sent in mail multiple times now under USSS protection

Man has Trump signs messed with thrice. One would be thief and his #### stain friend push homeowner to ground after attempting to steal from him

Two police officers injured at Chicago Trump rally, sent to hospital. Trump cancels over safety concerns

Teacher pretends to shoot image of Trump in front of class

VIDEO: Pro-Trump counter protestor gets knocked out and suffers concussion after being hit in the head three times by a metal object in Oregon

Antifa harass and assault Gavin McIness speech attendees, try to shut down him speaking- Video inside

12 Y/O gets attacked on school bus for wearing MAGA hat, then gets suspended. Politically motivated

Black Supremacist murders five Dallas police officers, manifesto says he wanted to kill whites

Anti-Trump protesters block ambulance with critically ill man in back. Cops try to remove man blocking ambulance. Man pushes cop, gets arrested and EMTs are forced to perform life saving procedure in Ambulance and not at hospital

Leftist group at UCF holds fight club open to everyone one but Republicans because they’re the target

Cal State Professor assaults Republican student

Shia Labeouf arrested and charged with assault at his anti-Trump protest

Pro-choice woman arrested after shoving wet, used tampon in mouth of pro-life activist

ICE protestor throws fireworks in ICE patrol car, sets it on fire, gets arrested. Austin, TX

71 Y/O female staffer of Rep. Rohrbacher (R) knocked unconscious by ATI-Trump protestors at his congressional office

VIDEO: Man pulls MSR on another man with Trump flag, threatens him

North Carolina GOP offices fire bombed during 2016 election

Protesters turn violent with police at #notmypresident rally in Portland. Over a dozen arrested

College protesters send lecturer/professor to ER

ANTIFA arrests following violent protests in Portland

Man shoves dollars down Republican Congressmans collar at town hall

Kathy Griffin poses with bloody, decapitated head of Trump

Shakespeare in the Park in NYC does Julius Caesar, Trump gets stabbed by senators

College Female attacked by male for wearing MAGA Hat

Republican Majority Whip survives attempted assassination attempt

Gay Trump Supporters kicked out of gay pride event for liking Trump

Penzey’s Spice maker CEO say Trump voters must be punished, are racist

Woman creates boycott list of business’ that MAY have supported Trump in Pittsburgh

Business refuses service to Republicans/ Trump supporters

“There will be casualties on both sides. There will be, because people have to die to make a change in this world”

Twitter explodes with Trump Assassination fantasies

Grubhub to Trump Supporter employees-resign

Mother commits child abuse over son liking Trump

Secession plans for Oregon and California due to Trump

Democratic strategist Symone Sanders mocks Chicago guy beat up for supporting Trump

Hollywood writer of Raging Bull/Taxi Driver calls for violence and to arm against Trump

25 DEC 2016: Drexel professor tweets “all I want for Christmas is white genocide.”

26 DEC 2016: Chris Kluwe, former Vikings Punter, writes a letter “#### Donald…#### his family…#### his supporters…”

MTV New Years Resolution for white Guys

University of Wisconsin African-American studies course 405 “The Problem with Whiteness”

Hawaii cafe bans Trump supporter

Georgetown University professor has month long social media melt down against old colleague who voted Trump calling her all sorts of names

HIV+ Charlie Sheen takes to Twitter after Debbie Reynolds death and pleads to God for Trump to be next

Leftist slander Milo, Chicago Review of Books bans Simon and Schuster from their reviews due to them publishing his semi-autobiography (they reveal they hate the 1st amendment and facts)

Senator McCaskill has a sexist message for men

University of Wisconsin offers classes teaching the negatives of Masculinity

Multiple left-wing news personalities dismiss a clearly racist angle about a white man kidnapped and tortured by four black perps

Feminist calls for the killing of all males and male babies

CEO of TimeShareCMO slams middle America (Trump supporters) saying “no educated person wants to live in a ####hole with stupid people” then begins to accuse them of being bigots and misogynistic with #### schools

Left-wingers slam Jeff Sessions for holding Asian toddler before his senate hearing. One says the girl is a prop stolen from Toys ‘r Us. Turns out it’s his biological granddaughter

Joss Whedon (Hollywood director) wants Paul Ryan to be ####ed to death by a rhino

DisruptJ20: organized hate against the attendees of the inauguration and the inauguration itself

Ivanka Trump harassed on plane by liberal professor

Rosie O’Donnell insidiously suggests Baron Trump has autism, forced to apologize later

Comedy Central writer Stephan Spinola tweets “Barron Trump looks like a date rapist to be.” And talks about Barron raping his mother

Chelsea Handler: FLOTUS can’t come on my show because she barely speaks English

USSS investigates burlesque dancer for Trump assassination tweet

DNC Chair candidate bashes white people in forum

Screen Shot:Another Anti-Trumper who happens to be a criminal posts on FB #### about Barron Trump, incest/pedo Bull####

Three turds threaten to shoot man over front yard Trump sign

20 y/o BU student is so smart she posted video of her stealing Trump signs, gets busted

CEO of Magnatone Amps Ted Kornblum tweets trump will get a bullet to the head

Times reporter (UK paper) tweets about assassinating Trump

German newspaper editor writes of murder in the White House

Video: BLM activist preschool teacher calls for whites to hand over their money and houses and wants to kill white people and the white house

GQ: white people need to be better

Sarah Silverman calls for military coup against Trump

Ex-Obama official suggests military coup against Trump

VIDEO: Liberal professor screams at NYPD calling them all sorts of names for protecting Gavin McInnes and his attendees

12,000 Tweets calling for Trump assassination

VIDEO: BLM chants “pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon”

White Antifa call black heckler “Uncle Tom”

Republican law makers see growing hostility, one had to be given police escort out of town hall meeting

Tennessee Teacher fired for Facebook rant: ” only good Trump supporter is a dead Trump supporter”

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos blocked by protesters from entering school and from leaving. One jumps on vehicle

BLM leader says whites are sub human

Joy Villa gets death threats, called a “coon” and “Uncle Tom” for wearing MAGA dress to Grammy awards

Secretary DeVos under US Marshall protection due to too many threats

College Students shut down lecture on anti-police violence

Sec. Ed. DeVos receives more death threats than any other one before with a security cost of 8 million thus far

Maine Democrats laugh at rising rates of white suicide

VIDEO: California Democrat Chair leads Democrats with “#### Trump” and middle fingers before the head of the DNC, Tom Perez, speaks. Also calls out a protester being a #### disturber while encouraging democrats to protest republicans

Republicans facing death threats, have their dead children mocked, and get boos for saying rights come from God

Ken Jennings from Jeopardy mocks Barron Trump over his reaction of seeing Kathy Griffin holding decapitated Trump head covered in blood

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•Hollywood Actor Mark Ruffalo calls on NBC News to "cease hiring white conservatives."

•"Knights for Socialism" group at a Florida University teaches students how to "fight the fascists."

•Anti-Trump "resistance" leaders say they want to "Make America Ungovernable," call for "direct action" tactics against Republicans.

•Kathy Griffin's photoshoot depicting President Trump's severed head.

•Charlie Sheen wishes death on Donald Trump, tweeting, “Dear God; Trump next, please! Trump next, please!" following the death of actress Carrie Fisher.

•President Trump murdered in musician Marilyn Manson's music video.

•Katie Tur insinuates Donald Trump will begin killing journalists on MSNBC, saying “Donald Trump has made no secret about going after journalists"

•Unhinged NYU professor calls on students to attack conservative speaker Gavin McInnes, calls his supporters "Nazis."

•Rachel Maddow says Donald Trump wants to murder journalists.

•Comedian Jim Carrey supports Kathy Griffin's photoshoot, says he dreams of killing President Trump.

•Madonna says she wants to "blow up the White House" during a speech.

•Black Lives Matter say they want to "fry cops like bacon" during a rally in Minnesota.

•President Obama urges liberal activists to, "Get in their faces."

•Actor Mickey Rourke goes on anti-Trump rant, says "F*** him, F*** the horse he rode in on, his wife's one of the biggest gold-diggers I know."

•Rapper Big Sean raps about murdering Donald Trump with an icepick.

•Late-Night host Stephen Colbert goes on anti-Trump tirade, calls him "Vladimir Putin's c***-holster."

•Comedian Bill Maher jokes about Trump family incest.

•Rapper Snoop Dogg stages phony execution of 'clown' Donald Trump.

•NBC and New York Times contributor Malcolm Nance calls on ISIS to suicide-bomb Trump-owned properties.

•NYC Theater group stages performance of 'Julius Caesar,' showing the savage stabbing-death of 'Donald Trump.'

•Protesters in Philadelphia chant "Kill Trump - Kill Pence" during May Day demonstrations.

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1) "Michele (Bachmann), slit your wrist. Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing [sic]. Move that knife up about two feet. Start right at the collarbone." -- Montel Williams

2) “F*ck that dude. I’ll smack that f*cker’s comb-over right off his f*cking scalp. Like, for real, if I met Donald Trump, I’d punch him in his f*cking face. And that’s not a joke. Even if he did become president — watch out, Donald Trump, because I will punch you in your f*cking face if I ever meet you. Secret Service had better just f*cking be on it. Don’t let me anywhere within a block.”– Rapper Everlast on Donald Trump

3) “I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow….I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” — Bill Maher

4) “I know how the ‘tea party’ people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health-care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their “Obama Plan White Slavery” signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads.” — The Washington Post’s Courtland Milloy

5) “F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead.” — Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.

6) “Are you angry? [Yeah!] Are you angry? [Yeah!] Are you angry? [Yeah!] Well, we’ve been watching intifada in Palestine, we’ve been watching an uprising in Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don’t have an intifada in this country? Because it seems to me, that we are comfortable in where we are, watching CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox, and all these mainstream… giving us a window to the world while the world is being managed from Washington, from New York, from every other place in here in San Francisco: Chevron, Bechtel, [Carlyle?] Group, Halliburton; every one of those lying, cheating, stealing, deceiving individuals are in our country and we’re sitting here and watching the world pass by, people being bombed, and it’s about time that we have an intifada in this country that changes fundamentally the political dynamics in here. And we know every – They’re gonna say some Palestinian being too radical — well, you haven’t seen radicalism yet.” U.C. Berkeley Lecturer Hatem Bazian fires up the crowd at an anti-war rally by calling for an American intifada

7) "That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks." -- Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa

8) “..And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq ‘We have our good days and our bad days.’ We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ‘This is one of our bad days’ and pull the trigger. Do you want to salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch.” — From a fund raising ad put out by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club

9) “Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.” — The Village Voice’s Michael Feingold, in a theater review of all places

10) “But the victim is also inaccurately being eulogized as a kind and loving religious man. Make no mistake, as disgusting and deservedly dead as the hate-filled fanatical Muslim killers were, Thalasinos was also a hate-filled bigot. Death can’t change that. But in the U.S., we don’t die for speaking our minds. Or we’re not supposed to anyway. Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security.” — Linda Stasi, New York Daily News,on a victim murdered in the San Bernadino terrorist attack

11) “Cheney deserves same final end he gave Saddam. Hope there are cell cams.” — Rep. Chuck Kruger (D-Thomaston)

12) “If I had my way, I would see Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell strapped down to electric chairs and lit up like Christmas trees. The better to light the way for American Democracy and American Freedom!” — Democratic Talk Radio’s Stephen Crockett

13) “May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases.” — Allan Brauer, the communications chair of the Democratic Party of Sacramento County to Ted Cruz staffer Amanda Carpenter

14) “Violence solves nothing. I want a rhino to f*ck @SpeakerRyan to death with its horn because it's FUNNY, not because he's a #GOPmurderbro.” – Jos Whedon

15) “I hope Roger Ailes dies slow, painful, and soon. The evil that man has done to the American tapestry is unprecedented for an individual.” — Think Progress editor Alan Pyke

16) “But, you know, the NRA members are the current incarnation of the brownshirts from Germany back in the early ’30s, late ’20s, early ’30s. Now, of course, there came the Night of the Long Knives when the brownshirts were slaughtered and dumped in the nearest ditches when the power structure finally got tired of them. So I look forward to that day.” — Mike Malloy

17) "Or pick up a baseball bat and take out every f*cking republican and independent I see. #f*cktrump, #f*cktheGOP, #f*ckstraightwhiteamerica, #f*ckyourprivilege." -- Orange is the New Black star Lea DeLaria responding to a meme about using music to deal with violence

18) “I wish they (Republicans) were all f*cking dead!” — Dan Savage

19) “Sarah Palin needs to have her hair shaved off to a buzz cut, get headf*cked by a big veiny, ashy, black d*ck then be locked in a cupboard.” — Azealia Banks advocates raping Sarah Palin over a fake news story

20)” Yes, I’m angry. Yes, I’m outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House, but I know that this won’t change anything." -- Madonna

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Hamburg, Germany, July. As world leaders gather for the G20 summit, far-left “anti-fascist” (antifa) rioters set fire to cars and property, terrorize residents and injure more than 200 police officers attempting to keep the peace. Did you miss it? CNN’s initial reports referred to the “protesters” as “eclectic” and “peaceful.”

But you need not cross the shining seas to experience violence, destruction of property and a general dismantling of liberal values from the political left. You could simply visit America’s elite college campuses like Yale or Middlebury or Berkeley, where tomorrow’s leaders attempt to shut down conservative voices with protest or riots. At Middlebury, rioting students landed liberal professor Allison Stanger in a neck brace for the crime of defending a conservative academic’s right to speak. At Berkeley, mobs of students created a “war zone” ahead of a planned visit from conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, injuring Trump supporters and causing $100,000 in damages.

Or head to Portland, Ore., one of the most liberal cities in the nation in the heart of the progressive Pacific Northwest, which this month Politico labeled “America’s Most Politically Violent City.” The progressive paradise —where Republicans are virtually an extinct species — has witnessed millions in damages attributed to the same types of anti-fascists-in-name-only that kept Hamburg residents paralyzed in fear this month. A “counter-protest” to a planned pro-Trump rally landed 14 antifa in jail for attacking the police with explosives and bricks.

Witness the blood-soaked congressional baseball field in Alexandria, Va., site of the June attack on U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., and other Republicans batting up for their annual bipartisan game. James Hodgkinson, a “fervent supporter of progressive politics,” showed up to the field with a rifle, a handgun and a hit list of Republicans. As Scalise fought for his life, MSNBC host Joy Reid felt conflicted: The attempted assassination was a “delicate thing” because of Scalise’s conservative views like opposition to gay marriage. “Are we required in a moral sense to put that aside in the moment?” she wondered. Yes, Joy, you are. The shooting of a mainstream, congressional Republican leader is reprehensible, and in no way justifiable.)

Now cross the Potomac and visit the halls of Congress, where Democratic lawmakers have accused Republicans of murder for supporting an overhaul to the spiraling, ruined Obamacare program, which by next year will leave dozens of counties without a single option for insurance. Reasonable people can disagree about how much our Medicaid program should grow without comparing the Republican bill to 9/11, as Sen. Bernie Sanders, the independent from Vermont, did recently. Or saying the health care bill is paid for with “blood money” of dead Americans, as Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., tweeted shortly after the Scalise attack. If our sitting senators don’t act more responsibly, who will?

Instead of retweeting, liberals who care about preserving our political system should be outraged that these are the standard-bearers of their party.

Nobody is directly responsible for a shooting except the shooter, and nobody throws a brick except the person who picks it up. No side has a monopoly on political violence. There are loonies at the fringes of every political movement — mentally ill, perturbed and paranoid — who can be stirred toward violence or dissuaded from it.

But when we have Democratic senators accusing political opponents of murder, when our college campuses descend into assault zones for conservative speakers (or those who defend them), when our major cities become playgrounds for far-left rioters and the news media gloss over it, we move toward a more violent and fractured society, not a safer one.

If gay people were pouring into bars and punching straight people, I as a gay man would speak out. If Jews were propagating terror in the name of our religion, I would condemn it vociferously. And when violence has come from the conservative side, I don’t hesitate to stand against it. But it’s not.

There have been no right-wing groups storming campuses and flinging feces at speakers we don’t like; no tea party mobs destroying property, assaulting police officers, and paralyzing our major cities; and no Republican senators calling their colleagues murderers just weeks after a political assassination attempt.

From Portland to New Haven to Washington, the violence we’re witnessing is largely a product of the hard left, and the reaction from mainstream liberals — mostly silence, dismissiveness, equivocation — means it will continue to flourish.

To move toward a less violent and hyper-charged society, we must be clearheaded about violence where we see it, and not avoid the subject. We must condemn it without conditions.

If you think Republicans are murderers, you’re an extremist. If you’re trading in that kind of rhetoric just to shut the other side up or raise a buck, you’re giving cover to extremists. And if you object to political violence but fail to speak out, your weakness is causing our society to fracture.

It’s time for liberal America to speak out against violence and the rhetoric that incites it.

[which is really hard to do when their position is that "it isn't rampant"]

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


You think MM or any of the other usual suspects would dismiss all of that if it the other way around?

Or would it be the end of the world (killer Nazi Russians everywhere etc)

Antifa are today's Democrat party Brownshirts, whereas the KKK was yesterday's Democrat Party Brownshirts

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
You think MM or any of the other usual suspects would dismiss all of that if it the other way around?

Or would it be the end of the world (killer Nazi Russians everywhere etc)

Antifa are today's Democrat party Brownshirts, whereas the KKK was yesterday's Democrat Party Brownshirts

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Recently on HBO’s “Real Time,” Bill Maher had this to say about the recent attack on Republican legislators: “We would never really think this would happen on the left. We think of the right as the people who pick up guns and do crazy things like this.”

And that’s just what they think. Liberals are peaceful and conservatives are violent. Even those who take pride in their political incorrectness repeat it. But you don’t have to be an American historian to know how little it holds up to the facts.

Every year on the anniversary of JFK’s assassination, media people talk about right-wingers in Dallas. But the real shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald, was a Soviet sympathizer. And Robert Kennedy’s killer was a Palestinian radical.

Last year at the Super Bowl, America watched Beyonce’s half-time tribute to the Black Panthers, who loved their guns as much as any NRA fanatic, and used them enthusiastically.

The media did everything they could to make us forget about former President Barack Obama’s friendship with fellow Chicagoans Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, both members of the bomb-wielding Weather Underground. This month’s Puerto Rican Day Parade controversy resurrected the 1970s leftist terrorist group the FALN. Today we have the Antifa, whose black mask image has become an emblem of America 2017.

And just last month, Obama appeared on video at the Songwriters Hall of Fame to help induct Jay-Z, who once wrote these lines in his song “Money, Cash, Hoes:”

"Money cash hoes money cash chicks what

"Sex murder and mayhem romance for the street

"Only wife of mines is a life of crime ..."

“Jay, you have been inspiring,” Obama said, but he didn’t mention how the millions of young men who’ve listened to Jay-Z and other rappers have been affected by lyrics such as: “Now if I kill you I probably do ten in the box/Come down on appeal then I’m killin’ your pops” (“Reservoir Dogs”).

It takes a strange act of the mind to overlook leftist violence in the American present and recent past. It’s as if attributing deep hate to right-leaning people was a drug. An obvious addict is Bill Moyers, the former LBJ operative who’s made a career out of sanctimonious exposes of conservative wrath. A few years ago, he spoke of how “Conservative Talk Radio Incites Domestic Terrorism & Hate” and last year during the campaign he warned:

“Trump and his ilk would sweep the promise of America into the dustbin of history unless they are exposed now to the disinfectant of sunlight, the cleansing torch of truth. Nothing else can save us from the dark age of unreason that would arrive with the triumph of Donald Trump.”

Whether it’s real (the softball shooter) or make-believe (Kathy Griffin), liberal violence in contemporary America is a fact. It would seem to be a natural focus for Moyers’ campaign against political hatred. But at his web site one can only find brief notices of the shooting in Alexandria, Va., that emphasize the bipartisan nature of wrath in the United States, citing another story on “potential incitement of political violence by Democrats and Republicans, the right and the left,” as well as a population research finding that “Republicans and Democrats were indistinguishable in their support for political violence.”

This all sounds like a cross-political appeal to reason, but in truth, it’s an effective way to push the liberal-peace and conservative-violence meme. When a lunatic with right-wing opinions goes on a rampage, it says something about the essence of conservatism. When a lunatic with left-wing opinions acts, it summons forth bipartisan expressions of civility.

Conservative hate is conservative, but liberal hate isn’t liberal at all.

Republicans and conservatives should recognize the across-the-divide call for unity as a hustle. The next time a right-wing crazy picks up his gun, the one-sided denunciations of conservative hate will come once more. Liberals pay themselves a compliment when they attribute vice to their adversaries, and they double down on back-patting when they (putatively) rise above politics after one of their own commits violence. Conservatives shouldn’t help them do it.

They should instead proclaim that liberalism circa 2017 is not “give peace a chance.”

It has a malicious streak, and too many liberals don’t just despise President Trump and everyone who voted for him, but also take pleasure in their spite.